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progree

(10,909 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:13 AM Dec 2015

Texas extends National Guard order amid new border crossings

Last edited Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republican Gov. Greg Abbott ordered Texas National Guard troops on Tuesday to remain at the Mexico border, extending again a mission that began in 2014 when unaccompanied children started pouring into the country and that will continue amid another wave of arrivals.

As many as 1,000 armed troops patrolled the Rio Grande Valley at the height of what the White House once called a "humanitarian crisis" of children showing up at the Texas border. Military officials who previously refused to publicly state an end date on the deployment said after Abbott's announcement that December was supposed to have been the end of a nearly 18-month mission.

Neither Abbott nor the Texas National Guard would say when troops would now go home. Lt. Col. Travis Walters also would not disclose how many troops would remain, but said no new troops would be deployed.

Abbott issued the order in response to U.S. Border Patrol figures showing that more than 10,000 unaccompanied children crossed into the U.S. in October and November, double the number of crossings in the same two months of last year. The increase has already prompted federal officials to open two shelters in Texas and one in California.

"Texas will not sit idle in the face of this challenge," Abbott said. "We will not be victimized as a state by a federal government's apathetic response to border security."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/texas-extends-national-guard-order-amid-border-crossings-004028080.html



Glad that someone is keeping us safe from children ( *sarcasm* ). I thought the Texas National Guard was all tied up monitoring Jade Helm 14, last I heard.

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Texas extends National Guard order amid new border crossings (Original Post) progree Dec 2015 OP
Gov. Abbott, as Gov. Perry did loves to create crisis that do not exist. They are the most rladdi Dec 2015 #1
Please explain how "missing security laws" plays a part in this recent increase snappyturtle Dec 2015 #3
Ha. The legendarily tough, pistol-packin', rootin'-tootin', gun-shootin' Texans are afraid of Aristus Dec 2015 #2
I find your reply offensive. What is your state doing to help with the snappyturtle Dec 2015 #5
I'll tell you what we're NOT doing: stationing armed troops on the border Aristus Dec 2015 #7
OK....why don't you send some busses from Washington state down here to snappyturtle Dec 2015 #9
We get them bussed in all the time. Aristus Dec 2015 #10
My assumption is it is in reference to the allaged ISIS-related people arrested on the border MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #11
What a idiot rockfordfile Dec 2015 #4
What is it that you do't understand? Extra help at the border is needed once snappyturtle Dec 2015 #6
"Keeping us safe from children?" Who do you suggest to help place these kids snappyturtle Dec 2015 #8
I had no idea Perry and Abbott were compassionate conservatives on a humanitarian mission progree Dec 2015 #12
The Mexican foreign misitry should work on its end so children don't need to leave Mexico. snappyturtle Dec 2015 #13
Yup, all the Mexican Foreign Ministry has to do is snap its fingers progree Dec 2015 #14
This is even worse! Why doesn't the Mexican foreign ministry work with the central American snappyturtle Dec 2015 #15
I agree. Unless Mexico welcomes christx30 Dec 2015 #16
THANK YOU! NT snappyturtle Dec 2015 #17

rladdi

(581 posts)
1. Gov. Abbott, as Gov. Perry did loves to create crisis that do not exist. They are the most
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

extreme and radical of all the states. The people living in Texas don't understand that many security laws are missing from TX. How many Chemical plants need to blow up before the people understand there are no regulations.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
3. Please explain how "missing security laws" plays a part in this recent increase
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:58 PM
Dec 2015

in the number of undocumented and un-accompanied children crossing the border into TX. Thank you.

Aristus

(66,419 posts)
2. Ha. The legendarily tough, pistol-packin', rootin'-tootin', gun-shootin' Texans are afraid of
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:16 PM
Dec 2015

children.

Cold, hungry, frightened, defenseless children.



Go on and secede, Lone Star State. Or 'Sec-dee'. Or however you choose to misspell it.

Just rid us of your odious presence...

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
5. I find your reply offensive. What is your state doing to help with the
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:05 PM
Dec 2015

increasing numbers flooding across the border?

Surge of children on border; hundreds coming to North Texas

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/texas-news/2015/12/09/surge-children-border-hundreds-coming-north-texas/77066520

(WFAA covers several counties in the Dallas/Fort Worth area)

I'd hardly call these efforts fearful but rather, helpful.

Aristus

(66,419 posts)
7. I'll tell you what we're NOT doing: stationing armed troops on the border
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:11 PM
Dec 2015

to keep out people in need. Washington State has been at the forefront of nearly every refugee crisis in recent memory.

If Texas' current public image offends you, don't get angry with me. it's not my fault...

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
9. OK....why don't you send some busses from Washington state down here to
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

help with the influx. Has Washington state experienced 10,000 migrants (unexpected) this Fall? Are the Canadians flooding across your border? These kids are turning themselves in to the authorities. We're not threatening them with guns and arrests!! Instead we're finding them food and warm shelter and beds.

It doesn't make any difference what TX does...if it's TX it's wrong.

Aristus

(66,419 posts)
10. We get them bussed in all the time.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dec 2015

And if you're giving them food, shelter and beds, instead of threatening and intimidating them with guns, then it's all good.

It just doesn't seem that way in the halls of Texas government...

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
6. What is it that you do't understand? Extra help at the border is needed once
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:08 PM
Dec 2015

these minors cross over into TX. Should we just ignore them?

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
8. "Keeping us safe from children?" Who do you suggest to help place these kids
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:15 PM
Dec 2015

in a safe environment? If we did nada you'd complain about that.

progree

(10,909 posts)
12. I had no idea Perry and Abbott were compassionate conservatives on a humanitarian mission
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:33 PM
Dec 2015

Most Republican governors don't give a hoot about children, so I'm sorry if I was broad-brushing Govs. Perry and Abbott with the same brush. Now if it were fetuses crossing over, I don't doubt for a minute he would mobilize the entire state to save and nurture them. But children? It's really to save the children?

All I hear them talk about are "criminals" and "drug cartels" and "transnational gangs" and "border security". Sounds a lot like Donald Trump. Not at all like the Red Cross.

What do Latino groups say about this? I noticed this in the OP's link:

Across the border, the Mexican foreign ministry released a statement that criticized Abbott's decision and called for dealing with immigration from "an effective and humane perspective."


If they are really on a humanitarian mission, they should work on their PR, because it is selling very poorly outside of Freeperville. It comes across more like a Minutemen border operation. It doesn't help that they are associated in the public mind with monitoring Jade Helm 14, to make sure that the jackbooted federal thugs don't take over Texas.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
13. The Mexican foreign misitry should work on its end so children don't need to leave Mexico.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:24 PM
Dec 2015

What's more humane than transporting the children to a center where they will receive food, a place to sleep, and administrative efforts to locate relatives in the U.S.?

progree

(10,909 posts)
14. Yup, all the Mexican Foreign Ministry has to do is snap its fingers
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:52 PM
Dec 2015

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and all the economic and social problems in Mexico and Central America will be solved and we will no longer have illegal (or undocumented) immigration. By the way, those children are mostly from Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua escaping violence there.

Why again are Mexican or Latino groups condemning the Texas National Guard if they are being so helpful and humanitarian? And why is it being presented (other than by you) as all about keeping us safe from Mexican criminals? As then Gov. Perry said, "our citizens are under assault.”

I'm sure the Texas troopers do the right thing when they happen to see children. But running a humanitarian children rescue operation is not what they are there for, anymore than the Minutemen are (or were).




snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
15. This is even worse! Why doesn't the Mexican foreign ministry work with the central American
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:21 PM
Dec 2015

countries? These children get all the way through Mexico and Mexico does, obviously, nothing and then you criticize what fellow U.S. citizens do? These children are not arrested, pistol whipped and pushed back or forward to fend for themselves. We are under assault. This influx is like having ten thousand people show up on your doorstep, uninvited, for dinner. In your infinite wisdom, what SHOULD TX do? This IS a U.S. border. Schengen doesn't work here. All in all, I think we do pretty well.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
16. I agree. Unless Mexico welcomes
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:49 PM
Dec 2015

people at the Guatemala border with hot cocoa and teddy bears, they have nothing to say about anything we do here. Mexico needs to do more to help these kids, than to just kick them north, and say "It's your problem".

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