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riversedge

(70,259 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:46 PM Dec 2015

Hillary Clinton Unveils Plan to Stop Spread of ISIS

Source: nbcnews.com




Hillary Clinton Unveils Plan to Stop Spread of ISIS



by Monica Alba and Alex Seitz-Wald

MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. -...................

.............But some of her biggest applause lines came when Clinton directly connected terrorism and the need for gun control. Acknowledging that Republicans would disagree with her, Clinton said it was simple: "Terrorists use guns to kill Americans. I think we should make it harder for them from to do that."

Saying "the phrase 'active shooter' should not be one we have to teach our children," Clinton said, "It defies common sense that Republicans in Congress refuse to make it harder for potential terrorists to buy guns."



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Clinton Rolls Out Plan to Stop ISIS 4:05 Video

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Minneapolis has one of the largest Muslim populations in the country, especially refugees from Somalia. That's made it fertile ground for recruitment, with the tenth arrest of a Minnesota man planning to join ISIS occurring just last week. At least 22 young men left the Twin Cities area to join the Somali militant group Al Shabaab between 2007 and 2009.

Before the speech, Clinton met with local Muslim leaders, including the first Somali-American member of the Minneapolis City Council, where her campaign says she discussed efforts to combat radicalization. ..............

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-set-roll-out-plan-stop-spread-isis-n480376



A smack down for Ted Cruz was included:


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Clinton: "Promising to carpet bomb until the desert glows doesn't make you sound strong, it makes you sound like you're in over your heads."


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Hillary Clinton Unveils Plan to Stop Spread of ISIS (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2015 OP
She totally humiliated him misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #1
"Promising to carpet bomb until the desert glows doesn't make you sound strong... GummyBearz Dec 2015 #3
Wow. Thats some snarky shit! misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #5
Yes he is GummyBearz Dec 2015 #6
haaaha. No on changes the subject faster than misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #9
Oh goodness no, lets not change subjects or ignore points made GummyBearz Dec 2015 #24
It wasnt a point.....it was a derailment.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #27
Haven't We've Seen This Show Before? gordyfl Dec 2015 #10
Thats utter horseshit... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #28
Because She's A War Monger billhicks76 Dec 2015 #18
I've often found it odd Obama asked her to be Sec. of State rather than Sec. of Defense. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #34
Deals Were Made billhicks76 Dec 2015 #40
When she's not busy dodging sniper fire in Tuzla Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2015 #23
As a combat veteran Vietnam & Cambodia, with PTSD, I resent you daybranch Dec 2015 #25
"George W. Bush Was Right!" gordyfl Dec 2015 #2
So what is your plan? I am all ears. Hekate Dec 2015 #12
My Plan? gordyfl Dec 2015 #19
The phrase "George W. Bush was right." should never be uttered with children in the room. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #35
hillary: any war but the class war fbc Dec 2015 #4
Right on target. The class war is far more important than the impotent ISIL pricks. Bubzer Dec 2015 #15
Sorry Sec. Clinton madville Dec 2015 #7
I saw that on Maddow. Hillary is tough as nails. I think that's what scares the haters. Laser102 Dec 2015 #8
Hillary Will Never Win a Nobel Peace Prize gordyfl Dec 2015 #11
Scares the Hillary Haters here just as much. I want to know what THEIR plan is... Hekate Dec 2015 #13
"Hillary is Tough as Nails" gordyfl Dec 2015 #16
Bush was an ignoramus. Hillary is not. See the difference? Laser102 Dec 2015 #30
how about this - we keep the neo-cons out of office, starting with Hillary... whereisjustice Dec 2015 #14
Feeding The Fear billhicks76 Dec 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author gordyfl Dec 2015 #20
Stop the spread of ISIL? She can do that? Why not share her strategy w Obama and Generals now? Turn CO Blue Dec 2015 #21
Words. No plan. 840high Dec 2015 #22
Oh, well, if you want a *plan*... bvf Dec 2015 #26
.... 840high Dec 2015 #39
"Do what is right and necessary." Yeah, that's some plan. Scuba Dec 2015 #29
Right and necessary in whose judgement? Hers? Oh, hell no. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #32
Don't tell me... RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #31
They don't fail to see it, as you noted in your last sentence. Scuba Dec 2015 #33
Hillary vs FDR EndElectoral Dec 2015 #36
+1 ozone_man Dec 2015 #41
God our media sucks. jeff47 Dec 2015 #37
So, what was the plan to stop the spread of ISIS? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #38

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
1. She totally humiliated him
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:59 PM
Dec 2015

Clinton: "Promising to carpet bomb until the desert glows doesn't make you sound strong, it makes you sound like you're in over your heads." 

Haaaahaaaha..
Sec of State Hillary Clinton just flicked that one right off her shoulder.
God they're dumb.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
3. "Promising to carpet bomb until the desert glows doesn't make you sound strong...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:26 PM
Dec 2015

it makes you sound like you're in over your heads."

Wonder why she didn't say that when Bush asked congress for the power to go bomb Iraq... back then she was all like "hell yea lets do this shit! I vote yes!" Then the meddling with Qaddafi, aka "we came we saw he died", then the destabilization of Syria via force...

And now she's like "Hey I am smarter than you on this"... too bad the history doesn't suggest so. Carpet bombing until the desert glows has been her policy since her vote on the Iraq War Resolution.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
10. Haven't We've Seen This Show Before?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:51 PM
Dec 2015

Yeah, "Shock and Awe", she was all for it.

We used to say John McCain never knew a war he didn't like. Looks like he's got some competition.



 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
28. Thats utter horseshit...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:13 AM
Dec 2015

She wasn't President.....

Something tells me there are alot of George W Bush fans hanging around DU tonight because of the piss poor debate...

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
34. I've often found it odd Obama asked her to be Sec. of State rather than Sec. of Defense.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

She has a rather hawkish approach in action.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
40. Deals Were Made
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:56 AM
Dec 2015

Laugh it off if you want but I live in the real world. When he and her met in Europe when the tide was turning towards Obama I bet the Wall St power brokers and National Security establishment told them how it was gonna go. Deals were made. I often wonder given all Obamas flip flops we forgot about if he was blackmailed by them. Who knows...there's embarrassing info on every American in those call log databases now.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
25. As a combat veteran Vietnam & Cambodia, with PTSD, I resent you
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:32 AM
Dec 2015

attacking our brave sister. No one should be blamed for mental illness like PTSD except the oligarchy and their political servants who perpetuate these wars for economic gain. Oops, that leads back to Hillary again. Sorry Hillary fans, I just cannot force myself to unsee what I have seen, How do you do it?

gordyfl

(598 posts)
2. "George W. Bush Was Right!"
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:22 PM
Dec 2015

Some more of her speech...

"We are in it for the long haul and we will stand taller and stronger than they could possibly imagine."

(Like 13 years is not a long haul?)

Clinton acknowledged that Americans have a right to be fearful in this climate.

(Fear, fear, and more fear.)

She has repeatedly said that the fight against ISIS needs to take place in the air, on the ground, and in cyberspace.

(The war profiteers are loving it!)

The Democratic presidential frontrunner invoked an unlikely figure to make the point. "George W. Bush was right," she said, referring to his warning just says after the September 11 terror attack against vilifying Muslim-Americans.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
19. My Plan?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:28 PM
Dec 2015

I plan not to lead my country down a dangerous and wasteful path by NOT voting for Hillary.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
15. Right on target. The class war is far more important than the impotent ISIL pricks.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:04 PM
Dec 2015

The 1% has been bleeding this country down... the less living-wage work there is to go around, the more violence and discontent we'll have in our country... ISIL wont have to lift a finger.

madville

(7,412 posts)
7. Sorry Sec. Clinton
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:42 PM
Dec 2015

I don't share your love for GWB's terror watch and no-fly lists. More of a due process sort of person myself.

Laser102

(816 posts)
8. I saw that on Maddow. Hillary is tough as nails. I think that's what scares the haters.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:44 PM
Dec 2015

I can't wait until she's in the White House.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
11. Hillary Will Never Win a Nobel Peace Prize
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:56 PM
Dec 2015

Four, or worse yet, eight more years of Bush war policies. Yikes!

Hekate

(90,737 posts)
13. Scares the Hillary Haters here just as much. I want to know what THEIR plan is...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:59 PM
Dec 2015

I still have not heard and it's been months.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
16. "Hillary is Tough as Nails"
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:12 PM
Dec 2015

Who else "Tough as nails"?

George H. Bush suggested that Cheney may even have been pushed toward a harder line by his conservative wife and daughter, Liz and Lynne.

"You know, I've concluded that Lynne Cheney is a lot of the eminence grise here ... tough as nails, driving," Bush is quoted as saying.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/04/exclusive-hw-bush-jabs-at-cheney-rumsfeld-in-new-book.html

Laser102

(816 posts)
30. Bush was an ignoramus. Hillary is not. See the difference?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:55 AM
Dec 2015

The term tough as nails has been used by a great many people. Even the totally bat crap crazy have borrowed it. However used in the context of Hilary, it means she has more grit than most of her challengers, and will no doubt kick their collective asses. Wait for it.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
21. Stop the spread of ISIL? She can do that? Why not share her strategy w Obama and Generals now?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:04 AM
Dec 2015


Hillary has a plan stop the spread of ISIL?

We have a Commander in Chief NOW. He has access to all kinds of intel that she does not. We have generals and the Joint Chiefs NOW. Whatever she WILL be, that is a VERY long time from now.

Refugees' lives are on the line now. There is a horrible civil war now. Those lunatics are torturing and beheading human beings NOW.

She and her all-knowing advisers are more than welcome to get on the phone with Obama this second -- IF she really had anything to offer -- because we have 12 whole months of ISIL to deal with in the meantime. We have the French, allies, the UN and the entire western world working on that same problem now - how to stop ISIL, how to defeat ISIL.

Regardless of her intentions here, whether to promote her own toughness or to stomp on Cruz or whoever, this wound up being an insult to Barack Obama.

It was a not-too-subtle swipe at POTUS and his current strategy, and a swipe at the world leaders already working to stop the spread of ISIL.

Seriously, this is very unwelcome and over-the-top rhetoric.


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I like Hillary. I like Bernie. I despise the cherry-picking and extreme partisan rhetoric.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
31. Don't tell me...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

More fear and bombing, and not a thing involving changing the hearts and minds of people.

We need less military, and more psychology. Every terrorist killed brings a martyr, who generates at least two more terrorists. Why they fail to see this is beyond me. Perhaps it is because they need to keep the military industrial complex going.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
36. Hillary vs FDR
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:23 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary - "Americans have a right to be fearful in this climate."

FDR - "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

ozone_man

(4,825 posts)
41. +1
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:42 AM
Dec 2015

Cultivating fear is a most effective tool for the military industrial complex. Our economy thrives on war.

Any serious plan to stop ISIS should start by getting Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar to stop supporting them. And the U.S. supplies so many of the weapons that wind up in the hands of ISIS. We can't be that inept, can we?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
37. God our media sucks.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:37 PM
Dec 2015

"Clinton reveals plan....and we give you almost no details about it!!!"

Unless her speech really did only contain vague platitudes.

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