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Omaha Steve

(99,671 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:52 PM Dec 2015

In NH, Bernie Sanders Advocates For Expanding Social Security

Source: NH Labor News

DOVER, N.H. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders told seniors at a community center here on Tuesday that more than half of workers nearing retirement have no savings so protecting Social Security is a top priority. He also called for reining in runaway prescription drug prices and stopping cuts to Medicare.

“Millions of seniors including many in New Hampshire and Vermont are struggling just to keep their heads above water,” Sanders told the crowd of 150 people, mostly seniors. “Not only will I oppose any efforts to cut Social Security benefits. What we are going to do is expand Social Security benefits.”Social Security is a key source of income for 42,000 people in New Hampshire whose benefits last year averaged about $15,000. Without Social Security, more than 41 percent of the elderly in New Hampshire would be living in poverty. With Social Security, the elderly poverty rate in New Hampshire is 5.7 percent.

Under current law, the payroll taxes which fund the retirement program are capped at $118,500. Under Sanders’ proposal, the wealthiest Americans who make more than $250,000 annually would pay the same share of their income as everyone else. Lifting the payroll tax cap would only raise taxes on the wealthiest 1.5 percent of Americans. The new revenue would expand Social Security benefits by an average of $65 a month, increase cost-of-living adjustments and boost benefits for low-income beneficiaries.

“Senior citizens with an income of less than $16,000 would see their benefits go up by more than $1,300 a year. Very low-income seniors who put in a lifetime of work would see their benefits go up even more,” Sanders said.

FULL story at link. NH Labor News is run by DUer Matt Murray.

About NH Labor News
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Read more: http://nhlabornews.com/2015/12/in-nh-bernie-sanders-advocates-for-expanding-social-security/



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In NH, Bernie Sanders Advocates For Expanding Social Security (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2015 OP
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #1
Bernie is WORKING on it - HIllary is still Triangulating on it Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #2
Still triangulating with Pete Peterson and other Wall Streeters. n/t DhhD Dec 2015 #9
You haven't been paying attention to the campaigns. George II Dec 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #18
Yes. George II Dec 2015 #19
George II says yes to a removed message Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #28
And the problem is? George II Dec 2015 #30
YOU approve of what a troll said Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #31
Well apparently you do too, since he was a Sanders supporter. George II Dec 2015 #32
I have a hard time believing you agreed with anything about Bernie (troll or not) Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #33
A couple of things: George II Dec 2015 #34
Absolutely right... as usual. AzDar Dec 2015 #3
Bernie's position on SS is crystal clear, unlike Hillary's double talking. Just CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #4
Martin O'Malley HAS a plan: elleng Dec 2015 #5
Another great plan Andy823 Dec 2015 #6
Yes, and that's why I posted it here, Andy. elleng Dec 2015 #8
Good plan! Especially long-term care. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #24
Right, and he recognizes this, elleng Dec 2015 #25
Interesting Sanders is using the same number Hillary has been using of $250,000. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #7
Yes, this "proposal" is basically restating what Clinton proposed a while ago.......... George II Dec 2015 #12
If he was going to "expand" Social Security he would make it available to more people.... George II Dec 2015 #11
Prove it for a refreshing change George II Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #13
Here you go Steve: George II Dec 2015 #14
Sanders Files Bill to Strengthen, Expand Social Security Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #15
That bill was introduced on March 12, 2015 - nine months ago. It has been read twice..... George II Dec 2015 #16
Remember Hillarycare? ;-) Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #17
Was Hillary Clinton in either house at the time? George II Dec 2015 #21
Wasn't her husband the leader of the party at the time? Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #20
Which Hillary Has Proposed a Long Time Ago? gordyfl Dec 2015 #29
K&R. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #23
Bottom line. Bernie just gets it. jalan48 Dec 2015 #26
And the criminal class that wrecked people's finances can help fund this Babel_17 Dec 2015 #27
How we pay for it: TBF Dec 2015 #35

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
2. Bernie is WORKING on it - HIllary is still Triangulating on it
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:56 PM
Dec 2015

Maybe she'll come around to this after a few more polls and a bit more triangulating.

Response to George II (Reply #10)

Omaha Steve

(99,671 posts)
33. I have a hard time believing you agreed with anything about Bernie (troll or not)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:42 AM
Dec 2015

I have wondered a few times about you. You didn't admit last night you were wrong. You get boxed in and don't answer. An example of each is in this thread.

You remember I changed a post just last week that involved you.

OS

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. A couple of things:
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:48 AM
Dec 2015

1. That troll sarcastically stated something to the effect, "oh right, Clinton wants to enhance SS". To that, I sarcastically stated "Yes".

If you consider that "agreeing" with something a Sanders supporter said, so be it.

2. You never stated where or how I was wrong. I think I've only stated opinion in this discussion. Reminds me of the old Gallagher joke about when he was in school, saying "I got an F on a test that asked my OPINION".

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
4. Bernie's position on SS is crystal clear, unlike Hillary's double talking. Just
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:04 PM
Dec 2015

one of the many reasons I support him.

elleng

(131,008 posts)
5. Martin O'Malley HAS a plan:
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:09 PM
Dec 2015

EXPAND SOCIAL SECURITY

Governor O’Malley has set a national goal of increasing the number of Americans with adequate retirement savings by 50 percent within two terms in office.

As the first and most important step toward meeting that goal, Governor O’Malley will expand Social Security benefits—not reduce them or undermine Social Security in any other way. Second, O’Malley will also make it easier for private-sector workers to invest in their retirement. He will put commonsense protections in place to prevent older Americans from losing the savings they already have. And to ensure that all families can afford to save for retirement in the first place, O’Malley will continue to put forward detailed policies to raise the wages of all workers.

EXPAND AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RETIREES

Social Security is one of our country’s greatest collective achievements. Since it was first implemented in 1935, Social Security has kept millions of elderly Americans out of poverty. Today—following the Great Recession, which decimated the retirement savings of millions of Americans—Social Security remains an especially critical lifeline for our parents and grandparents: without it, more than four in 10 Americans over 65 would be living in poverty.

We cannot ask seniors with modest savings to live on even less. Instead, we should expand Social Security so they can retire with the dignity they have earned over the course of their working lives.

As president, Governor O’Malley will:

Increase Social Security benefits for all retirees—both today’s and tomorrow’s. Governor O’Malley supports immediately boosting monthly benefits in a progressive manner for all Social Security was intended as a supplement to individual savings and pensions, but today, one in five married couples, and nearly half of unmarried individuals, rely almost exclusively on Social Security checks to survive. More than two-thirds of Americans near retirement will not have enough savings to maintain their current standard of living.
Strengthen Social Security’s long-term fiscal outlook. The solvency of Social Security is not in crisis: Social Security has adequate funds to pay full benefits through 2034. But to pay for expanded benefits, Governor O’Malley supports lifting the cap on the payroll tax for workers earning more than $250,000.In addition, Congress should implement policies to lift the wages of all workers, which will make meaningful contributions to Social Security’s long-term balance sheet. This includes raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour and enacting comprehensive immigration reform.
Ensure Social Security benefits are sufficient to keep retirees out of poverty. The immediate future is dire for many Americans nearing retirement: one in five Americans has no retirement savings at all. To keep seniors out of poverty, Governor O’Malley supports increasing the special minimum social security benefit to 125 percent of the poverty line for Americans who have worked at least 30 years.
Increase Social Security benefits for minimum wage- and lower-income workers. As wealth inequality continues to widen and traditional middle class jobs prove harder to come by, Governor O’Malley supports adjusting “bend points” in the formula to give minimum-wage and lower- and middle-income workers more financial security.
Prevent benefits from eroding over time. Governor O’Malley supports using the Consumer Price Index for the Elderly (CPI-E) instead of the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners (CPI-W) to determine Social Security’s cost-of-living adjustments. The CPI-E provides a more accurate reflection of the higher cost of living for retirees than the current measure, which focuses on younger workers. Using the CPI-E will ensure that benefits do not erode for future generations of retirees.
Reform Social Security to support, rather than penalize, caregiving. Governor O’Malley supports providing up to five years of “caregiver credits” that would increase the 35-year wage base for those who spend an extended period of time providing full-time care for children, elderly parents, or other dependents. In practice, current methods of calculating benefits penalize workers, most often women, who take extended time off to care for their families.
Reject efforts to raise the Social Security retirement age. Governor O’Malley believes that raising the retirement age is a back-door way to cut benefits for lower-income workers. It harms these workers in two ways: by forcing them to delay retirement in jobs that are often physically difficult, and by reducing lifetime payouts compared to wealthier retirees, who live five years longer on average than their lower-income counterparts.
CREATE SIMPLE, STREAMLINED RETIREMENT SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES

With the days of defined benefit plans long past, millions of hardworking Americans lack adequate savings to support their standards of living when they retire. Nearly one in three Americans has no retirement savings, rising to one in two for Americans under the age of 30. Current investment vehicles such as defined contribution plans and IRAs have been grossly inadequate and underutilized for preparing most working Americans for comfortable retirements.

As president, Governor O’Malley will:

Dramatically expand access to employer-based retirement plans. Half of all workers do not have access to a retirement plan. Among part-time and low-income workers, roughly seven in 10 lack an employer-based retirement option. Governor O’Malley would require employers with more than 10 employees to process an automatic employee contribution to an IRA for all employees, at a level determined by the employee (who would have the option to opt out).
Raise wages so all workers can afford to save. Since millions of hardworking Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck and struggle to save for retirement, raising the minimum wage and other wage policies are also critical to ensuring that today’s workers can retire with dignity and security in the future.
PROTECT SENIORS FROM RISKS TO THEIR FINANCIAL SECURITY

Older Americans face increased financial risks that threaten their ability to retire with dignity. Every day, unscrupulous lenders and scam artists attempt to separate seniors from their lifelong earnings. Republicans in Congress bent on slashing budgets attempt to undermine Social Security and other vital programs. And a growing number of aging Americans who need quality long-term care cannot afford it.

Implementing measures to better protect seniors from these threats to their financial security will help provide a stronger retirement firewall for millions of Americans.

As president, Governor O’Malley will:

Reject efforts to privatize Social Security. Governor O’Malley views proposals to privatize Social Security for what they are—a massive benefits cut that will gut Social Security, add to the federal debt, and leave future generations without the critical protections Social Security has provided for decades.
Increase penalties for those who defraud our seniors. Older Americans are often targets for financial scams and exploitation, at an estimated cost of nearly $3 billion a year. The vast majority of frauds go unreported. Governor O’Malley will advocate for policies to protect our seniors from financial fraud, including laws to increase penalties for the financial exploitation of older Americans, laws to allow financial advisors to refuse or delay transactions where clients are being defrauded or exploited, programs to better identify and report financial exploitation among older Americans, and increased investment in prosecutors and advocates to go after elderly abuse.
Fully implement the fiduciary rule. Under existing retirement advice rules, some brokers and financial advisers are allowed to sell Americans products even if they know they are poor investments. This conflict of interest, where advisers put their own bottom lines before helping their clients, costs workers saving for retirement $17 billion every year. President Obama has proposed a critical and commonsense rule to require those who give financial advice to put their clients’ interests first. Governor O’Malley will fully enforce this important fiduciary standard, protecting the retirement savings of millions of Americans and creating a level playing field for the many investment advisers who already act in their customers’ best interests.
Make affordable, high-quality long-term care a national priority. Americans’ longer lifespans are outpacing our ability to provide quality and affordable long-term care. Although seven out of 10 Americans will need home care at some point in their lives, many Americans and their families struggle to afford it. Nine out of 10 people who provide long-term care are women, while home care workers are underpaid, overworked, and lack important benefits and protections.As baby boomers age, now is the time to move forward, working with the private sector, to develop an efficient, affordable, and high-quality system to provide a diverse range of long-term care services for our seniors. Governor O’Malley will lay out a comprehensive plan for reforming long-term care and supporting caregivers in the coming weeks and months.

https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/expanding-social-security/

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
6. Another great plan
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:19 PM
Dec 2015

I wish more people would take the time to check O'Malley's plans out. He has more detail than any of the other candidates, and his plans make sense.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. Good plan! Especially long-term care.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:20 PM
Dec 2015

We have checked into insurance for long-term care. Far too expensive at our ages.

It's terribly expensive. Who wants to inflict such a cost on their children? And some of the cheaper facilities are just awful.

Used to be people lived in big houses and owned property. Women stayed at home and cared not only for their children, but for their aging parents. That is not possible in most families today.

So we have a new problem that requires new solutions.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Interesting Sanders is using the same number Hillary has been using of $250,000.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:20 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:44 PM - Edit history (1)

There will probably be some more changes necessary in order to provide for the young people currently are paying.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Yes, this "proposal" is basically restating what Clinton proposed a while ago..........
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:36 PM
Dec 2015

........and taking credit for it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. If he was going to "expand" Social Security he would make it available to more people....
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

....which he's not proposing to do.

His proposal would "enhance" Social Security, which Hillary Clinton has proposed long ago.

He's still following.

Omaha Steve

(99,671 posts)
13. Prove it for a refreshing change George II
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:45 PM
Dec 2015

No link. Just empty text.

And I'll add that how many times since Hillary announced has she "evolved" to the left thanks to Bernie?

OS

Omaha Steve

(99,671 posts)
15. Sanders Files Bill to Strengthen, Expand Social Security
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:54 PM
Dec 2015

Seems you can't find Bernie info, so here you go.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-calls-on-congress-to-strengthen-and-expand-social-security

Thursday, March 12, 2015
WASHINGTON, March 12 – As boxes of petitions signed by 2 million Americans were hauled into the Capitol today, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) introduced legislation to expand benefits and strengthen the retirement program for generations to come.

The Social Security Expansion Act was filed on the same day Sanders and other senators received the petitions gathered by the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare.

“Social Security is the most successful government program in our nation's history. Through good times and bad, Social Security has paid out every benefit owed to every eligible American,” Sanders said. “The most effective way to strengthen Social Security for the future is to eliminate the cap on the payroll tax on all income above $250,000 so millionaires and billionaires pay the same share as everyone else.”

Sanders’ measure would make the wealthiest Americans pay their fair share. Under current law, the amount of income subject to the payroll tax is capped at $118,500. That means someone making millions of dollars a year pays the same amount in payroll taxes as some making $118,500 a year. The legislation would subject all income over $250,000 to the payroll tax. Doing so would impact only the top 1.5 percent of wage earners, the Center for Economic Policy Research has estimated.

FULL text at link

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. That bill was introduced on March 12, 2015 - nine months ago. It has been read twice.....
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:04 PM
Dec 2015

....and referred to the Committee on Finance. Nothing else has happened since March.

That's a perfect example of Sanders' effectiveness.

Omaha Steve

(99,671 posts)
22. Wasn't her husband the leader of the party at the time?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:57 PM
Dec 2015

With control of which houses?

George you still didn't admit above you were wrong on Bernie.

Response to George II (Reply #16)

gordyfl

(598 posts)
29. Which Hillary Has Proposed a Long Time Ago?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:39 AM
Dec 2015

This is from October 30, 2015.

MANCHESTER, N.H. – Drawing another distinction with Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton on Friday, Sen. Bernie Sanders told seniors here that he supports expanding Social Security benefits and raising the payroll tax cap on the program – two days after the former secretary of state declined to endorse a similar proposal in the first-in-the-nation primary state.

Clinton on Wednesday raised some eyebrows on the left during her own appearance in the Granite State when she did not categorically rule out Social Security benefit cuts or raising the retirement age. And she declined to endorse an across-the-board expansion of benefits, as favored by many progressives.

“If there were a way to [raise the retirement age] that would not penalize or punish laborers and factory workers and long distance truck drivers and people who really are ready for retirement at a much earlier age, I would consider it. But I have yet to find any recommendation that I would think would be suitable,” she said.

Clinton added that she would “look at raising the [payroll tax] cap,” but did not endorse it, saying she did not want to increase the tax burden on middle class families.

That led some progressive activists to wonder about Clinton’s plans for Social Security.

“We know exactly where Senator Sanders stands on Social Security, he has been a champion in the fight to protect and expand Social Security for years.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/dems-have-strong-disagreement-social-security-sanders-says

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
27. And the criminal class that wrecked people's finances can help fund this
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:45 PM
Dec 2015

Quid pro quo for no jail time, no confiscatory retribution, and no dissolution of their organizations.

TBF

(32,074 posts)
35. How we pay for it:
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:41 PM
Dec 2015

Tax ALL the income - not just the first $110K.

If that's not enough we'll look at defense costs. I personally don't think the US needs to use my tax dollars to build military installations around the world to protect the profits of multi-national corporations. They love private police forces and jails. Let them pay for it. Problem solved.

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