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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:19 PM Dec 2015

Amendment on Trump's Muslim ban splits GOP

Source: Politico

Senate Republicans split over a referendum on Donald Trump’s Muslim ban on Thursday, with four GOP conservatives voting against language aimed at preventing religious litmus tests for people entering the United States.

The non-binding amendment to an unrelated nuclear terrorism bill was written by Senate Judiciary ranking member Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). The provision stated it is the sense of the Senate that the U.S. “must not bar individuals from entering into the United States based on their religion."

The amendment passed with significant GOP support, but not before internal Republican schisms on Trump emerged.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who speaks to Trump on occasion, called Leahy’s proposal “radical” and railed against it for about 30 minutes. He was joined in dissent by Republican Sens. David Vitter of Alabama, Ted Cruz of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-muslim-ban-gop-congress-216645#ixzz3twn6BFeK

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-muslim-ban-gop-congress-216645

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Amendment on Trump's Muslim ban splits GOP (Original Post) jpak Dec 2015 OP
David Vitter is from Louisiana, not Alabama Reter Dec 2015 #1
Same way they got the bit wrong about how these guys are "conservatives"... beerandjesus Dec 2015 #3
They're not nihilists, either. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #5
Remember Politico Grimelle Dec 2015 #9
Not just radical HassleCat Dec 2015 #2
Regressives not Conservatives sanatanadharma Dec 2015 #4
This is a very valid point. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #6
Is anyone else getting the impression that Ryan has stopped the so-called Hastert rule? hedda_foil Dec 2015 #7
This was the Senate, not the House. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #8
Nope. It's the House. Hastert is a former Speaker of the House. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #10
Yes, Hastert was Speaker but THIS was a non-binding amendment to a Senate bill. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #11

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
3. Same way they got the bit wrong about how these guys are "conservatives"...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:47 PM
Dec 2015

....as opposed to radical nihilists, which is what they really are.


For better or worse, all the true conservatives are in the Democratic party now. The Republicans haven't said or done anything conservative since 1994.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
5. They're not nihilists, either.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015

They believe in only their version of events and find them meaningful, no matter how outside the realm of reality those events are conceived.

I'll take a nihilist any day over a what passes for conservative.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Not just radical
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:36 PM
Dec 2015

Dangerously radical! Anyone who proposes upholding our constitution and honoring civil rights should be deported, along with his Mooze-Lim buddies. Except for the 2nd Amendment, of course.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
4. Regressives not Conservatives
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:03 PM
Dec 2015

The conservative movement to maintain the status-quo, despite the clear insanity of some American behaviors (such as the anti-social gun rights movement), is near dead.

The truth is that the current opposition to progressive values is Regressive.

Republicans today want to regress America backwards by decades and centuries.

They are against abortion 1973, contraception 1965, voting rights 1965, equal education 1954, child labor laws early 20th century, Social security, unions 1930's, Relations with Muslim nations 1800

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
6. This is a very valid point.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:14 PM
Dec 2015

Yes, indeed, in terms of the French Revolution, the conservatives were, more or less, maintaining the status quo (post revolution). Reactionaries were dedicated to returning to the "Ancien Regime." I typically use the term "reactionary," but "regressive" as a counter to the progressive movement is a nice substitute.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
7. Is anyone else getting the impression that Ryan has stopped the so-called Hastert rule?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

Suddenly, the House seems to be passing a substantial amount of halfway decent legislation

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
11. Yes, Hastert was Speaker but THIS was a non-binding amendment to a Senate bill.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:03 AM
Dec 2015
Senate Republicans split over a referendum on Donald Trump’s Muslim ban on Thursday, with four GOP conservatives voting against language aimed at preventing religious litmus tests for people entering the United States.

The non-binding amendment to an unrelated nuclear terrorism bill was written by Senate Judiciary ranking member Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). The provision stated it is the sense of the Senate that the U.S. “must not bar individuals from entering into the United States based on their religion."

The Hastert rule applied to passing bills in the House. Hastert had no jurisdiction over Senate bills and neither does Ryan.
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