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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:42 PM Dec 2015

Republicans OK $14M land-transfer lawsuit, say Utah must regain sovereignty

Source: Salt Lake Tribune

The federal government has no constitutional authority to permanently retain millions of acres in Western states, latecomers to the federal union that have thus been relegated to "second-class" status instead of sovereigns on equal footing with the older states to the east of the 100th meridian.

That's the conclusion of a 145-page legal analysis submitted Wednesday to the Utah Legislature by a team of outside lawyers hired to weigh Utah's legal prospects in its public lands fight with the federal government. The team urged Utah to go to court, estimating the cost at $14 million.

... Citing the consultants' conclusions, the Utah Commission for the Stewardship of Public Lands on Wednesday voted to direct them to prepare a complaint asserting a claim to 31 million acres of public land. It would be left up to Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes to decide whether such a case would be filed, mostly likely as a petition for original jurisdiction before the U.S. Supreme Court.

The commission's Republican members, however, made it clear they support litigating the question, even though the consultants cautioned that the suit carries a stiff price tag and its course and outcome would be fraught with uncertainty.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/3287281-155/republicans-ok-14m-land-transfer-lawsuit-say

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Republicans OK $14M land-transfer lawsuit, say Utah must regain sovereignty (Original Post) Newsjock Dec 2015 OP
I smell ALEC/Koch influence ErikJ Dec 2015 #1
If this goes through and other states follow... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #2
Hopefully Reyes will have enough common sense to tell these idiots to buzz off. nt cstanleytech Dec 2015 #3
no, sadly, no he wont n/t vanamonde Dec 2015 #11
The 50 states model is a divide and conquer strategy. iemitsu Dec 2015 #4
I'm pretty sure the Supremacy Clause says, "suck it, Utah." sofa king Dec 2015 #5
All about recreating the State of Deseret. Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #6
They will spend a fortune for nothing. They can't regain what they never had. Shrike47 Dec 2015 #7
Did they have a claim to it? Downwinder Dec 2015 #8
^^^^This! Xolodno Dec 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Shrike47 Dec 2015 #10
How do you regain something you never had in the first place???? cstanleytech Dec 2015 #12
Maximum cost for minimum benefit Turbineguy Dec 2015 #13

Docreed2003

(16,868 posts)
2. If this goes through and other states follow...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:47 PM
Dec 2015

I fear that we will forever lose some of the most majestic land in the entire US. Development and resource utilization seems to be trumping preservation daily...

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
7. They will spend a fortune for nothing. They can't regain what they never had.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:21 AM
Dec 2015

They gave up any claim to it when they joined the Union.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
8. Did they have a claim to it?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:52 AM
Dec 2015

The land was captured from Mexico. Were there land grants like California and Texas or were the settlers just squatters?

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
9. ^^^^This!
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:16 AM
Dec 2015

It's a legal nightmare born from the US-Mexican (recognized government) war. On the US side......."we won, so suck it". On the Mexican side.....will never forget. US courts sided with...well....you know. And brought resentment.

Graffiti, wrote on a wall as I left Mexicali, "The invasion is on, Coca Cola, etc." They don't view things as them invading...but rather us imposing on them.

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