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Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:09 PM Dec 2015

Woman Charged With Making Bogus Threats Against Black Students At Kean University

Source: CBS

UNION, N.J. (CBSNewYork/AP) — A New Jersey woman has been charged with making fake threats against black students at Kean University last month.

Kayla-Simone McKelvey, 24, of Union Township faces one count of creating a false public alarm.

The Union County prosecutor’s office says McKelvey participated in a Nov. 17 rally on racial issues at Kean and then went to a computer station in a campus library and posted anonymous threats on Twitter against black students.

Read more: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/12/01/woman-charged-with-making-bogus-threats-against-black-students-at-kean-university/

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Woman Charged With Making Bogus Threats Against Black Students At Kean University (Original Post) Travis_0004 Dec 2015 OP
Pretty sick jberryhill Dec 2015 #1
This kind of stuff hurts everyone. Throw the book at her. 7962 Dec 2015 #2
well, certainly for being dumb enough to be traced - not on a computer, lady. hollysmom Dec 2015 #3
This one is hard to call MoggyMedley Dec 2015 #4
Faking death threats is no-harm no-foul? bunnies Dec 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #16
Luckily the police, court system, and average person sees the problem with that persons logic. trillion Dec 2015 #36
For the record for everyone, 'MoggyMedley' has been banned as a troll muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #47
I disagee Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #17
"To convict (an accused person) without a fair trial or on trumped-up charges." AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #21
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Incitement, threats, and things of that nature, are not constitutional rights. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #25
Constitutional right to make bomb and death threats? branford Dec 2015 #27
You're not going to get anyone to agree with "your" stance on this. PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #39
So bomb threats and death threats should be treated like jokes? trillion Dec 2015 #33
I don't think so rockfordfile Dec 2015 #35
Ummm, no... Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #7
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Source? trillion Dec 2015 #32
Apparently I missed another one. Several messages removed and name gone! 7962 Dec 2015 #45
Not quite how laws work. Demit Dec 2015 #8
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The law, when equally enforced, protects black people too. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #22
I'm pretty sure that person is playing up a caricature PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #40
I agree based on the colored people comment up above JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #42
MIRT was deliberating, apparently. Or perhaps they had a very busy day yesterday. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #51
I concur. alphafemale Dec 2015 #44
I'm sure you'd think the same if she was white falsely accusing blacks, right? 7962 Dec 2015 #12
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She is an idiot that will be charged with a felony. Ikonoklast Dec 2015 #15
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Your Poe mask is slipping. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #26
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #29
So POC should only be subject to laws they create by and for themselves? That's Apartheid Monk06 Dec 2015 #38
No one is trying to bully you JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #43
+1000 trillion Dec 2015 #31
Making racists threats is terrorizing people. But, I see you don't have a problem with that. trillion Dec 2015 #30
Are you serious? She needs a minimum of 10 years. She did the crime, she needs to learn that yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #34
How do you Snow Leopard Dec 2015 #9
She could be charged with terroristic threats The Wizard Dec 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #11
Double standard. 7962 Dec 2015 #13
The Chicago student who threatened to "kill the white people" was released to his MOM 7962 Dec 2015 #46
Incredibly bad idea. She truly hurt her cause. Darb Dec 2015 #14
These types of incidents are not that unusual. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #37
I've heard of people doing this before. On another site I used to hang on, a jewish guy made all trillion Dec 2015 #41
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What would be the significance either way? marble falls Dec 2015 #49
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7962

(11,841 posts)
2. This kind of stuff hurts everyone. Throw the book at her.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:26 PM
Dec 2015

And it happens. Just like the black guy they busted for burning black churches

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
3. well, certainly for being dumb enough to be traced - not on a computer, lady.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:40 PM
Dec 2015

have to use rubber gloves and paste letters cut out of a local newspaper.
sorry, just find people who make threats dumb in general. But more so on a computer, Like the person who thought that they could send me threats on a message board and it could not be traced back to them and they would not get banned from the board. DUH.

 

MoggyMedley

(19 posts)
4. This one is hard to call
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:56 PM
Dec 2015

She didn't do any actual damage to anything or anyone.
It would be better to just let it go.

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trillion

(1,859 posts)
36. Luckily the police, court system, and average person sees the problem with that persons logic.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:50 AM
Dec 2015

Death threats should always be taken seriously. Bomb threats are also against the law to make. Threatening any harm to anyone is against the law.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
6. I disagee
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 12:22 AM
Dec 2015

Making bomb threats and death threats should be cause for arrest, and she should be expelled from school.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. "To convict (an accused person) without a fair trial or on trumped-up charges."
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:11 AM
Dec 2015

I think you might want to substitute 'railroad' with some other verb.

If the allegation is true, of course. That shit ain't a joke. I wouldn't be laughing if it was a white male doing it to a PP clinic either.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
25. Incitement, threats, and things of that nature, are not constitutional rights.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:27 AM
Dec 2015

In fact, not only are they specifically exempt from 1st amendment protection, they are in fact, crimes. Doesn't matter the gender or color of the person that committed it.

If you think she flat out didn't do it, and was framed, that would be interesting, and should be pursued. The police, courts, etc, are not above fuckery when it comes to race. I don't see any reason to think she was falsely accused in this case, but I'd be willing to listen to evidence.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
27. Constitutional right to make bomb and death threats?
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:31 AM
Dec 2015

I must have missed that day in law school.

She should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for no other reason than as a deterrent against anyone else, regardless of race, from doing anything remotely similar in the future.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
33. So bomb threats and death threats should be treated like jokes?
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:41 AM
Dec 2015

Wow. Are you 8?

I used to work at a court house, and a few police departments, and a jail, and the people making bomb and death threats were arrested for good reason. I'm a systems engineer - not a cop. I worked for a very large city, in the capacity of keeping the servers up. We had lots of bomb and death threats, and so did the mayor (who's computers I also kept up.) The threats were never treated like jokes and they should never be.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. Ummm, no...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 12:29 AM
Dec 2015

All threats have to be treated as real, and the resources expended are the same in either case.

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Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. She is an idiot that will be charged with a felony.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:11 PM
Dec 2015

Anyone making terror threats needs to be arrested, period.

Would you respond the same way if someone called threatening to kill you and your family?

Think no damage would be done in that case, too? Do you think you wouldn't be living in fear of your life?

No damage, right?

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Monk06

(7,675 posts)
38. So POC should only be subject to laws they create by and for themselves? That's Apartheid
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:40 AM
Dec 2015

It was unacceptable for white South Africans to impose such a system on black South Africans.

Your advocacy of a separate POC judicial system is as immoral, self interested and racist as the South African model.

Your complaint about being attacked is a passive agressive strategy that is becoming very tiresome in the socalled debate on racism

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
34. Are you serious? She needs a minimum of 10 years. She did the crime, she needs to learn that
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:42 AM
Dec 2015

bullying and threats are not acceptable in this country or anywhere else for that matter.

The Wizard

(12,547 posts)
10. She could be charged with terroristic threats
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 12:52 AM
Dec 2015

if it can be proven people feared for their lives. It's a felony.

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7962

(11,841 posts)
46. The Chicago student who threatened to "kill the white people" was released to his MOM
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:49 AM
Dec 2015

and he's also being allowed to return to the school!! What the hell is up with THAT?
Something stinks with that case as well

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
14. Incredibly bad idea. She truly hurt her cause.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:57 AM
Dec 2015

This is all the racists need to write of EVERY SINGLE real death threat and threat of violence that will come down the pike.

Maybe she was set up (don't know how). Otherwise, it was incredibly damaging.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
37. These types of incidents are not that unusual.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:29 AM
Dec 2015


The woman NAACP activist who was white was also mailing herself death threats.

There is a sickness for attention or some other mental illness.

Rachel said she does not consider her biological parents her real parents. She said she is still focused on the threats she received in the mail.

A police report filed in March questions how hate mail ended up in the PO Box for the Spokane chapter of the NAACP. On Wednesday, the Spokane Police Department released an eleven page report into their findings thus far.

In March, Spokane NAACP President Rachel Dolezal claimed she found an envelope with pictures of lynchings and references to local cases concerning race.

The envelope containing the letter was found in the NAACP mailbox at the Rosewood Post Office along North Monroe.

However, investigators later noticed important marks missing from the package.

It was delivered to a post office box. But it did not have a date stamp or barcode according to an on-going police report by SPD.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/06/11/spokane-naacp-president-questions/71101474/
 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
41. I've heard of people doing this before. On another site I used to hang on, a jewish guy made all
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 04:11 AM
Dec 2015

kinds of threats to jews on the site and got caught and said it was to get attention to the persecution jews face.
I agree, it's a need to get attention as well as play the victim (when someone does this.) I'm perfectly aware there is real anti-semitism out there which is why threats should be taken seriously.

Glad they caught the person.

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