Fox & Friends‘ Doocy Defends Trump: ‘I Actually Remember’ Those Cheering Muslims

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Source: Mediaite

Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy defended Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump‘s claim that thousands of New Jersey Muslims celebrated on 9/11, saying that he knew people who saw it in person and that he saw it on television.

“I actually remember things like that,” Doocy insisted. “I remember, because I live one town away from one of the towns where, according to my neighbors, they saw it with their own two eyes, there were people celebrating.”


“I also remember there was video on television,” he said. “I don’t remember if it was from that town or from New Jersey. Nonetheless, Donald Trump says there are a lot of people out there who have verified the idea of his story.”

Doocy has a history of defending Trump’s more controversial statements. After Trump implied that John McCain wasn’t a war hero for being captured and tortured by the Viet Cong, Doocy responded by comparing Trump to a Navy SEAL for not backing down.

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-doocy-defends-trump-i-actually-remember-those-cheering-muslims/

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Just make shit up that flies in the face of all facts and evidence and, sooner or later, Murdoch and his "news" channel will back you up via the dumbest show on TV.

Naturally, Douchey can't name the town, say what channel it was on, gives names of his supposed friend-witnesses or provide video of Trump's imaginary "thousands and thousands" of imaginary celebrators.

But you know who did weigh in and say America "deserved" 9-11?

These two GOP convention keynoters:

[leftynyc]

9. Really?

Do you have video of these Israeli's CHEERING? I know there was one of some Israelis filming (and who the fuck wasn't filming that day?) but cheering? Celebrating? I'd like to see that video. What I can readily find is the only group I remember cheering and celebrating that day and they were the PALESTINIANS. Would you care to see that video?

[Fast Walker 52]

10. the Israelis were reported as cheering, but there is no video of it

There was some video shown on 9/11 of people celebrating in Palestine, but that was pure deception of people celebrating an unrelated event, i.e. it was propaganda.

[leftynyc]

16. I haven't heard it called

propaganda before. I have heard it referred to over and over again saying it was the only group that actually was celebrating. Do you have the story on that?

[Fast Walker 52]

51. there is a dissection of it here

https://kendoc911.wordpress.com/disinfo-palestinians-cheering-the-911-attacks/

Snopes.com says the Palestinians celebrating video is legit, but they always support the official media version of events. The thing is that this one clip, which shows maybe a dozen Palestinians "celebrating" seems to be the only evidence they were celebrating besides hearsay evidence. As far as I can tell, there's only this one clip, which was played over and over, to back up the claim.

[leftynyc]

53. I tend to believe snopes

But I would never tag ALL Palestinians with it. I remember far far more condemning 9/11 than those shown in that video. But I do think that is the video that trump remembers.

[LiberalArkie]

13. I don't even know, I just remember the news on CNN of it and of the white moving van.

What really stuck with me was that a few months before 9/11, some "Israeli Art Students" were arrested at the Little Rock, AR FBI office when they were found in the office area without clearance. They said they were art students trying to sell their art. I remember that from the local tv news reports.

When you try to find anything about it, it is all mixed in the conspiracy reports. It was in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette but not any more as all historic news is behind a paywall.

I did find the audio that I remember. But know how authentic the associated video is.

[leftynyc]

17. So no cheering Israelis

celebrating 9/11 even thought that was exactly what you posted. Got it.

[LiberalArkie]

18. I am so sorry I can not dredge up something that was on CNN & NBC at that time back in 2001.

But to help you, I will go back and delete the post. You can look up the term if you wish, but I know you will not.

[leftynyc]

19. I have looked it up

Every single time I've seen it posted here and elsewhere. I've never found anything like it so I politely asked you to provide it. Not my problem that you threw it out there the same exact way trump is doing with his nonsense.

[LiberalArkie]

20. It was broadcast by CNN but retracted. The moving van is a separate event.

There was also rumour that the footage of some Palestinians celebrating the attacks was stock footage of Palestinian reactions to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990.[36] This rumour was proven false shortly afterwards,[37] and CNN issued a statement to that effect.[38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_attacks


I think this is why Trump was referring to. I heard about the Israelis in a separate thing dealing with the moving van incident

[leftynyc]

22. I know many claims had to be retracted

and I understand things were very muddled that day as people were trying to catch up with what actually did happen (I remember hearing on the radio the Supreme Court building was bombed). But if we're going to trash trump for his false memories, I don't think it helps when we do the same so I'm asking anyone who has posted the same exact thing you did about cheering Israeli's to put up the proof - or we're no better than trump.

[LiberalArkie]

23. Try this link out. This is what was being talked about.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1

[leftynyc]

25. I've seen that link

and there is also nothing in there about cheering or celebrating Israelis (I assume you read your own link so you should already know this).

[LiberalArkie]

27. The cheering Palestinians was a mistake that CNN put out and retracted. The Celebrating

Israelis comes the the ABC news story of the report that the lady reported to the NJ police and men who were celebrating and filming the attack. She gave the license plate to the police and the pulled over the moving van with the Israelies in it. That is where I got my idea from. I think trump got his from was the retracted story from CNN.

That day I was working at a telephone office/data center and we were locking down the building so I only caught a few things here and there. So my first memories of the event would be different than that of someone who was able to follow the entire thing uninterrupted.

[leftynyc]

28. Uh - no

That woman who called said nothing about cheering or celebrating. She claims they didn't look "unhappy" - whatever the fuck that means. Read your own link.

[LiberalArkie]

60. Try this link out. This is what was being talked about.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/11/22/what-donald-trump-might-have-seen-on-911-hint-it-wasnt-cheering-arabs/

Snip

Here’s the thing. As the towers came down, some people indeed saw a group of five — not thousands, but five — Middle Eastern men clowning around and photographing themselves in front of the burning towers from the New Jersey waterfront. They weren’t Arabs, and they weren’t Muslims.

They were Israeli and Jewish – young men making asses of themselves, as some young men are wont to do. Perhaps not recognizing the import of what they were seeing.

How do I know this? I tracked one of their friends down to Jesus’ hometown, two months after the attack:

Nazareth, Israel — On the day after the world changed, Roy Barak and his partner were in an empty rental truck, eastbound on I-80 in northern Pennsylvania. The men were movers, near the end of a 16-hour deadhead run from Chicago to a chaotic New York.

Snip

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/11/22/what-donald-trump-might-have-seen-on-911-hint-it-wasnt-cheering-arabs/

[leftynyc]

61. So once again

I point out no cheering or celebrating. I know it pains many here but what trump is likely talking about are the Palestinians from the West Bank - perhaps one or two dozen - who actually WERE celebrating. To pretend NO Muslims were celebrating just makes the deniers look as bad as trump. One seeing things that aren't there and the other ignoring what was right in front of their faces - ON VIDEO.

[LiberalArkie]

62. I totally agree. At the time on TV there were "reports" of middle eastern

men cheering in NJ. This link was the result of the police investing the Report of middle eastern men celebrating in NJ. If you remember back then just about anything that hit the scanner was being broadcast.

I don't think Trump witnessed anything. But there were pictures on TV and during that event that made people have great leaps of faith as to who was responsible. But this is the part I remember, about the guys in the moving van jumping up and down video'ing each other with the WTC in the background. Why do people still think Iraqis crashed the planes? It was what they heard and it stuck with them.

Reuters says that there were no videos of Palestinians celebrating taken that day. But maybe a few days later or weeks later there was video of people celebrating "something" that he saw and made a mental connection.

But the moving van incident was the only thing I remembered. And that is what I have said all along. I just could not find a news story in the midst of all the 9/11 truther crap on the internet.

[leftynyc]

63. I'd have to look up that Reuters

story. I remember seeing it that day or the next day but it was a crazy time and I probably had my tv on for 4 days straight.

[Tempest]

30. The people who called police said the men on the van were cheering

They gave police descriptions of the van and when police pulled it over the men inside were Israelis.


http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

[leftynyc]

33. Uh - no

The ABC report says they were filming and didn't look unhappy - that's a far cry from cheering and celebrating. Your post doesn't have one link to anything resembling a valid source. What really happened, my ass.

[billhicks76]

36. Wrong

And DU has become so scared of Israel that you can't even intimate anything am Israeli could do that's unseemly. They were dancing around and celebrating. Some here even claim the whole incident never occurred and juried out comments about it here recently. Even though the Israelis arrested were interview on Israeli TV after they were held in US custody for months. Some idiots here flagged comments saying all made up conspiracy. Read the Jerusalem Post for yourself. Some jerk accused me of being anti-Semitic...so I'm anti-myself? We have our own dimwits here on DU just like republicans do.

[leftynyc]

38. Where is your evidence

they were dancing around and celebrating? There is NOTHING in that link that shows that. If we're going to trash trump for making up false memories, why are you allowing supposed liberals do the same thing? Spare me the whining about alerts - I had two comments alerted just today.

[billhicks76]

42. Not My Problem

I distinctly remember it. It's not made up. The eyewitness on CNN said they were celebrating and mistook them for Muslims. They were interviewed on TV in Israel and deny they were actually celebrating. They claimed they were just documenting the event. They spent two months in US custody over it. You can watch their interviews yourself.

[leftynyc]

43. So your evidence is

the same as Trump's. Got it.

[billhicks76]

44. Can You Read Or Are You Here To Just Disrupt ?

Trump said he saw Muslims celebrating. There was news footage of a very small few in the Middle East celebrating which is hardly surprising as we all have our fringe elements. But Trump conflated that with the initial reports of the 5 Israelis that were arrested. If he recalled they were Israeli he would've kept his mouth shut...kinda like you want us to do. So actually that makes YOU more like Trump not me. Do your own homework instead of bullying people here. There are many news stories about this in Israel and you can read and watch them yourself. The men that were arrested were held for a long time for a reason. The witness claims they were dancing around celebrating...they deny that part. People like you take it further saying they don't even exist and there wasn't even an incident which proves your total ignorance. You should probably give it a rest.

[leftynyc]

45. I didn't tell you to keep your mouth shut

or anything of the sort so your persecution complex is really your problem. Trump made a claim - he was asked for proof - over and over again and he still hasn't provided it. You made a claim, I asked for proof and you still haven't provided it. I never said it didn't exist (perhaps you're confusing me with another poster) so you can stuff that charge also. Perhaps it's you that should give it a rest as you seem very upset you're being asked for proof of a charge. Not my problem that you can't provide proof.

[billhicks76]

49. Two Separate Incidents

Trump obviously cannot provide proof because there isn't any. And he won't admit confusing himself because then he has to bring up Israelis. He would never do that...no republican would and most democrats too intimidated to. Social Security used to be called the Third Rail in politics but Israel has taken that prize since the late 90s terror attacks in their country. I lost my whole family to genocide but that doesn't make me blind, deaf and dumb. Honestly if youre too lazy I'll send you links later but I'm at work 14 hrs a day and don't have the time at this exact moment to indulge you. I watched the interviews myself in Israel years ago. And I also remember on CNN the initial report. But then again I also recall on CNN months before 911 the State Dept coordinating anti-aircraft missiles being set up around the tiny island of Genoa for the G8 Summit because they feared planes being used as kamikaze missions but someone that got flushed down the collective memory hole also and punctuated when Condi Rice told Congress they never imagined a scenario with planes being used as bombs. No wonder that snake refused get testimony be under oath.

[LanternWaste]

40. You will of course, provide relevant and objective evidence the people were in fact, celebrating and

You will of course, provide relevant and objective evidence the people were in fact, celebrating and cheering, yes? Else your emphatic statement of absolutism is, like on Fox News, merely another allegation.

[Tempest]

47. Witness statements to police when they called 911 to report them.

Got a problem with it, take it up with the police who relayed what they were told on the 911 calls.

[Tempest]

46. What part of "police said witnesses told them" don't you understand?

The people who called the police and gave their descriptions said it looked like they were celebrating.

If you have a problem with that take it up with the police. They're the ones who relayed what the witnesses told them.

[Raine1967]

31. this might give some more information:

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/11/22/what-donald-trump-might-have-seen-on-911-hint-it-wasnt-cheering-arabs/

They were Israeli and Jewish – young men making asses of themselves, as some young men are wont to do. Perhaps not recognizing the import of what they were seeing.

How do I know this? I tracked one of their friends down to Jesus’ hometown, two months after the attack:

he reprinted the article from 2001.

[leftynyc]

34. So we've gone from

Trump's idiotic assertion that thousands of NJ Muslims were cheering to 5 Israeli's acting like assholes. Have I got that right?

[Raine1967]

58. Yes.

That a few people ended up in jail for 2 months is still a reminder of the bush legacy.

[leftynyc]

59. I don't think we'll

ever see the end of the damage done during bush/dick's administration - not in my lifetime.

[olegramps]

15. The guy is nothing more than a damnable liar, just like everyone of FOX and Hate Radio.

[Archae]

2. And people wonder why I call "Fox And Friends" the bottom of the sewer...

[louis-t]

3. The clip I remember was not from the US.

It was a brief video of a small group of people somewhere in the middle east.

[mainstreetonce]

4. Palestinians

..

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

5. and hardly "thousands and thousands" of them

Didn't come close to happening in the mideast, let alone Jersey City.

[bluestateguy]

6. Yes

One town in Palestinian territory, there were some celebrations filmed.

[Fast Walker 52]

11. yes, but it has been claimed that the video was deceptive and wasn't showing people reacting to 9/11

https://kendoc911.wordpress.com/disinfo-palestinians-cheering-the-911-attacks/

[tclambert]

12. Maybe Trump and Doocy were in New Jersey when they saw video of cheering Palestinians in Gaza.

It's so easy to get confused. And if one person claims to remember it, others will begin to think they remember it, too. Dr. Elizabeth Loftus has done studies on the malleability of memory, especially as it relates to eyewitness testimony. She said memory isn't like a recording device, it's more like wikipedia--you can edit and alter your memories, and other people can alter your memories, too, through the power of suggestion.

Here's a 17 1/2 minute video of a TED talk she gave:

[randys1]

26. No, Trump knows he is lying, at least he knows by now that he is

telling a story about something that didnt happen.

Doocy is one of the worst examples of the human race.

[truthisfreedom]

7. And this is someone with access to ALL video footage from that time.

Show us the video, OR IT NEVER HAPPENED.

[arcane1]

8. Exactly, they are supposed to be a freakin' NEWS network, but the news escapes them.

Funny how that works.

[yellowcanine]

14. "according to my neighbors, they saw it with their own two eyes" Heh.

Not to mention my wife's Uncle Clarence! And Cousin Henry in Hoboken!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

21. No. No, you didn't, Steve. No you didn't.

[winstars]

24. Wait, I remember seeing Douchey turning tricks on 11th Ave on 9/12/11. And I saw it on TV too!!!

If I remember correctly, his specialty was orangutans. And I know lots of other people who saw it also...

This was of course, before he started turning tricks on 6th Ave for Faux News.

[jtuck004]

29. People in OKC "remember" muslims who didn't act right too. They even beat up a couple of Jordanian

nationals after the Federal Building was bombed.

'Course, the murdering coward in that case was about as culturally white as one could be here. So they messed that up too.

[riversedge]

32. heresay...

“I actually remember things like that,” Doocy insisted. “I remember, because I live one town away from one of the towns where, according to my neighbors, they saw it with their own two eyes, there were people celebrating.”

[KamaAina]

35. They got his name wrong again. It's "Douchey".

[LanternWaste]

39. Lot's of remembering, yet no valid, objective sources.

Lot's of remembering, yet no valid, objective sources. Inflated numbers, inflated decibels, inflated motives... Seems rather par for the course for Fox news and assorted idiots.

[hibbing]

41. "verified the idea of his story"

The language of that line just warps my mind.

Peace

[cannabis_flower]

48. Here's the thing...

What if there were? It's perhaps unsettling but it's not illegal to cheer at an act of terrorism, as long as you weren't involved in doing the terrorism.

Maybe he was remembering this story about a group of Israeli men after 9/11:


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885

[edgineered]

50. A large crowd had gathered and began cheering

as the rescue vehicles left the neighborhood station enroute to assist. At least that is how I remember things.

[Warren Stupidity]

52. Funny thing is that at this point they likely do remember it.

Which just goes to show how faulty and unreliable and scarily manipulable our memories are.

[Sunlei]

54. funny how tabloid rags create these ridiculous 'headline' 'breaking news'.

used to just be supermarket lines where you saw these stupid "headlines", fox-republican news, fucked-up online news.

[leftyladyfrommo]

55. Boy, I sure don't remember anything like that.

I remember just the opposite.

[Aria36]

56. Trump is a genius

He has this way of spinning urban legends & rumors to stoke FEAR. Hes telling ghost stories to spook. The public at a deep subconscious level. Where did he learn how to do this?

[Snow Leopard]

57. Iirc

It was Israelis cheering in NY, not Muslims. ( although I recall foreign Muslims cheering)

[rladdi]

64. Of course someone on Fox would agree and support Trump. Fox is the real messenger of LIES and

mis-information on cable news. Of course our laws protect those that lie, those that make threats, esp politicians, who are immune of any laws and the constitution.