Declaring 'new beginning,' EU and Turkey seal migrant deal

[Little Tich]

Source: Yahoo! News / Reuters

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Turkey promised to help stem the flow of migrants to Europe in return for cash, visas and renewed talks on joining the EU in a deal struck on Sunday that the Turkish prime minister called a "new beginning" for the uneasy neighbors.

Leaders of the European Union met Turkish premier Ahmet Davutoglu in Brussels on Sunday to finalize an agreement hammered out by diplomats over the past month, as Europeans struggle to limit the strain on their 28-nation bloc from taking in hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees.

A key element is 3 billion euros ($3.2 billion) in EU aid for the 2.2 million Syrians now in Turkey. The money is intended to raise their living standards and so persuade more of them to stay put rather than attempt perilous crossings to the EU via the Greek islands.

The final offer of "an initial" 3 billion euros represents a compromise between the EU, which offered that sum over two years, and Turkey, which wanted it every year. Now the money, as French President Francois Hollande said, will be paid out bit by bit as conditions are met, leaving the total payout unclear.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/eu-hopes-turkish-help-slow-migrants-summit-000950422.html

[iandhr]

1. How about we deal with Turkey's support for ISIS

[PosterChild]

5. What support for ISIS?

America has combat aircraft stationed in Turkey and is running sorties against isis from there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-agrees-to-allow-us-military-to-use-its-base-to-attack-islamic-state/2015/07/23/317f23aa-3164-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html

In what way is Turkey giving support to isis?

[iandhr]

19. Many out there believe Turkey is playing both sides.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3335819/Double-dealing-tyrant-s-sabotaging-West-s-battle-crush-ISIS-Turkey-s-Erdogan-doing-cripple-forces-actually-fighting-ISIS-writes-MICHAEL-BURLEIGH.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state-supply-lines-erdogan-isis

[LanternWaste]

20. Belief, lacking objective evidence, is irrelevant.

Belief, lacking objective evidence, is irrelevant.

[iandhr]

21. I would say there is circumstantial

evidence to support that theory.

[Proserpina]

2. Sounds like Dane Geld

The English paid the Vikings to not raid them, and ended up paying every time they showed up, otherwise their villages would be plundered and burned....

So, the Europeans, who couldn't afford to help Greece, are going to pay Turkey to not dump refugees on their shores? And throw in visas?

Europe needs a revolution to throw out these "technocratic kleptomaniacs".

[PosterChild]

9. TTurkey is a member of NATO...

Turkey is a member of NATO and wants inclusion in the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO

America has combat aircraft stationed in Turkey and is running sorties against isis from there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-agrees-to-allow-us-military-to-use-its-base-to-attack-islamic-state/2015/07/23/317f23aa-3164-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html

Turkey does not sponsor terrorism against the west - on the contrary Turkey is often the victim of terrorism .

[Proserpina]

15. Your information is not only out of date, it's incomplete and dubious

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016138104

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016138091

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016138439

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016138416

all of which can be found in GOOD READS forum on this website

[PosterChild]

24. Thank you, comrade ....

.... and please extend my well wishes to the esteemed and nobel Vladimir "Правда" Putin.

[another_liberal]

17. Exactly!

That is precisely what it looks like, and I doubt if the EU will get anything like its money's worth either.

[rpannier]

3. The EU negotiating with terrorists

[PosterChild]

7. In what sense can Turkey be considered terroristic...

Turkey is a member of NATO and wants inclusion in the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO

America has combat aircraft stationed in Turkey and is running sorties against isis from there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-agrees-to-allow-us-military-to-use-its-base-to-attack-islamic-state/2015/07/23/317f23aa-3164-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html

Why would you consider an agreement with Turkey to be an agreement with terrorists ?

[rpannier]

11. They are/have been using the threat of allowing more refugees to flee into Europe

They insist on being given money and if not, then they will let more refugees into Europe.
That is a form of terrorism. Give us money and other things or else

[PosterChild]

12. LOL, taking decent care of refuges . ...

.... is terrorism ? And turkey is the only country that has a responsibility to host refuges? And they are the only ones who should pay for the refugees' welfare?

Sorry , that just does not make sense to me.

[pampango]

14. Gaddafi did the same for Europe. They have a history of dealing with bad types who can help them.

Every country does.

[840high]

4. How much will Turkey give to ISIS?

[PosterChild]

6. Turkey is a member of NATO...

.... and wants inclusion in the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO

America has combat aircraft stationed in Turkey and is running sorties against isis from there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-agrees-to-allow-us-military-to-use-its-base-to-attack-islamic-state/2015/07/23/317f23aa-3164-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html

Why would Turkey in any way support isis?

[840high]

8. Turkey is a traitor - playing

both sides of the street.

[PosterChild]

10. You might want to substantiate that assertion...

..... with a few facts.

[coyote]

13. You might want to do a little research

It is well documented that Turkey is buying oil from ISIS in Syria. This is most likely the reason why Turkey took down Russia´s plane because Russia was wiping out the oil tankers running from Syria to Turkey. The person who was losing was Erdogan´s son (his side oil business). Also, where exactly do you think ISIS is getting these American weapons to blow up Russian rescue helicopters for example?

Who cares if Turkey is a NATO member, they are talking through both sides of their mouth.

[PosterChild]

22. "Well documted"? LOL....

Putin’s accusation yesterday — made just as Moscow was expelling 39 Turkish businessmen attending a conference in Russia — that Turkey is propping up ISIS by buying oil from them...

Well, comrade, if Vladimir "Правда" Putin says so that makes it well documented ! ! LOL

[PosterChild]

23. Who cares if Turkey is a member of NATO?

I'd say Vladimir "Правда" Putin had better care, comrade ! Those F16s that toook down vlad's su-24 were made in America technology. The manpad SAM that took down his hilicopter was American technology. Are you starting to connect the dots? I mean, what are friends for, comrade?

Don't forget what those manpad sams did to Soviet gun ships in Afghanistan. Comrade.

[another_liberal]

16. The "Deal" still has to be voted on by the parliaments of EU nations . . .

At least I understand that to be the case, and a universal acceptance seems less than certain.

Concerning Chancellor Merkel see:

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151130/1030980509/eu-unity-merkel-doubts.html

[Proserpina]

18. Angela Merkel is twisting in the wind

She's not in charge, anymore, all of a sudden, not at home nor abroad. And that's a good thing, provided Schauble isn't her replacement.

[Aria36]

25. Who does this money go to?

The Turkish government, refugee aid agencies or the refugees themselves?