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Galraedia

(5,027 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:05 PM May 2012

How Governor Rick Scott Is Preventing Eligible U.S. Citizens From Voting In Florida

Source: ThinkProgress

The Miami Herald reports that “Florida’s quest to identify and remove non-U.S. citizens from the voter rolls was started at the direct urging of Gov. Rick Scott.” Scott instructed his former Secretary of State, Kurt Browning, to compile a list of people who were registered in Florida but ineligible to vote.

Browning struggled to aquire accurate data and eventually resigned his post in February. Scott moved forward with the effort anyway, and in recent days “the state sent a list to county election supervisors of more than 2,600 people who have been identified as non-U.S. citizens.”

According to election supervisors, the list is riddled with inaccuracies. Seminole County Supervisor of Elections Mike Ertel, a Republican, posted a picture on Twitter earlier this week of a voter on the list falsely identified as ineligible, with his passport:

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/05/23/488882/how-governor-rick-scott-is-preventing-eligible-us-citizens-from-voting-in-florida/

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How Governor Rick Scott Is Preventing Eligible U.S. Citizens From Voting In Florida (Original Post) Galraedia May 2012 OP
And so it begins. Better get started on this and don't forget Voter ID TrogL May 2012 #1
Could easily come down to Floriduh and the unSupreme Court again. polichick May 2012 #2
That's what I'm expecting. nt valerief May 2012 #3
You don't think BushCo's candidate would try to steal Florida, do you? EFerrari May 2012 #8
I think we can count on it... polichick May 2012 #11
Agreed. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #12
Voting machines are important but this is a different issue. Jim Lane May 2012 #21
True - imo the whole system is corrupt... polichick May 2012 #24
Some experts say Romney cannot win without Florida Samantha May 2012 #14
Good questions - there needs to be a powerful ad on the air there... polichick May 2012 #15
Here is why DonCoquixote May 2012 #16
I think you may be right about her being more of a right-leaning Dem than most people think Samantha May 2012 #17
Not final say, but DonCoquixote May 2012 #19
Well the additional problem is the overt lying being done by the Republicans Samantha May 2012 #20
How many snowbirds vote in both Florida and their home state? hedgehog May 2012 #4
Rick Scott belongs in federal prison for this shit! Hubert Flottz May 2012 #5
Of course they are lark May 2012 #7
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #6
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #9
DOJ:This is just like Bush/Harris in 2000 the phony felons list. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #10
What are Democrats waiting for as the map goclark May 2012 #13
Isn't election fraud great? sakabatou May 2012 #18
Florida, its liars, and its troubled elections SB2 May 2012 #22
This is Being Done in Every State the Teabaggers Control AndyTiedye May 2012 #23
Democracy was hijacked in 2000 and citizens did nothing... polichick May 2012 #25

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
8. You don't think BushCo's candidate would try to steal Florida, do you?
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:40 PM
May 2012

Last edited Wed May 23, 2012, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)

/oops

polichick

(37,152 posts)
11. I think we can count on it...
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:29 PM
May 2012

And it will keep happening until the people DEMAND verifiable voting with receipts - something neither party seems to want.

imo there is only one reason not to have verifiable voting in a democracy.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. Voting machines are important but this is a different issue.
Thu May 24, 2012, 01:00 AM
May 2012

Verifiable voting doesn't address the problem of preventing qualified voters from being able to vote in the first place.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
14. Some experts say Romney cannot win without Florida
Wed May 23, 2012, 04:00 PM
May 2012

He must win Florida.

With all of the seniors living there, I keep wondering why the Dems do not expose more to Floridians about what the Republicans plan to do to entitlements. It seems just helping those seniors gain a knowledge of what the Ryan plan does to Medicare could turn the tide against Romney in Florida.

Can anyone explain this to me? How a Republican could possibly win in Florida with their determination to cut entitlements (or eliminate them)?

Sam

polichick

(37,152 posts)
15. Good questions - there needs to be a powerful ad on the air there...
Wed May 23, 2012, 04:13 PM
May 2012

...with a very clear message.

I'm from Florida and do know there are a lot of wealthy retired people who are terrified that somebody is going to take their money and give it to others - that group will be strong for Romney. Republican voters are all about FEAR - and the party works it in a whole lot of ways.

Dems have a legitimate reason to scare people about entitlements - but where are they?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
16. Here is why
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:22 PM
May 2012

You would think that the person who got dean's job, Debbie wasserman schultz, would be all over this, right? Wrong, because she is a DINO, juts like Cory Booker.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
17. I think you may be right about her being more of a right-leaning Dem than most people think
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:46 PM
May 2012

Last edited Thu May 24, 2012, 12:12 AM - Edit history (1)

So as DNC chair, she has the final say over what ads play there? Is that how it is?

I only ask because I talked to an high school friend who is well-to-do and now lives in Sarasota. When I told him what the Republicans were planning to do to Medicare, he asked, "Is there any way to stop this?" I told him the seniors in Florida voting for Obama could have a big influence, but I cannot understand why it is a virtual tie down there.

Sam

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
19. Not final say, but
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:08 PM
May 2012

As a florida dem, and as someone at the national level, she could set the tone, but Florida Democrats are famous for being weaksauce people whose main appeal is "we are not those crazy GOP." Look at it this way, we are very likely to accept Charlie crist as a democrat, because we cannot stand Rick Scott. Alex Sink, who was the last Dem candidate, lost by a margin so thin you neded a microscope yet she laid down asnd got herself a nice cushy job.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. Well the additional problem is the overt lying being done by the Republicans
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:08 AM
May 2012

that no one calls them on. Someone with some credibility, perhaps President Obama himself, should make a commercial outlining the distinct differences between the Republicans' plans for these programs and the Democrats'. It should be a factual outline which gives credible links and other sources for citizens to check themselves. Somehow, someway, the seniors in Florida need to be spoon-fed the literal truth; and should a miracle happen and that occur, they will turn on Romney like a very angry tornado. And since Florida is a must-have for Romney, the election could be decided there on that one issue.

Sam

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
5. Rick Scott belongs in federal prison for this shit!
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:58 PM
May 2012

Trying to cheat people out of their right to vote is about as fucking low down as it gets. I wonder how many veterans were on that list.

Rick Scott and the GOP are trying to sabotage what's left of our democracy.

lark

(23,155 posts)
7. Of course they are
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:36 PM
May 2012

Only people that perpetuate the myth that wealth actually trickles down are allowed to vote. If you are not an old white male from the south, you are not allowed a choice because you won't increase the wealth of the 1/2%.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
10. DOJ:This is just like Bush/Harris in 2000 the phony felons list.
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

They must expect Florida to be close again.

DOJ needs to get in there and act now against this disenfranchisement.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
13. What are Democrats waiting for as the map
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

has just a few states left that ARE NOT SET to suppress the vote?

 

SB2

(23 posts)
22. Florida, its liars, and its troubled elections
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:06 AM
May 2012

Boy did Governor Rick Scott nail it when he, according to the Miami Herald article, said “people lie”. I’m glad to see the state cleaning up the voter rolls. However a bit of research reveals that the consensus amongst many is that instances of voter fraud seem to be relatively few and far between. Conversely, what can’t be denied is that in the current climate gamesmanship and outright cheating runs rife amongst those with the most to gain/lose. That being stated, election fraud is a very real threat. That being the case, the charge that I’d really like to see Governor Scott, Secretary of State Ken Detzner, and all the rest of Governor Scott’s immediate cohorts lead is the charge to excise corrupt actors from the election process. Right now in Alachua County there is a proven criminally-corrupt judge—a judge by the name of David P. Kreider—that has been illegally entangled in Florida’s 2012 election process. The state is aware of this undeniable fact yet it has continued to improperly display a multi-dimensional lack of concern. The public and all law-abiding public servants should be aware of this as well.

See the below message (information was updated on 05/07/2012) for more insight into this matter. The comment was previously posted elsewhere but it is fitting that I share it here.

Additionally, to all vigilant watchers I say keep on keeping your “eyes peeled”. Fuhgeddabout “hittin’ the fan”, you'll soon see that s#!t is on the fan…and it stinks. Unfortunately methinks things will only get worse before they improve.

---------------------------------------------------

Next stop Gainesville, Fla. (i.e. "Gator Country&quot . “Why specifically?”, you ask.

Because in Alachua County, within recent months, numerous and egregious violations of law have been committed that warrant multiple criminal prosecutions and other severe government sanctions. These crimes have had all types of deleterious effects including, but not limited to, once again placing the integrity of Florida’s election results (for 2012) in jeopardy. A few of the things that are central to this issue are:

1
David P. Kreider {Mr. Kreider, a proven criminal, is a corrupt Alachua County Court judge. This criminally-corrupt judge also happens to be both (a) one of the circuit's former prosecutors and (b) a former Division Chief for the State Attorney's Office.}

2
Robert Roundtree, Chief Judge for Florida’s 8th Judicial Circuit (he recently replaced the embattled Martha Lott who resigned from her chief judge post subsequent to becoming embroiled in this scandal which has started to implode; her resignation was announced on 04/09/2012 and was reported to have gone into effect on 04/05/2012)

3
Spencer Mann, Chief Investigator for the State Attorney’s Office of Florida’s 8th Judicial Circuit

4
William "Bill" Cervone, State Attorney for Florida's 8th Judicial Circuit

5
The conspiracy / scandal related to the "Gibson Case"

6
The two irrefutable reports and extensive corroborating evidence that is in the possession of agencies, including those within Florida’s 8th Judicial Circuit (and the aforementioned Spencer Mann and Chief Judge’s office). The comprehensive reports and evidence span a total of more than 100 pages and in-depthly detail criminal activities carried out under the color of law by criminal/judge David P. Kreider and various other co-conspirators.

http://www.complaints.com/2012/march/14/Corrupt_Judge_David_P._Kreider_now_taints_the_ele_264712.htm
{Updated most recently on 05/07/2012. This is the initial url and the complaint at this url will remain online to serve as a referral to the below mandated url.}

[link: http://www.complaints.com/2012/may/21/Corrupt_Judge_David_P._Kreider_now_taints_the_ele_266368.htm|
http://www.complaints.com/2012/may/21/Corrupt_Judge_David_P._Kreider_now_taints_the_ele_266368.htm]
{This is where all of the updates following 05/07/2012 will be in the future. As of today (05/24/2012) no post-05/07/2012 information is posted here. See the note at the bottom of this comment.}

This is the gateway to serious corruption and a major cover-up attempt.


Note:

Inexplicably, at this critical time, the ability to update the completely truthful complaint that is displayed at the above listed initial complaints.com url has been blocked (this problem just arose in mid-May 2012). Complaints.com was notified in hopes that the issue would be remedied promptly (especially before the involved co-conspirators made any additional damaging/wrongful maneuvers or inappropriately benefited from the dissemination of any additional misinformation outside of scrutiny). For the most part, as of now (05/24/2012), to the best of my knowledge the report at the initial url is up-to-date and the involved co-conspirators haven't executed any additional illicit maneuvers that haven't already at least been touched upon in that initial complaints.com webpage complaint. On 05/19/2012 complaints.com indicated that it would no longer be possible to update the information at the well-publicized initial webpage/url and essentially that the complaint would have to be duplicated and that all future updates would have to be made at a new complaints.com webpage/url.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
23. This is Being Done in Every State the Teabaggers Control
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:50 AM
May 2012

It is going to be a huge problem for us in November.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
25. Democracy was hijacked in 2000 and citizens did nothing...
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:19 PM
May 2012

...when the Democratic party should have led a citizens' revolt.

What will the party do now?

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