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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:36 PM Nov 2015

Russia Deploys Missile Cruiser Off Syria Coast, Ordered To Destroy Any Target Posing Danger

Source: Russia Today

Moscow plans to suspend military cooperation with Ankara after the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkish air forces, Russian General Staff representatives said on Tuesday. Further measures to beef up Russian air base security in Syria will also be taken.

Three steps as announced by top brass:



Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets

Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger

Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended


Sergey Rudskoy, a top official with the Russian General Staff, condemned the attack on the Russian bomber in Syrian airspace by a Turkish fighter jet as “a severe violation of international law”. He stressed that the Su-24 was downed over the Syrian territory. The crash site was four kilometers away from the Turkish border, he said.



Read more: https://www.rt.com/news/323329-russia-suspend-military-turkey/
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Russia Deploys Missile Cruiser Off Syria Coast, Ordered To Destroy Any Target Posing Danger (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2015 OP
Depending on the model of missile - that cruiser can engage targets from 45-200 km jpak Nov 2015 #1
k&r for later persual and more visibility n/t w0nderer Nov 2015 #2
So I guess Russia won't even help a tiny bit with the 12 million refugees? Sunlei Nov 2015 #3
Let alone Russia GP6971 Nov 2015 #26
Anyone remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? another_liberal Nov 2015 #4
The next 48 will be interesting, indeed. eom Purveyor Nov 2015 #5
Too true . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #7
This is all the media 'News' the Russian people see 24/7. Putin must want Assad's Sea Port as badly Sunlei Nov 2015 #8
President Assad has already given Russia use of Syrian ports . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #17
so that is how Assad pays for Putins help exterminating ALL 'anti-assads'? Sunlei Nov 2015 #19
except 'want to keep' Red Mountain Nov 2015 #22
WTF. Russia was pretending to fight ISIS--now they want to shoot down planes? uhnope Nov 2015 #6
Turkey shot down a Russian plane . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #9
I know, right? This place is so weird sometimes. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #11
Yeah, it can be confusing . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #14
Um, read the OP? uhnope Nov 2015 #18
Russia seems to have forgotten even its own lying reason to be in the ME uhnope Nov 2015 #12
Turkey committed an act of war . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #13
Russia pretends to be there to fight ISIS but now it's testing NATO boundaries with fighter jets uhnope Nov 2015 #15
Why in the hell would they want to do a fool thing like that? another_liberal Nov 2015 #16
Russia is hitting terrorists... And non terrorist rebels. Adrahil Nov 2015 #21
If one has nothing to add . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #30
Russia has been cutting off the supply of weapons to ISIS from Turkey newthinking Nov 2015 #25
Thank you! nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #28
other tracking radars say it crossed into Turkish airspace Red Mountain Nov 2015 #24
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #20
Oh look ....... you conveniently forget what started all this shit, right? polly7 Nov 2015 #23
So is it time for another Russo-Turkish War? starroute Nov 2015 #10
Now Turkey is a member of NATO. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #27
Turkey should just say "oops" fbc Nov 2015 #29

jpak

(41,758 posts)
1. Depending on the model of missile - that cruiser can engage targets from 45-200 km
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

It's basically a naval S-300 system...

GP6971

(31,168 posts)
26. Let alone Russia
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:41 PM
Nov 2015

What about the Gulf States? Deplorable response to the crisis. Pawn the problem off on other nations and offer to build mosques for every 100 refugees.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
4. Anyone remember the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:54 PM
Nov 2015

I do. There was a feeling of tension and dread for days. At this moment, it is beginning to feel that way again.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. Too true . . .
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:09 PM
Nov 2015

I imagine Turkey got a good lecture at the NATO meeting today, despite the unofficial words of support issued afterward. Still, the Turks are ideologically driven (reviving the Ottoman Empire, and all of that) so they may do something quite unexpected.

Here's hoping for a dull tomorrow.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. This is all the media 'News' the Russian people see 24/7. Putin must want Assad's Sea Port as badly
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:09 PM
Nov 2015

as he wanted Ukraines-Crimea Port.

I assume China will share their new military base island with Russia. Since they're "best buddie" countries.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
17. President Assad has already given Russia use of Syrian ports . . .
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:22 PM
Nov 2015

So, there is no reason for President Putin to "want" them.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. so that is how Assad pays for Putins help exterminating ALL 'anti-assads'?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:54 PM
Nov 2015

Sea Port use forever?

Just when will Assad invite back the 12 million Syrian refugees? His countries is missing over half its population.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. WTF. Russia was pretending to fight ISIS--now they want to shoot down planes?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:05 PM
Nov 2015

Typical fucked-up Russian-gov situation.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
14. Yeah, it can be confusing . . .
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:45 PM
Nov 2015

But not really any worse than much of the media. They just line up to feed at the Pentagon disinformation slop trough.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
18. Um, read the OP?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:25 PM
Nov 2015

Russia has deployed a warship off the coast and is threatening to launch cruise missiles at anyone that even thinks about getting close to it.
Russia was supposed to be fighting terrorists (that don't have planes) and now they are playing "cross this line" with Turkey and anyone else in the region.
Total Absurdistan at best, and dangerous war-making at worst.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
12. Russia seems to have forgotten even its own lying reason to be in the ME
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:34 PM
Nov 2015

& now they are on a war stance with Turkey because they can't work together with the international community and keep its fucking fighter jets within the Syrian borders and out of NATO airspace.

Pretty much exactly as predicted.

But of course it's everyone else's fault except Putin's.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
13. Turkey committed an act of war . . .
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:43 PM
Nov 2015

It did so by intentionally attacking a Russian plane while it was in Syrian airspace (satellite radar tracking of the planes makes that much clear) and by killing a Russian pilot while he was engaged in lawful attacks against al Nusra terror targets.



See video at: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151124/1030695406/mod-su-24-flight-path.html

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
16. Why in the hell would they want to do a fool thing like that?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:04 PM
Nov 2015

Also, why can't you accept that Russia is attacking terrorist targets in Syria? That fact does seem to have been pretty well proven over the last two months, right? CNN has even used video taken by Russian attack planes hitting Islamic State oil tank farms (though they did initially mislabel it as film from American air raids).

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
21. Russia is hitting terrorists... And non terrorist rebels.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

And dropping unguided bombs on villages from helicopters.

But don't let me stop your cheering party for glorious leader.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
25. Russia has been cutting off the supply of weapons to ISIS from Turkey
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:37 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Turkey has been arming Al-Nusra and those weapons are ending up in the hands of ISIS.

It is amazing how no-one is asking how in the world an operation that was selling so much oil for ISIS that you could see the line of trucks from space was allowed to continue to exist for 6 months and we only now bombed them after pressure from the Russian campaign.

ISIS won't last long once it can no longer hire mercenaries and weapon delivery is stopped. That is why Russia has been concentrating and taking a strategic approach.



[font size=3]Is Vladimir Putin right to label Turkey ‘accomplices of terrorists’? [/font]
Guardian

Turkey’s international airports have also been busy. Many, if not most, of the estimated 15,000-20,000 foreign fighters to have joined Islamic State (Isis) have first flown into Istanbul or Adana, or arrived by ferry along its Mediterranean coast.

The influx has offered fertile ground to allies of Assad who, well before a Turkish jet shot down a Russian fighter on Tuesday, had enabled, or even supported Isis. Vladimir Putin’s reference to Turkey as “accomplices of terrorists” is likely to resonate even among some of Ankara’s backers.

From midway through 2012, when jihadis started to travel to Syria, their presence was apparent at all points of the journey to the border: at Istanbul airport, in the southern cities of Hatay and Gaziantep – both of which were staging points – and in the border villages. Foreigners on their way to fight remained fixtures on these routes until late in 2014 when, after continued pressure from the EU states and the US, coordinated efforts were made to turn them back.

By then, Isis had become a dominant presence in parts of north and east Syria. It had splintered non-ideological factions of the Syrian opposition as well as Islamist groups, both of which had been backed by Turkey, and ensured that whatever form of governance that emerged from Syria’s ruins would have little to do with the revolution’s original goals.

The steady stream of foreigners who passed through Hatay and Gaziantep made little effort to remain discreet, gathering regularly in local hotels, coffee shops and bus stations. European diplomats alarmed by the gathering threat concluded that the Turkish leadership was sympathetic to conservative Islamists travelling to fight Assad, who had, until his brutal response to pro-democracy demonstrations in 2011, been a friend of the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. “After that he became an enemy,” said one western official. “Erdoğan had tried to mentor Assad. But after the crackdown [on demonstrations] he felt insulted by him. And we are where we are today.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/24/vladimir-putin-turkey-isis-terrorists-warplane-analysis

Red Mountain

(1,735 posts)
24. other tracking radars say it crossed into Turkish airspace
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

Clearly, every detail is anecdotal. Perhaps the prudent approach would be to steer well clear of the grey areas where accidents tend to happen.

Response to another_liberal (Reply #9)

polly7

(20,582 posts)
23. Oh look ....... you conveniently forget what started all this shit, right?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:31 PM
Nov 2015

But ........... Pootie!!!

Too bad, so sad for those men and their families. Fucking Russians, anyway!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
10. So is it time for another Russo-Turkish War?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:12 PM
Nov 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Russo-Turkish_wars

1 Russo-Turkish War (1568–70) Russian military victory Ottoman commercial victory
2 Russo-Turkish War (1676–81) Treaty of Bakhchisarai
3 Russo-Turkish War (1686–1700) Russia gains possession of Azov fortress of Taganrog
Pavlovsk and Mius
4 Russo-Turkish War (1710–11) Ottoman victory
5 Austro-Russian–Turkish War (1735–39) Treaty of Niš (1739)
6 Russo-Turkish War (1768–74) Russian victory
7 Russo-Turkish War (1787–92) Russian victory
8 Russo-Turkish War (1806–12) Russian victory
9 Russo-Turkish War (1828–29) Russian victory
10 Crimean War (1853–56) Ottoman, British, French and Italian victory
11 Russo-Turkish War (1877–78) Russian victory
12 World War I: Caucasus Campaign (1914–18) Armistice of Erzincan
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