Edging right, Clinton seeks distance from Obama on ISIS
Source: The Hill
Hillary Clinton is putting space between herself and President Obama on the issues of national security and terrorism, even at the risk of offending the most dovish members of her own party.
... Like President Obama, I do not believe that we should again have 100,000 American troops in combat in the Middle East. That is just not the smart move to make here. But she added that U.S. forces should be utilized to support local and regional ground forces in carrying out this mission.
Clinton drew an even sharper contrast with Obama at the second Democratic presidential debate, declaring that ISIS cannot be contained, it must be defeated.
Obama has received considerable criticism for saying that ISIS was contained the day before the attacks on Paris that killed 130 people. Aides emphasized he had been using the word to describe the organizations control of territory, rather than suggesting the threat had been neutralized.
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/261157-clinton-seeks-distance-from-obama-on-isis
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Five Prerequisites for War Against ISIS
http://robertreich.org/post/133823574720
We appear to be moving ever closer toward a world war against the Islamic State.
No sane person welcomes war. Yet if we do go to war against ISIS we must keep a watchful eye on 5 things:
1. The burden of fighting the war must be widely shared among Americans. Americas current all-volunteer army is comprised largely of lower-income men and women for whom army pay is the best option...If we go into a ground war against ISIS, we should seriously consider reinstating the draft.
2. We must not sacrifice our civil liberties. U.S. spy agencies no longer have authority they had in the post-9/11 USA Patriot Act to collect Americans phone and other records. The NSA must now gain court approval for such access. But in light of the Paris attacks, the FBI director and other leading U.S. law enforcement officials now say they need access to encrypted information on smartphones, personal and business records of suspected terrorists, and roving wiretaps of suspects using multiple disposable cell phones. War can also lead to internment of suspects and suspensions of constitutional rights, as weve painfully witnessed...We must be vigilant that we maintain the freedoms we are fighting for.
3. We must minimize the deaths of innocent civilians abroad. The bombing raids have already claimed a terrible civilian toll, contributing to a mass exodus of refugees...Some civilian casualties are unavoidable. But we must ensure they are minimized and not just out of humanitarian concern. Every civilian death creates more enemies. And we must do our part to take in a fair portion of Syrian refugees.
4. We must not tolerate anti-Muslim bigotry in the United States. Already, leading Republican candidates are fanning the flames...Its outrageous that leading Republican candidates for president of the United States are fueling such hate. Such bigotry is not only morally odious. It also plays into the hands of ISIS.
5. The war must be paid for with higher taxes on the rich. A week before the terrorist attacks in Paris, the Senate passed a $607 billion defense spending bill, with 91 senators in favor and 3 opposed (including Bernie Sanders). The House has already passed it, 370 to 58. Obama has said hell sign it. That defense appropriation is larded with pork for military contractors including Lockheed Martins F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the most expensive weapons system in history. Now Republicans are pushing for even more military spending. We cannot let them use the war as a pretext to cut Social Security and Medicare, or programs for the poor. The war should be paid for the way we used to pay for wars with higher taxes, especially on the wealthy...
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)and sometimes (Paul if you catch him on a flip day instead of a flop day) are the only candidates from either party who share my concern.
Of these three, only Sanders is polling above 5% and has a campaign sufficiently well funded to make it to Super Tuesday (and Paul is a certifiable wingnut on every other issue -- probably shouldn't let that fact escape mention).
Demeter
(85,373 posts)I see no reason to do anything in the Middle East, and that means money, materiel, trade, etc.
We've done too much already, and to bad effect.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I suppose you have to admire her supporter's naivete.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Duh-Oh...the real War Hawk Hill is showing!
bemildred
(90,061 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)and walking across the room let me know what goes out. Contained in context means different things. smh
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)IMO, she seems to be bearing strong right.
I am no supporter of the Third Way.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)adir
(33 posts)Her enthusiasm for destruction, suffering and chaos is disturbing.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)our general election choice will be between a pro-war/pro-military-industrial-complex Republican versus a pro-war/pro-military-industrial-complex Democrat. That would suck.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Who thinks ISIS can be "contained" and that they should not be "defeated"?
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Wernothelpless
(410 posts)If the polls show 62% of Amurkans want ground forces it punches her ticket ...
Sellout ...
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Edging right is NOT the correct term. She's simply evolving.
Sinpledon
(15 posts)According to the clickbait - happy The Hill, it is.