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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:12 PM Nov 2015

Police arrest suspect in shooting at 4th Precinct Black Lives Matter protest

Source: Star Tribune

Police have arrested one of the three white men who allegedly fired into a crowd near the Black Lives Matter encampment Monday night.

Minneapolis police said they arrested a 23-year-old suspect in Bloomington at 11:20 a.m. Tuesday. Police are still searching for the other two suspects.

Authorities are weighing whether to treat the shooting of five people protesting near the Minneapolis Police Department’s 4th Precinct Monday night as a hate crime, sources familiar with the investigation said Tuesday morning.

The victims, all black men — ages 19 through 43 — were taken to hospitals with noncritical injuries, according to police.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/police-searching-for-suspects-who-fired-into-crowd-at-blm-protest-outside-4th-precinct/353154811/

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Police arrest suspect in shooting at 4th Precinct Black Lives Matter protest (Original Post) LanternWaste Nov 2015 OP
When you arrest a kid for making a clock, or you shoot a kid for playhing with a toy, Tamir randys1 Nov 2015 #1
Weighing? It will be itneresting to see what they decide. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #2
Jeezus, it IS a hate crime! n/t geardaddy Nov 2015 #3
+1 daleanime Nov 2015 #21
Terrorism. Hate. Criminal. haikugal Nov 2015 #4
There will be a newsconference and march this afternoon riversedge Nov 2015 #5
I am so glad no one died. Black Lives Matter. Kick. dinkytron Nov 2015 #6
weighing whether it's a hate crime? TIME TO PANIC Nov 2015 #7
White supremacists wearing masks, yelling taunts at, and eventually shooting black protesters. Scurrilous Nov 2015 #8
Here's the video of the white supremacists geardaddy Nov 2015 #12
Thanks. Scurrilous Nov 2015 #15
Slimy people. Sure hope they will be exposed. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #30
There is no question - see their own harvested plotting messages. Daemonaquila Nov 2015 #16
Chimpout Friday Night? Scurrilous Nov 2015 #17
4chan aye? I'd take anything from or about them with a very huge grain of salt. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #33
This is what people like Trump are advocatng with their hate rhetoric. jalan48 Nov 2015 #9
I wonder how the ride back to the station was underpants Nov 2015 #10
I heard they stopped for Cheeseburgers and Cokes bahrbearian Nov 2015 #11
I hate Minnesota Nazis geardaddy Nov 2015 #13
lol CatWoman Nov 2015 #18
WTF? GitRDun Nov 2015 #14
It's Also An Act Of Terrorism ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #23
+1 GitRDun Nov 2015 #29
Damn fucking straight it was a hate crime! marym625 Nov 2015 #19
As a Minnesotan I would like it tried as a hate crime. I am jwirr Nov 2015 #20
Press Terrorism Charges billhicks76 Nov 2015 #22
I'm beginning to wonder if charges of domestic terrorism may apply. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #24
Actually, I think a domestic terrorism charge would apply better than ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #26
Zimmerman and his defenders on DU were small potatoes next to this. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #28
Weighing whether?! Really?! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #25
No "Stand Your Ground" law in MN. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #27
TERRORISM The Stranger Nov 2015 #31
They should also be charged with conspiracy. denverbill Nov 2015 #32

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. When you arrest a kid for making a clock, or you shoot a kid for playhing with a toy, Tamir
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:15 PM
Nov 2015

or you brutally gun down another for talking back about jaywalking, and then you DEFEND this shit, you can expect stuff to follow.

The rabidly racist country, America, needs to stop it's racism which can be found in EVERY institution and EVERYwhere white people gather you will find it, EVERYWHERE

Not all white people will be guilty of it, but this is where you will find it

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
5. There will be a newsconference and march this afternoon
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:21 PM
Nov 2015



.....Monday night’s shooting has garnered nationwide attention. In New York City, people plan to gather at Washington Square Park on Wednesday evening.

Before the shooting, BLM had planned a series of events this week.

It has scheduled a news conference Tuesday at 1 p.m. to talk about what was discussed at Sunday night’s community meeting.

The group announced plans for a march at 2 p.m. Tuesday from the 4th Precinct to city hall, the Hennepin County Courthouse and the federal courthouse. A memorial concert is planned for Tuesday night outside the 4th Precinct. A food and clothing drive is planned for Wednesday, and organizers plan a community Thanksgiving on Thursday.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
8. White supremacists wearing masks, yelling taunts at, and eventually shooting black protesters.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015

Gee...I wonder if they were motivated by hate?

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
16. There is no question - see their own harvested plotting messages.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:32 PM
Nov 2015

These organizing messages were harvested off 4-Chan.

http://pastebin.com/FkA1B2rq

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
9. This is what people like Trump are advocatng with their hate rhetoric.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015

They are making violence acceptable when it's aimed at minority groups.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
10. I wonder how the ride back to the station was
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015

sure hope this guy didn't shoot himself while handcuffed. Heaven forbid he had any loose cigarettes on him.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
14. WTF?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:28 PM
Nov 2015

A group (whose core goal is to get white people, mostly police, to stop killing them...particularly when they are unarmed) sets up a peaceful protest where no activists have weapons.

3 white guys shoot at the group.

If that isn't a hate crime, there are no hate crimes.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
23. It's Also An Act Of Terrorism
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

Since many terrorist acts are rooted in hate as well, i think this event qualifies on both counts.

There is clear intent to foment political or social change, or at least to stop someone else from achieving social change. Violence intended to intimidate others from driving social change is no different than violence intending to generate that change for one's own motive.

These punks are terrorists who committed a hate crime. There is nothing to deliberate.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
19. Damn fucking straight it was a hate crime!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:05 PM
Nov 2015

Wtf else could it be?

I'm glad the injuries are not life threatening.

#BlackLivesMatter

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. I'm beginning to wonder if charges of domestic terrorism may apply.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

Looking further into both the story, and the relevant legal definition, I'm beginning to wonder if charges of domestic terrorism may be applied validly along with any additional charges.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. Actually, I think a domestic terrorism charge would apply better than ...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:35 PM
Nov 2015

a hate-crime charge, which would require proving that the shooting was BECAUSE those shot were/are Black.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. Zimmerman and his defenders on DU were small potatoes next to this.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:13 PM
Nov 2015

All things being equal, I tend to agree. That said, I can only imagine the hysterical framing the right, the right-wing and the white supremacists would then engage in. Those little fellas would go absolutely bananas over having "one of their own" charged and tried under domestic terror laws and all the consequences those laws engender.

On DU, I often infer from a particular demographic the sentiment, "please don't let a white person be guilty of this heinous act, that would invalidate my sweeping prejudices" and the breathless sighs of relief when it turns out to be a non-white person.

That this shooting will most likely go to trial will force far too many irrational people to deny their better angels. Zimmerman and his defenders on DU were small potatoes compared to this.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
27. No "Stand Your Ground" law in MN.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:46 PM
Nov 2015

In 2010, Governor Mark Dayton (D) won an extremely close election (43.6% to 43.2%.)

In 2012, he vetoed a "Stand Your Ground" law.

If the Republican had won that election, then MN would have "Stand Your Ground" and the shooters in this case could use it at their trials. Because of that veto, the shooters will almost definitely be convicted.

If you ever talk to someone who is reluctant to vote, then you can cite this example of why voting-matters.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
32. They should also be charged with conspiracy.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:49 PM
Nov 2015

There is ample evidence they planned to do this well in advance.

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