Sen. Sherrod Brown: Mostly “White Males” Who Have Committed Terrorism In U.S. Since 9/11

[brooklynite]

Source: BuzzFeed

Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown says most terrorist attacks in the country since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks have been committed by “generally white males.”

“I think most of us recognize, we’re concerned but we also know that we trust the FBI and our security forces to do this right,” the senator from Ohio said on WAKR radio on Thursday morning. “Since the beginning of the Bush administration when we were attacked, September 11th, we’ve not had any major terrorist attacks in this country. We’ve had individual crazy people, of normally, they look more like me than they look like Middle Easterners. They are generally white males, who have shot up people in movie theaters and schools. Those are terrorist attacks, they’re just different kinds of terrorists.”

Brown said the U.S. government does a good job at keeping us safe from foreigners seeking to attack the country, but not “crazy gunmen” who perpetrate mass shootings in schools and other public spaces.

“But we have since the early Bush days, when September 11th happened, through the rest of the Bush years, and through the almost six years of the Obama administration, we’ve kept this country safe,” said Brown.

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/sen-sherrod-brown-mostly-white-males-who-have-committed-terr?utm_term=.kiglZ7MJZD#.gv1yXvKgXr

[onehandle]

1. Our greatest terrorist threat is from gun owners committing domestic terrorism.

Often on their own wives and family.

It's just not called terrorism.

If Homeland Security is going to continue to exist, then they should take over the Firearms portion of the ATF and get some things done.

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[hack89]

21. And what exactly should they get "done"? nt

[beevul]

32. How are the aproximately 185000 of those who committed suicide...

How are the aproximately 185000 of those who committed suicide, engaging in terrorism, domestic or otherwise?

(Not that I expect an answer)

I guess you thought nobody would notice, huh?

You and your anti-gun buddies claim we pro-gun folks don't care about suicides, but the fact is, you wont find us lumping them in with a bigger group and calling them terrorists.

That's all on you.

Bookmarked.

[beevul]

58. Why are you pretending that they were intended to be unrelated? N/T

[Hekate]

2. Kick for truth.

[valerief]

3. White males WITH GUNS. nt

[7962]

26. Except for the ones that were black.

Such as Aron Alexis, John Allen Muhammed, Lee Malvo

[6000eliot]

31. What exactly do you not understand about the words "mostly" or "generally?"

[7962]

36. The post I responded to plainly said "white males with guns". No qualifiers.

The word "mostly" wasnt used. Just another "bad white guy" post. I merely pointed out that white males dont have a corner on the market

[mwrguy]

4. Absolutely!

[NYCButterfinger]

5. He may have a point, but he's only adding to the Democratic Party's demise

Saying things like that only aggravates white males. I see it every day in the tri-state area where I live. I go to places like Whitestone, Queens, Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Douglaston, Queens, etc; and when they hear things like this it makes them hate Democrats more. The Republicans will play this tape over and over in 2018 when Brown is up for re-election. Brown needs to be careful, but he may have a point. He has to be careful with what he says. It only increases the GOP's belief that the Democratic Party is the party of Islam.

[BlueMTexpat]

34. Those white males who are

"aggravated" by such truths are part of the problem.

Fortunately, the majority of white males I have had the privilege of interacting with throughout my long life are rarely aggravated by truth. They would concur heartily with Senator Brown in this comment.

And yes, they are primarily either Democrats or Independents, with the occasional Republican who feels as if his party has left him.

Those white men who say that they "hate" Democrats likely never were Democrats and likely never will be. Their demise will certainly occur before that of the Democratic Party.

[Ikonoklast]

39. You don't know Ohio.

Sherrod Brown will be senator just as long as he cares to be.

All the places you named are full of angry White male racists who can't vote in my state.

[FLPanhandle]

6. There is a difference

No one is going into a cinema and shouting "White Males!" and shooting up the place.

It's not done for one purpose.

The terrorists are all saying they are doing for Islam.

[840high]

51. Yes they are.

[liberal N proud]

7. We are afraid to call them terrorist

[TomVilmer]

8. Not all engineers are prone to become terrorists...

"In a forthcoming book published by Princeton University Press, Diego Gambetta, a renowned sociologist at the European University Institute in Italy, and Steffen Hertog, an associate professor, provide a new theory for why it is that engineers seem unusually prone to become involved in terrorist organizations. ... It seems that engineers are common in clusters of terrorists that sprang up independently from each other, suggesting that there is some underlying factor that makes engineers more likely to be militants. Gambetta and Hertog find strongly suggestive evidence that engineers are more likely to become terrorists because of the way that they think about the world.

Survey data indicates that engineering faculty at universities are far more likely to be conservative than people with other degrees, and far more likely to be religious. They are seven times as likely to be both religious and conservative as social scientists. Gambetta and Hertog speculate that engineers combine these political predilections with a marked preference towards finding clearcut answers. ... Only a tiny, tiny minority of engineers are likely to become radicalized terrorists. In nearly all cases, engineers are ordinary people. Perhaps they are more likely to be conservative and religiously devout than people in other professions, but this is hardly cause for condemnation.

This logic, however, applies to other people than engineers. If we shouldn’t draw problematic generalizations about engineers based on a tiny minority, we plausibly shouldn’t be drawing problematic generalizations about refugees, or for that matter about Muslim residents of the U.S. or Europe. It’s hard to imagine prominent politicians or pundits making frightening sounding warnings about the dangers of letting engineers walk among us. Yet it’s no more ridiculous, given the evidence, than their fearful statements about Syrian refugees."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/11/17/this-is-the-group-thats-surprisingly-prone-to-violent-extremism/

[liberal N proud]

37. Being an engineer and working with engineer my whole life, I don't see the survey data results...

Survey data indicates that engineering faculty at universities are far more likely to be conservative than people with other degrees, and far more likely to be religious. They are seven times as likely to be both religious and conservative as social scientists.

I don't deal much with faculty any longer since I no longer live in a college town, did for 20 years though and never saw any of the profs in church and the community was a pretty faithful community.

The conservative part is neither true or false from my observations over the years, but the engineers I have worked with over the years are either adamantly conservative or adamantly liberal, you learn who you have to be careful discussing your view around as you learn how they will handle differing views.

[Attorney in Texas]

9. I wish someone would ask Cruz, Rubio, and Trumpo about this "Radical Christian" terrorism threat and

find out why they are afraid to embrace the term "Radical Christian" domestic terrorism.

[7962]

14. How many of these attacks have been to promote Christianity?

Compared to how many have been done by mentally ill people?

[Attorney in Texas]

20. Exactly. How many of the ISIL attacks have been to promote Islam?

[7962]

23. All of them

[Attorney in Texas]

27. You are seriously saying that ISIL blew up a Metrojet passenger plane to promote Islam? How does

that promote Islam?

Are you thinking that the Paris attack was to promote Islam? How do you think that works? Does your church blow people up as part of its community outreach program? Of course it doesn't. No one blows shit up to promote a religion.

Do you think the Irish Catholics and Northern Irish Protestants were attacking each other (and innocent bystanders) to promote Catholicism or Anglicanism?

Do you think the violence between Palestinians and Israelis grows out of an effort to promote Judaism or to promote the Sunni Muslim faith?

[BlueMTexpat]

33. It does boggle the mind how many here

keep promoting the same tired bigotry with the same tired RW rhetoric.

"Promoting" Islam - or any other religion - by blowing people up is hardly a successful technique.

If anything, it reduces the number of potential converts.

[EX500rider]

42. "You are seriously saying that ISIL blew up a Metrojet passenger plane to promote Islam?"

It's more submit to Islam or die then it is to promote....but still done with a religious motivation.

[Attorney in Texas]

44. There is nothing in the Quran about blowing up jets. This was politically motivated terrorism; not a

religious act any more than the burning of witches in Salem was a Christian religious act or IRA car bombs was a Catholic religious act.

[840high]

53. It did get rid of "infedels".

[840high]

52. All.

[Attorney in Texas]

55. Well, that makes you more of an Islamaphobe than George W Bush. Congratulations! Check the link to

see how Bush has a more enlightened and tolerant view than you:

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html

[840high]

57. Your opinion of me doesn't matter.

[sofa king]

10. Awesome!

I was just looking down this long list of headlines that would have been considered absurdist comedy twenty years ago, and wondering to myself if there was anyone sane left in this poop-spattered future, and yes! Yes there is, thanks to Senator Sherrrod Brown and brooklynite!

[shenmue]

11. True

[Maeve]

12. Our senator that helps make up for our govenor! eom

[Amimnoch]

13. Very true!

I've been saying this for a while.

Mass shootings in the US? Not done by Muslims.

Every single successful Presidential assassination, and assassination attempt in History - adult white male christians.

School shootings? Hmm, what's the physical traits of all of those again? What's the religious background? hmmm.

Yet we don't profile every single white christian male.. now do we? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. So, why is it okay to profile every single one of a 1.6 BILLION person demographic for the crimes of an extremely small percentage of their demographic?

[7962]

15. Because they werent doing it for Christianity, thats why.

John Hinckley did it for Jodie Foster. Oswald was a communist, not a Christian.
But if you want to go that route, then we should also factor race into ALL shootings and other violent crime. Look those stats up.

[Judi Lynn]

17. "Communist" is NOT the opposite of "Christian," for christssake. n/t

[7962]

24. I did not say that anywhere in my post. For christssake.

Just that he WAS a communist. ANd he didnt kill for religion. He also didnt like the fact that his wife baptized their child either.

[Amimnoch]

29. Guess you completely missed the point where I pointed out that it would be

ridiculous to profile on that basis?

[Judi Lynn]

16. You'd have to be a complete fraud to deny it. n/t

[spooky3]

18. Didn't he mean almost 7 years of the Obama admin?

[7962]

25. No, he went back 15 yrs. And its basically true,

although I would call the Hassan massacre a "major incident" of terrorism for sure.

[spooky3]

35. "And through almost six years of the Obama admin"

Is what I reference. See the 3rd line from the bottom of the OP.

[George II]

19. I say we deport all young, white Irish Catholic men (a la Timothy McVeigh)!!!

[WestIndianArchie]

22. Wow!!!!!!

Sounds like Sen. Brown wants to get to the root of the problem.

[olddad56]

28. since 911? It was older white males that causes the terrorism of 911.

and their names start with George, Dick and Donald.

[EX500rider]

43. I'm pretty sure is was a bunch of Saudi guys with boxcutters.

[madville]

48. Some would consider those guys

"white males" so technically his statement could be even more true.

[EX500rider]

56. Except I don't think any of those Saudi guys were named George, Dick and Donald

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. Obama has caused Right Wingers to crap themselves in terror.

[Taitertots]

38. Less than 15 years after 911 and it's finally happened: all crimes are now terrorism

Just wait for the horrific implications of treating every heinous crime as terrorism.

[They_Live]

40. K & R

Every day, the main stories on local news on TV consists of shootings and murder. I'm usually just waiting for the weather forecast, then turn it off.

[IronLionZion]

41. I thought freepers already settled that mass shootings are not terrorism

unless it is done by a muslim.

In all seriousness, while mass shootings ares terrifying, GOP politicians have claimed they are not terrorism unless there is a political agenda. It's a murky legal move as the government has tried using anti-terrorism laws and patriot act to investigate and prosecute organized crime syndicates, drug smugglers, and gangs who commit mass murder.

[EX500rider]

45. Maybe because that's the definition of the word?

ter·ror·ism:the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

[Hekate]

46. Kick for truth

[zwyziec]

47. White "Christian" Males

missing a key descripitve word of local terrorists

[madville]

50. Many could be Agnostic or Athiest

and just a "White Male" can also be a White Muslim Male. Just saying "white male" is lazy and alienates a large portion of the population.

[Dont call me Shirley]

49. Sherrie Brown has courage to speak the truth out loud!