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Omaha Steve

(99,662 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:09 PM Nov 2015

Sen. Bernie Sanders to explain his democratic socialist views

Source: USA Today

Nicole Gaudiano,

WASHINGTON — Sen. Bernie Sanders wants America to embrace a “second Bill of Rights,” a program for economic and social justice that President Franklin D. Roosevelt called for in 1944.

Sanders, a Vermont independent and candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, will highlight Roosevelt’s proposal on Thursday as part of a speech at Georgetown University in Washington explaining why he considers himself a democratic socialist.

Roosevelt's pitch, which he made in a State of the Union Address, called for acting on a number of rights that he said were generally accepted in the country, including the right to education, medical care, and a decent home, "regardless of station, race, or creed.”

In previewing Sanders' speech, his campaign said Wednesday that, "At a time of massive income and wealth inequality, Sanders believes, as did Roosevelt, that all Americans should have a right to a job with a living wage; health care; education; social security; housing and freedom from unfair competition and monopolies."

FULL story at link.


Bernie Sanders makes a point during a Democratic presidential primary debate on Nov. 14, 2015, in Des Moines, Iowa.
(Photo: Charlie Neibergall, AP)

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/11/18/sen-bernie-sanders-explain-his-embrace-democratic-socialism/75987572/

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Sen. Bernie Sanders to explain his democratic socialist views (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2015 OP
The sad truth is that most of our fellow Americans are FAR too brainwashed for democratic socialism forest444 Nov 2015 #1
^^this^^ Pharaoh Nov 2015 #2
But YOU were too clever, right? brooklynite Nov 2015 #10
yup Pharaoh Nov 2015 #11
And the sad part is SmittynMo Nov 2015 #13
Da brainwashing. forest444 Nov 2015 #22
I told everyone he was following in FDR's footprints Hydra Nov 2015 #3
entitled? trillion Nov 2015 #5
Entitled: "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment." Hydra Nov 2015 #8
ah, Hydra means the ultra-rich Wall Street, IT, and entertainment donors that the party's MisterP Nov 2015 #12
Third Way makes no mention of a public option or single payer. DhhD Nov 2015 #18
goog, will watch it if its accessible at a good time msongs Nov 2015 #4
Right now I'm dreaming of four terms of President Sanders... MoonchildCA Nov 2015 #6
We'll wake you up when it happens Hydra Nov 2015 #9
Apparently he's going to talk about foreign policy and Isis, too. pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #7
Not a bad article, and USA Today no less. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #14
I have read this several times. What I have not read is jwirr Nov 2015 #15
Thursday 2PM at Georgetown University. Links. Festivito Nov 2015 #17
Thank you. jwirr Nov 2015 #20
I'm going to remain a bit more optismic. Duckfan Nov 2015 #16
This is cool, I am happy more & more Americans can finally listen to Senator Sanders. Sunlei Nov 2015 #19
A second bill of rights sounds like a serious proposal. Let's give them a serious forum and 24601 Nov 2015 #21

forest444

(5,902 posts)
1. The sad truth is that most of our fellow Americans are FAR too brainwashed for democratic socialism
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:13 PM
Nov 2015

That said, I'm glad Bernie is being bold about it.

I expected nothing less from him.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
2. ^^this^^
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:21 PM
Nov 2015

yes, they have brainwashed us for many decades. Now we have a country full of morons ready to turn on each other rather than the system that enslaves them. Of course, you cannot see the chains if you don't know you are being enslaved.

brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
10. But YOU were too clever, right?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:32 AM
Nov 2015

This notion of "the voters are too stupid to vote my way" isn't a slogan I would recommend putting on a bumper sticker.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
13. And the sad part is
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:18 AM
Nov 2015

our fellow Americans are going to vote against their best interest. What scares me is they don't know it.

It pretty much comes down to one thing. Who do you TRUST? The answer is as plain as the nose on your face.

So why don't they understand this simple concept?

forest444

(5,902 posts)
22. Da brainwashing.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
Nov 2015

We're all been told from the time we're in preschool - sometimes in as many words, often times more subtly - that Socialists are people who want to take our homes, cars, savings, and Elvis plate collections, and give it to undeserving negroes and Mexicans.

Not all of us fall for it, of course; but they don't need it to be everyone - just a majority.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. I told everyone he was following in FDR's footprints
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:40 PM
Nov 2015

The question is, is the Third Way right? Were they able to convert our party of the people into the party of the entitled assholes?

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
5. entitled?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:06 AM
Nov 2015

Please explain. You sound like being entitled to have healthcare is a bad thing instead of what Europe calls a human right.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
8. Entitled: "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment."
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:12 AM
Nov 2015

Entitlement: "the fact of having a right to something."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
12. ah, Hydra means the ultra-rich Wall Street, IT, and entertainment donors that the party's
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:45 AM
Nov 2015

been handed over to

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
18. Third Way makes no mention of a public option or single payer.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.thirdway.org/issue/health-care


It is very important for Sanders to start explaining the difference between HRC's third way and FDR/BSanders democratic socialism; VERY important. Look through the Issues of the third way web site. In 1994, the Clinton's had to take down Hillarycare because third way was way too far to the Right for Progressive Democrats to accept. By 1998, the Clinton's had moved very Right in to the privatization that brought Hillarycare down.

pinstikfartherin

(500 posts)
7. Apparently he's going to talk about foreign policy and Isis, too.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:11 AM
Nov 2015

Per the release on his website, at least. I guess we will see some kind of hybrid speech?

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
14. Not a bad article, and USA Today no less.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:42 AM
Nov 2015

They did Bernie a favor mentioning him in the same breath as Franklin D. Roosevelt. That was pretty cool, because Bernie is the next FDR.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
17. Thursday 2PM at Georgetown University. Links.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:05 AM
Nov 2015
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is set to give a campaign-defining address on democratic socialism and expand on his national security platform at Georgetown University on Thursday.

The presidential candidate will deliver the 2 p.m.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260556-sanders-plans-speech-explaining-socialism

WP just leaves out what time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-to-deliver-much-awaited-speech-on-democratic-socialism-thursday/

NPR left out time. Said Sander's campaign would not respond to questions, so they called some (RW) professors to say what it was. (Would not dare to call Professor Wolfe!) One said he'd give Bernie an F if Bernie gave the response he imagined Bernie to say on one of his tests. Oh my!

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
16. I'm going to remain a bit more optismic.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:16 AM
Nov 2015

Though it is true a segment of our population votes against their own best interest. I'm hoping that number will drop the closer to February we get.

The larger number of tea-party types, will always vote against their own best interest because with tea-partiers, the light is on but nobody's home.

There is still time to get the message out and connect with voters of higher intelligence.

24601

(3,962 posts)
21. A second bill of rights sounds like a serious proposal. Let's give them a serious forum and
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:12 PM
Nov 2015

convene a Constitutional Convention. It leaves it to the States to propose and ratify changes. Neither the President nor Congress have any role in the convention process. I presume a state could appoint a sitting member, or even the President as one of their delegates, but that has nothing to do with their day jobs.

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