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COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:39 PM Nov 2015

Senators to propose legislation to restrict visa waivers for Europeans

Source: Hardball with Chris Matthews MSNBC

We just saw another example of Congress rushing in to introduce meaningless legislation in hopes of placating the nervous American public. Tonight on Hardball Republican Senator Jeff Flake said that he and Diane Feinstein will introduce a bill tomorrow which will modify the current visa waiver rule. (At present citizens of 39 countries - mostly European - are not now required to get a visa in order to travel to the US.). This new legislation would require any citizen of these countries who had travelled to Syria or Iraq in the past five years to now obtain a visa in order to travel to the U.S. Presumably this would let us examine people whose travel patterns made them suspect before permitting them to come here.

The only problem: Nothing prevents the potential 'suspect' traveller from declaring his/her old passport lost or stolen and obtaining a brand new, fresh passport. There is then no way to know whether the individual visited Iraq or Syria (or anywhere else). It's a meaningless, feel-good gesture designed to show the constituency that 'Congress is on top of things' when, in fact all it does it create more red tape and cost without contributing in any way, shape of form to our security. Business as usual for Congress.

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Senators to propose legislation to restrict visa waivers for Europeans (Original Post) COLGATE4 Nov 2015 OP
Link? CaptainTruth Nov 2015 #1
Visa rules are reciprically based. Start tampering them and we will lose freedom of movement as well newthinking Nov 2015 #2
Passed up a chance to visit a friend in Brazil Jake Stern Nov 2015 #3
Yes and thanks to changes made since 9/11, Americans now have to get visas to some sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #4
My wife and I had to do the same last year. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #6
The falls and Easter Island are on the list. Finishing up South America. sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #7
Wow Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #8
I don't think Feinstein cares 47of74 Nov 2015 #5

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
3. Passed up a chance to visit a friend in Brazil
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:48 PM
Nov 2015

because of reciprocity. The Houston consulate requires all applicants to appear in person which involves transportation, hotel and food. Another option is to use the services of a visa company which would add an additional $150+ to the steep $160 tourist visa fee.

While I understand that is like what Brazilians go through to get a US visa, Brazil is NOT worth that hassle.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
4. Yes and thanks to changes made since 9/11, Americans now have to get visas to some
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:44 AM
Nov 2015

South American countries. I just paid $160 to Brazil for a visa and a $160 'Reciprocity fee' to Argentina. Both admit these are payback for USA charging their citizens.

Ace Rothstein

(3,163 posts)
6. My wife and I had to do the same last year.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:52 AM
Nov 2015

Between visas and vaccinations, we spend over $1k.

I hope you aren't going to miss out on Iguazu Falls, they are impressive.

Ace Rothstein

(3,163 posts)
8. Wow
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:53 PM
Nov 2015

Sounds like a great trip. If you haven't already booked lodging and can swing the cost, staying at the Belmond hotel in the National Park on the Brazilian side of the falls is worth it.

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