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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:59 PM Nov 2015

Syrian Refugee Fight Sparks Government Shutdown Threat

Source: Politico

Lawmakers say they may try to attach restrictions to a must-pass spending bill, possibly provoking a showdown with the White House.

By Seung Min Kim , Jake Sherman and Burgess Everett
11/16/15 01:15 PM EST
Updated 11/16/15 05:11 PM EST

A cascade of Republicans on Monday implored the Obama administration to scrap plans to resettle 10,000 Syrian refugees in the United States next year, saying they pose an unacceptable security risk in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks in Paris.

And, in a dramatic twist, the sudden standoff is raising the possibility of a government shutdown next month.

Throughout the day a host of Republican governors around the country, wary that refugees could end up in their home states, blasted President Barack Obama’s plans. But those governors lack real sway over the process, and some are asking Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to insert a provision in the Dec. 11 spending bill that would bar more Syrian settlers.

The politics are moving fast: The Democratic governor of New Hampshire, a Senate candidate, is siding with conservatives, and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is reversing his support for a $1 billion spending bill intended to allow in more Syrian refugees after touting the measure just weeks ago. GOP leaders are keeping their options open as they mull whether to try and block new Syrian refugees by adding language to the must-pass spending bill.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/gop-lawmakers-syria-refugees-215936

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Syrian Refugee Fight Sparks Government Shutdown Threat (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2015 OP
The radical reich need to quit putting poison pills in "must pass legislation". Fuck them and their Vincardog Nov 2015 #1
the syrian mess is substantially the fault of those making US policy, and that includes repubs. msongs Nov 2015 #2
you're right + repukes wouldn't even discuss Syria and O's plan wordpix Nov 2015 #11
Let them look like the fools they are murielm99 Nov 2015 #3
No politician who is worried about getting re-elected will advocate taking in Muslim refugees now. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #5
Yes it would. People are still scared. 840high Nov 2015 #6
Politicians often act politicians. i just hope that liberals act like liberals. pampango Nov 2015 #10
"It will be interesting to see what our presidential candidates have to say" wordpix Nov 2015 #12
I don't want them to shoot themselves in the foot over this topic. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #13
"Be vague. Non commital." Perhaps a good short-term political strategy but not pampango Nov 2015 #14
On this topic, anything Dems say will be used in Republican TV ads for the next year. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #15
You're right. This is very dangerous politically. NonMetro Nov 2015 #19
Even though all the terrorists identified so far are European Nationals? Thor_MN Nov 2015 #20
That does not appear to be correct. branford Nov 2015 #21
SMH n/t DeadLetterOffice Nov 2015 #4
And..... Jeb Bartlet Nov 2015 #7
so fed up with these so and sos holding us hostage allan01 Nov 2015 #8
Geebus they are so controlled by there propaganda underpants Nov 2015 #9
Republican kneejerk fearmongers Sunlei Nov 2015 #16
I hope the President stands up to these GOP fucksticks. 47of74 Nov 2015 #17
"Home of the brave" my ass Maeve Nov 2015 #18

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
1. The radical reich need to quit putting poison pills in "must pass legislation". Fuck them and their
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

FEAR

msongs

(67,407 posts)
2. the syrian mess is substantially the fault of those making US policy, and that includes repubs.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

endless wars since 9/11 have unexpected consequences

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
11. you're right + repukes wouldn't even discuss Syria and O's plan
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:28 PM
Nov 2015

Obama and Dem leaders just about begged them to discuss and debate. I'm sure he wanted backing in what he thought best to do, or maybe hoped a better plan would emerge with more people involved. But repukes would not discuss. What a bunch of chickenhawk shits they are.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
3. Let them look like the fools they are
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:25 PM
Nov 2015

going into the election season. People are tired of the do-nothing attitude. Maybe a few of them will lose their elections.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
5. No politician who is worried about getting re-elected will advocate taking in Muslim refugees now.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:34 PM
Nov 2015

It would be political suicide. Those that are still for it will stay quiet until this receeds in memory a bit, or they aren't worried about re-election.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
10. Politicians often act politicians. i just hope that liberals act like liberals.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

It will be interesting to see what our presidential candidates have to say about Obama's plan to admit Syrian refugees.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
12. "It will be interesting to see what our presidential candidates have to say"
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:34 PM
Nov 2015

Yes it will. Dem candidates especially b/c the repugs are divided between the Rand Paul isolationist view and neocon blow-them-up attitude of the others. Then there's Trump. It will be interesting indeed to hear more from the R's but I don't think it'll be easy for them to come up with a foreign policy plank for their platform.

I look forward to Hilary vs. Bernie on this topic, for sure.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
13. I don't want them to shoot themselves in the foot over this topic.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:37 PM
Nov 2015

Be vague. Non commital. Whatever.

Do not open the door to a republican presidency over this.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
14. "Be vague. Non commital." Perhaps a good short-term political strategy but not
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

one we normally recommend to our candidates in countering what republicans are peddling.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
15. On this topic, anything Dems say will be used in Republican TV ads for the next year.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:03 PM
Nov 2015

To Bernie/Hillary: Just don't hand the republicans the ammunition to kill you with.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
19. You're right. This is very dangerous politically.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:21 PM
Nov 2015

Many Democrats seem to be pooh-poohing the fear that this has caused, and saying: oh that's just the right wing fear mongering, as usual. And yes, there is some of that, but what happened in Paris, and the renewed threats from ISIS is not right wing fear mongering. It cause for concern, and it's alarming. People are frightened, and they have good reason to be. Democrats should not just dismiss it as if their was no real basis for it, because there is.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
20. Even though all the terrorists identified so far are European Nationals?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:49 AM
Nov 2015

Not a "refugee" amongst them at this point.

Conservatives are shitting their britches over refugees, and they can't figure out the difference between a terrorist and a refugee.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
21. That does not appear to be correct.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:03 AM
Nov 2015

It appears at least one of the terrorists infiltrated Europe claiming to be a refugee with a forged Syrian passport.

People were afraid of infiltrators, including ISIS's threats to send agents with any refugees, before the attacks in Paris. The worst fears of many have now been confirmed, and the right-wing, both in Europe and elsewhere, will politically benefit.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/europe/paris-attacks-passports/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/authorities-confirm-one-of-the-paris-attackers-came-through-greece/2015/11/16/78b112fa-8c64-11e5-934c-a369c80822c2_story.html

Jeb Bartlet

(141 posts)
7. And.....
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

this is exactly he response the terrorists wanted, thanks Republicans for being so easily led down the garden path. /s

Seriously, Republicans (and you dumbass fucking blue dog Dems) start thinking like the lawmakers you are trying so desperately to convince people you are and stop reacting like the children you so often resemble. You're trying so hard to convince the public that you're the party that can lead and the first thing that even resembles a crisis and the entire lot of you pee yourselves like infants.

Here's a clue since the lot of you don't seem to have one. Allowing refugees into the country takes up to 18 months of people being vetted by law enforcement and intelligence agencies. The idea that a terrorist is going to wait 18 months and go through intense scrutiny to try to sneak into the country to carry out a terrorist attack is just mind numbingly STUPID.

Quite being so intentionally stupid Republicanism.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
8. so fed up with these so and sos holding us hostage
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:14 PM
Nov 2015

and throwing tempertantrums if they dont get their way. boo hoo

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
17. I hope the President stands up to these GOP fucksticks.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

And tells them that stuff with poison pills are DOA as far as he's concerned.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
18. "Home of the brave" my ass
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:14 PM
Nov 2015

Oooo, scary people! Gee, if there was just a seasonal story about migrants looking for a safe place to rest and being turned away....

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