Charlie Sheen's HIV status: new details emerge
Source: San Jose Mercury News
"Charlie Sheen will announce he's HIV positive in a TV interview Tuesday, according to TMZ.
The "Wall Street" actor will reportedly sit down with Matt Lauer on the "Today" show to discuss the details, NBC sources reportedly told the website".
Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_29124222/report-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Ugh..
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)And didn't modify his, uh.. behavior. THAT is what makes it particularly newsworthy.
still_one
(92,212 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)then he should be prosecuted.
patsimp
(915 posts)what a piece of crap if he did.
still_one
(92,212 posts)with your description of what he is also, but I thought that about him before this came out today
He has a history of abusing women
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)outing him. His status has apparently been something of an open secret for a while now, though, because it also came up in the leaked Sony emails
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Response to Hawaii Hiker (Original post)
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magical thyme
(14,881 posts)while exposing them to HIV?
Because apparently he did that to his ex-wife and with other women he was dating and/or that he hired.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)Magic found out when he was required to be tested as part of a contract he was going to sign with the Lakers.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I figured the answer would be something along those lines.
Unlike Sheen, who hid his condition (which is his right) and apparently deliberately and knowingly exposed multiple women, including his wife to HIV (which if not criminal, than should be).
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)Charlie Sheen kept his HIV status under wraps, but everything unraveled when some former partners threatened him with lawsuits ... TMZ has learned.
As we reported, Charlie will appear on "Today" and reveal he's HIV positive. We're told he's known about his status for more than a year and he kept a lid on the information.
We're told things changed when Charlie confided in several friends he thought were confidants ... it turned out they weren't, and spread the word he was HIV positive.
That led to several of Charlie's former partners contacting him and threatening a lawsuit because they were unaware of his status when they had interaction with him. Our sources say Charlie settled several of the cases and, in return for money, got confidentiality agreements.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/16/charlie-sheen-hiv-lawsuits-settlement/
potone
(1,701 posts)That's an interesting euphemism.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)why would a anyone assume he's disease free?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)I've had several good friends pass away (and one best friend, who died after we became estranged) from complications due to AIDS, and how many times I've wished they'd been able to hang on just a little bit longer.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Theyre still alive and for, the most part, thriving. Every one in a while most have to change their drug cocktail but its much better than in the 80s when so many were dying from it (including several really close friends).
2 of my best friends, a married gay couple, are a perfect illustration of how far theyve advanced - one of them is HIV positive, 20 years now, and his husband, who has been with him since he found out he was HIV positive, is HIV-free.
Somehow though, it would be a shame for this (Sheen) idiot to become the public face of such an awful disease. Cant stand the jerk. And if he gave it to others knowing his status, then he should rot in hell...i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. The couple I mentioned above...the guy who gave it to the positive partner KNEW he had it and wanted others to get it. I still cant wrap my head around the fact that people have actually done this. Selfish a$$h*l@$.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)because some gay people feel it "legitimizes" their sexual orientation. Google "bugchasing + Hiv".
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)My friends hipped me to that a while ago. I dont understand how that makes you any more gay. Watching my friend go through his last HIV cocktail change was heartbreaking, both in the evidence that his last protocol wasnt working anymore and his body adjusting to the new drugs. On top of that his T-Cells were devastated and the initial bloodwork in the new protocol showed the T-Cells not regenerating so they had to adjust it several times. My friend, one of my closest friends in the world and probably the only person I talk to every day besides my parents, was terrified he was going to die and I spent a lot of time trying to keep him upbeat.
Yes you can live with this but you wouldnt want to. I dont get the whole bug-chasing thing.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)pre-exposure prophylaxis therapy can be as highly effective in preventing infection as almost anything else, though it seems to be controversial - why, I'm not sure.
Do people have problems with the idea that people taking PreP pills are going to engage in sexual intercourse/activity? And if so, why are such people even being included in discussions about effective ways to prevent HIV infection? If someone isn't going to admit the fact that people are going to engage in mutually consensual sexual activity, sometimes risky and sometimes without knowing the HIV status of their partners, then how does that not disqualify that individual from STD counseling?
Anyway, glad to hear your friends are doing well.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)In the last year or so Ive read a few studies about how effective it is. I wonder if the controversy is nothing more than general homophobia? What I mean is, do they think if gay men (who have a much higher rate of infection than any other group) feel emboldened with PreP, then all teh gayz are gonna have hot butt secks? That is the ONLY reason I can think of. There is some sort of BS moralizing in there somewhere. Otherwise I dont get it.
Thank you for your kind wishes about my friends...theyre wonderful people who are ALWAYS there for me and I would be devastated if anything took them from me.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Guys think "I'm on PREP, I'm invincible" but they aren't.
PREP is amazing and substantially reduces HIV infections, I hope to see it continue to increase in use. But without a good understanding of all Std's/Sti's it isn't enough.
Ex Lurker
(3,814 posts)The drugs have side effects, often severe, and some people can't tolerate them. Sometimes they stop working altogether. As stated above, Magic Johnson is doing well, but he can afford state of the art care and an individualized treatment plan. I assume Sheen can too, but if he doesn't stop his wild lifestyle, it doesn't bode well for him. People thriving on HIV therapy are the ones who look after themselves. Sheen apparently isn't, still.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Of course, it's also illegal to not disclose if there's a risk of transmission.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)for his friends that he confided in, no.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Is there any type of loophole for medical professionals? For instance, if a medical professional knows the person who is HIV positive will give the disease to other people. Does the medical professional then have the right to tell someone that person is dating, or married to that the person is infected?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)other medical professionals on a need-to-know basis only.
Same is true of info around pregnancy. If a medical professional knows a baby is not the blood type of either the husband or wife, medical professional does not have a right to tell the husband that he is not the father.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,192 posts)They could report that he was being sued by former sex partners. Lawsuits are public record.
romanic
(2,841 posts)I'm honestly speechless by this whole thing and I rarely care about celebrity news.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)long enough to be prosecuted for infecting others.
yeah, not compassionate i know. but if he had unprotected sex knowing his status he is a reprehensible person
christx30
(6,241 posts)Compassion isn't always warranted. I'm in 100% with you.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)"indiscriminate niceness is overrated"
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Not telling prospective partners, however, is criminal. He should have kept it in his pants if he couldn't disclose.
marble falls
(57,097 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)I would think eating TB cultures like they were jello would be a comparatively wise decision.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)"Yeah, I know Charlie Sheen has a history of drug use and prostitutes, but I'm gonna screw him anyway."
BAD IDEA JEANS
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)and him being HIV positive never entered these women's minds...The fact is, he was playing Russian roulette with their lives, while the women were playing Russian roulette with the prospect of becoming pregnant by Sheen, and being set for life."
Why would it enter their minds? It isn't as though he was hiring common streetwalkers!
I've always wondered what happened to young Hollywood starlets who didn't move back home in defeat and didn't end up as strippers, in porn, or as common streetwalkers. Welcome to their world.
rocktivity
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Hahaha.
Renew Deal
(81,860 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)If you were looking to illustrate a "high risk lifestyle" this dude is it.
Renew Deal
(81,860 posts)I haven't had a chance to follow it yet. I was wondering if it was clear what got him. Very sad.
complain jane
(4,302 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)There's a morality play here somewhere.
Hawaii Hiker
(3,166 posts)not sex w/porn stars...
I mean, porn stars are making films all the time (mostly non condom) & there hasn't been a big outbreak of HIV in porn since the Darren James incident in 2004...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_James
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)But anyone who sleeps with a whole lot of people is at risk. Apparently he just rolled the dice until the inevitable happened.
I think porn stars get tested monthly. Any time there is an outbreak in the industry, they can catch it pretty quickly.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)I'm gonna pass.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I think I'll pass too.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)according to tmz of course...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Isn't it illegal not to tell a sexual partner that you know you are HIV postive?
christx30
(6,241 posts)Some states you could be sentenced to up to 25 years in prison for it.
http://projects.propublica.org/tables/penalties
Chakab
(1,727 posts)positive?
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I do not expect that Charlie Sheen would ever have to announce that he was HIV positive. However, this is another situation in which I should not be surprised. Actually, I was shocked, but I do not know why I was shocked that Charlie Sheen, of all people, is HIV positive. What I should be saying is how did I not see this coming. With the way that Sheen was living his life the only shocking thing about this situation should be the fact that Sheen has not been living with HIV for 10-20 years.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)A lot of people are infected for years before they know.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)People deserve some privacy about their health conditions.
I agree that if he knowingly and willfully exposed others to this risk, those individuals have an action against him, but let's face it, he's not going to show up in most of our beds.
christx30
(6,241 posts)As promiscuous as he is, if it's kept quiet, probably would be a person or two that wouldn't find out about it for 6 months or more, like if it were a non-celeb. This kind of news is going to destroy a lot of lives. The effected people should find out as soon as possible.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Yes, if he has been sleeping around without telling other people, it's good that it is publicized. Safer for everyone. Kind of like the "Beware the Dog" signs.
Sad that it needs to come to that but I guess it does.
Thanks for correcting me - my response was just stupid.
christx30
(6,241 posts)I just offered my own opinion. You have yours and that's obviously cool.
But you are right in that medical things need to stay private, or people won't trust doctors, and their medical problems will get worse.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I don't know how to make it clearer than that.
Yes, if publicizing this person's condition is necessary to protect others than his right to privacy is overridden by other persons' rights.
I genuinely am thanking you for pointing out quite decently that I was being, at best, thoughtless in my reaction to the situation. There are more people and more interests here than just his - apparently he is in denial.
And your point that he may have infected someone who doesn't even know and now will get tested is ENTIRELY to the point, which is why I used the word "entirely" in my response. The next person getting hurt may not even ever have made the decision to sleep with the man.
I don't do the sarcasm thing. I am very sorry that my response seemed sarcastic.
Francois9
(54 posts)Hollywood was rocked as it was revealed that an unnamed actor has been diagnosed with HIV, and now one of his past lovers has come forward and claimed that she is terrified what his diagnosis could mean.
The X-rated actress claims that the actor, who allegedly has a long list of exes, has slept with over 50 porn stars that she knows of in recent years and is concerned that the porn industry could be facing a HIV epidemic, according to a new report.
In an interview with Daily Mail Online, the porn star who has not been named revealed that she was recently tested and was given the all-clear, but she is concerned that several porn stars she knows have now disappeared off the scene after flings with the actor.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/porn-star-pregnant-hollywood-actor-6826031
Metric System
(6,048 posts)due to the medication he is taken. That is reprehensible and irresponsible.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)is meticulously following his complicated regimen of medications?
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)The male version of being "a little bit" pregnant.
Well, let's count our blessings -- he could have had the Ebola virus...
rocktivity
complain jane
(4,302 posts)And HIV never even crossed my mind.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Far too many young people have gotten lackadaisical about AIDS.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)
in order to get out of being sued (if not jailed) would be very much in character for him.
For the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge, he upped the donation ante from one hundred to ten thousand dollars, and challenged the television exec who fired him, the actor who replaced him, and the co-star who he feels betrayed him. That's payback, not paying it forward: I think he was more interested in making people he hated $30,000 poorer than helping ALS.
rocktivity
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)There should be legal consequences to this type of dangerous behavior.