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Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:52 PM Nov 2015

Charlie Sheen's HIV status: new details emerge

Source: San Jose Mercury News

"Charlie Sheen will announce he's HIV positive in a TV interview Tuesday, according to TMZ.

The "Wall Street" actor will reportedly sit down with Matt Lauer on the "Today" show to discuss the details, NBC sources reportedly told the website".

Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_29124222/report-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive

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Charlie Sheen's HIV status: new details emerge (Original Post) Hawaii Hiker Nov 2015 OP
It's sad how the media makes a circus out of someone's health status. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #1
Well evidently he's known he was HIV positive for several years philosslayer Nov 2015 #6
that is right. its actually criminal what the jerk allegedly did still_one Nov 2015 #9
If that is true, that he knowingly infected others, darkangel218 Nov 2015 #14
I hope he didn't have unprotected sex patsimp Nov 2015 #38
I think it is a pretty good bet it was unprotected. Hopefully, he didn't infect anyone, and I agree still_one Nov 2015 #40
worse, he is revealing it because the Naitonal Enquirer is publishing an article tishaLA Nov 2015 #11
That's awful. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #3
Did Magic keep his condition hidden from multiple sexual partners magical thyme Nov 2015 #17
Magic retired/announced it as soon as he found out DrToast Nov 2015 #47
it was a rhetorical question, in response to the now deleted post magical thyme Nov 2015 #71
So that's what "winning" means n/t MosheFeingold Nov 2015 #4
Not exactly a surprise. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #5
Winning Negative MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #7
"interaction"? potone Nov 2015 #10
Knowing his history TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #33
based on that- news cycle for 4 days to appease the sheeple :) snooper2 Nov 2015 #56
Shocking, but the drug treatment for it now has made it more manageable. closeupready Nov 2015 #8
I have several friends who have been HIV positive since the mid-90’s dorkzilla Nov 2015 #15
They do it lancer78 Nov 2015 #21
Unfortunately I know about this... dorkzilla Nov 2015 #23
It seems like from what I've been reading, closeupready Nov 2015 #22
I don’t know why there is any controversy - it seems to work! dorkzilla Nov 2015 #27
The thing I hear about PREP is... Agschmid Nov 2015 #35
It's still a non-trivial ordeal Ex Lurker Nov 2015 #16
I thought it was illegal to disclose someone's HIV status without their permission. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #12
only for medical professionals and any others bound by HIPAA regulations magical thyme Nov 2015 #20
Loophole for Medical Professionals? erpowers Nov 2015 #30
no. Medical professionals are barred from sharing private information with anybody other than magical thyme Nov 2015 #37
There are certainly ways around it TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #60
Whoa. romanic Nov 2015 #13
well i hope he stays in good health restorefreedom Nov 2015 #18
Don't beat yourself up. christx30 Nov 2015 #24
thx...as i heard once on a great episode of House, restorefreedom Nov 2015 #25
Sad for anybody, but not that surprising. He's been engaging in risky behavior for decades. Shrike47 Nov 2015 #19
Very sorry to hear he's gotten this very easily avoidable disease. I wish him nothing but the best. marble falls Nov 2015 #26
How fucking insane would you have to be to have sex with Charlie Sheen? Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2015 #28
Especially without a condom (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #29
Like a sequel to Bad Idea Jeans. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #31
Fade in... DrToast Nov 2015 #50
A source reportedly told the (National Enquirer): "Charlie hired escorts, rocktivity Nov 2015 #70
Thread winner! FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #48
Was it sex or drugs? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #51
Why not both? Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2015 #54
Good point Renew Deal Nov 2015 #55
LOL complain jane Nov 2015 #63
Screw porn stars for a hobby, get HIV. tabasco Nov 2015 #32
Perhaps he got the HIV from drug use Hawaii Hiker Nov 2015 #34
Porn stars are probably some of the safer people to screw - they get tested all the time. Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #45
Indeed DrToast Nov 2015 #49
Have at it, Doc. tabasco Nov 2015 #52
So you're only taking the risk that they caught something in the last 30 days. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #59
that what charlie thought, until he started giving euro coke addicts/pornstars 30k a night to fuck big_dog Nov 2015 #67
Could he be prosecuted for this? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #36
It is absoltely a crime. christx30 Nov 2015 #42
We're supposed to be surprised that a guy who has sex with porn stars on a regular basis is HIV Chakab Nov 2015 #39
Did Not See That Coming erpowers Nov 2015 #41
Maybe he has been. Unless he gets tested a lot .... Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #44
Why is this so public? Maybe because of impending legal action, but still ... Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #43
Personally, I'm glad it's public. christx30 Nov 2015 #57
Okay, you are entirely right and I was entirely wrong. Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #61
Not sure if sarcasm or... christx30 Nov 2015 #62
No, not sarcasm, I think you are quite right and I was wrong. Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #66
Porn star pregnant by Hollywood actor with HIV claims he had sex with 50 adult film stars Francois9 Nov 2015 #46
Apparently he didn't inform his sexual partners of his status because it's considered undetectable Metric System Nov 2015 #53
And should people trust that a wild partier like Charlie Sheen Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #58
He equated being undectable with being asymptomatic? rocktivity Nov 2015 #69
I'm shocked he's still alive. complain jane Nov 2015 #64
Maybe he can clean up his act and do some good in activism Marrah_G Nov 2015 #65
Unfortunately, claiming to be HIV free when he's only asymptomatic rocktivity Nov 2015 #72
Knowingly infecting others is a crime IronLionZion Nov 2015 #68
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
6. Well evidently he's known he was HIV positive for several years
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

And didn't modify his, uh.. behavior. THAT is what makes it particularly newsworthy.

still_one

(92,212 posts)
40. I think it is a pretty good bet it was unprotected. Hopefully, he didn't infect anyone, and I agree
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:34 PM
Nov 2015

with your description of what he is also, but I thought that about him before this came out today

He has a history of abusing women

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
11. worse, he is revealing it because the Naitonal Enquirer is publishing an article
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

outing him. His status has apparently been something of an open secret for a while now, though, because it also came up in the leaked Sony emails

Response to Hawaii Hiker (Original post)

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
17. Did Magic keep his condition hidden from multiple sexual partners
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:22 PM
Nov 2015

while exposing them to HIV?

Because apparently he did that to his ex-wife and with other women he was dating and/or that he hired.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
47. Magic retired/announced it as soon as he found out
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:47 PM
Nov 2015

Magic found out when he was required to be tested as part of a contract he was going to sign with the Lakers.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
71. it was a rhetorical question, in response to the now deleted post
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:43 AM
Nov 2015

I figured the answer would be something along those lines.

Unlike Sheen, who hid his condition (which is his right) and apparently deliberately and knowingly exposed multiple women, including his wife to HIV (which if not criminal, than should be).

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
7. Winning Negative
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:04 PM
Nov 2015
Charlie Sheen Threats of Lawsuits Unraveled HIV Secret

Charlie Sheen kept his HIV status under wraps, but everything unraveled when some former partners threatened him with lawsuits ... TMZ has learned.

As we reported, Charlie will appear on "Today" and reveal he's HIV positive. We're told he's known about his status for more than a year and he kept a lid on the information.

We're told things changed when Charlie confided in several friends he thought were confidants ... it turned out they weren't, and spread the word he was HIV positive.

That led to several of Charlie's former partners contacting him and threatening a lawsuit because they were unaware of his status when they had interaction with him. Our sources say Charlie settled several of the cases and, in return for money, got confidentiality agreements.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/16/charlie-sheen-hiv-lawsuits-settlement/
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. Shocking, but the drug treatment for it now has made it more manageable.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

I've had several good friends pass away (and one best friend, who died after we became estranged) from complications due to AIDS, and how many times I've wished they'd been able to hang on just a little bit longer.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
15. I have several friends who have been HIV positive since the mid-90’s
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:18 PM
Nov 2015

They’re still alive and for, the most part, thriving. Every one in a while most have to change their drug “cocktail” but it’s much better than in the 80’s when so many were dying from it (including several really close friends).

2 of my best friends, a married gay couple, are a perfect illustration of how far they’ve advanced - one of them is HIV positive, 20 years now, and his husband, who has been with him since he found out he was HIV positive, is HIV-free.

Somehow though, it would be a shame for this (Sheen) idiot to become the public face of such an awful disease. Can’t stand the jerk. And if he gave it to others knowing his status, then he should rot in hell...i wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. The couple I mentioned above...the guy who gave it to the positive partner KNEW he had it and wanted others to get it. I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that people have actually done this. Selfish a$$h*l@$.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
21. They do it
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:33 PM
Nov 2015

because some gay people feel it "legitimizes" their sexual orientation. Google "bugchasing + Hiv".

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
23. Unfortunately I know about this...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:40 PM
Nov 2015

My friends hipped me to that a while ago. I don’t understand how that makes you any more gay. Watching my friend go through his last HIV cocktail change was heartbreaking, both in the evidence that his last protocol wasn’t working anymore and his body adjusting to the new drugs. On top of that his T-Cells were devastated and the initial bloodwork in the new protocol showed the T-Cells not regenerating so they had to adjust it several times. My friend, one of my closest friends in the world and probably the only person I talk to every day besides my parents, was terrified he was going to die and I spent a lot of time trying to keep him upbeat.

Yes you can live with this but you wouldn’t want to. I don’t get the whole bug-chasing thing.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
22. It seems like from what I've been reading,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015

pre-exposure prophylaxis therapy can be as highly effective in preventing infection as almost anything else, though it seems to be controversial - why, I'm not sure.

Do people have problems with the idea that people taking PreP pills are going to engage in sexual intercourse/activity? And if so, why are such people even being included in discussions about effective ways to prevent HIV infection? If someone isn't going to admit the fact that people are going to engage in mutually consensual sexual activity, sometimes risky and sometimes without knowing the HIV status of their partners, then how does that not disqualify that individual from STD counseling?

Anyway, glad to hear your friends are doing well.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
27. I don’t know why there is any controversy - it seems to work!
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

In the last year or so I’ve read a few studies about how effective it is. I wonder if the “controversy” is nothing more than general homophobia? What I mean is, do they think if gay men (who have a much higher rate of infection than any other group) feel emboldened with PreP, then all teh gayz are gonna have hot butt secks? That is the ONLY reason I can think of. There is some sort of BS moralizing in there somewhere. Otherwise I don’t get it.

Thank you for your kind wishes about my friends...they’re wonderful people who are ALWAYS there for me and I would be devastated if anything took them from me.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
35. The thing I hear about PREP is...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:38 PM
Nov 2015

Guys think "I'm on PREP, I'm invincible" but they aren't.

PREP is amazing and substantially reduces HIV infections, I hope to see it continue to increase in use. But without a good understanding of all Std's/Sti's it isn't enough.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
16. It's still a non-trivial ordeal
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

The drugs have side effects, often severe, and some people can't tolerate them. Sometimes they stop working altogether. As stated above, Magic Johnson is doing well, but he can afford state of the art care and an individualized treatment plan. I assume Sheen can too, but if he doesn't stop his wild lifestyle, it doesn't bode well for him. People thriving on HIV therapy are the ones who look after themselves. Sheen apparently isn't, still.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
12. I thought it was illegal to disclose someone's HIV status without their permission.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:13 PM
Nov 2015

Of course, it's also illegal to not disclose if there's a risk of transmission.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
20. only for medical professionals and any others bound by HIPAA regulations
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

for his friends that he confided in, no.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
30. Loophole for Medical Professionals?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

Is there any type of loophole for medical professionals? For instance, if a medical professional knows the person who is HIV positive will give the disease to other people. Does the medical professional then have the right to tell someone that person is dating, or married to that the person is infected?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
37. no. Medical professionals are barred from sharing private information with anybody other than
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

other medical professionals on a need-to-know basis only.

Same is true of info around pregnancy. If a medical professional knows a baby is not the blood type of either the husband or wife, medical professional does not have a right to tell the husband that he is not the father.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
60. There are certainly ways around it
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:22 PM
Nov 2015

They could report that he was being sued by former sex partners. Lawsuits are public record.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
18. well i hope he stays in good health
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:22 PM
Nov 2015

long enough to be prosecuted for infecting others.

yeah, not compassionate i know. but if he had unprotected sex knowing his status he is a reprehensible person

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
19. Sad for anybody, but not that surprising. He's been engaging in risky behavior for decades.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:22 PM
Nov 2015

Not telling prospective partners, however, is criminal. He should have kept it in his pants if he couldn't disclose.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
28. How fucking insane would you have to be to have sex with Charlie Sheen?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

I would think eating TB cultures like they were jello would be a comparatively wise decision.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
50. Fade in...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:54 PM
Nov 2015

"Yeah, I know Charlie Sheen has a history of drug use and prostitutes, but I'm gonna screw him anyway."

BAD IDEA JEANS

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
70. A source reportedly told the (National Enquirer): "Charlie hired escorts,
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:18 AM
Nov 2015
and him being HIV positive never entered these women's minds...The fact is, he was playing Russian roulette with their lives, while the women were playing Russian roulette with the prospect of becoming pregnant by Sheen, and being set for life."

Why would it enter their minds? It isn't as though he was hiring common streetwalkers!

I've always wondered what happened to young Hollywood starlets who didn't move back home in defeat and didn't end up as strippers, in porn, or as common streetwalkers. Welcome to their world.


rocktivity

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
55. Good point
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:27 PM
Nov 2015

I haven't had a chance to follow it yet. I was wondering if it was clear what got him. Very sad.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
34. Perhaps he got the HIV from drug use
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:25 PM
Nov 2015

not sex w/porn stars...

I mean, porn stars are making films all the time (mostly non condom) & there hasn't been a big outbreak of HIV in porn since the Darren James incident in 2004...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_James

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
45. Porn stars are probably some of the safer people to screw - they get tested all the time.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:16 PM
Nov 2015

But anyone who sleeps with a whole lot of people is at risk. Apparently he just rolled the dice until the inevitable happened.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
49. Indeed
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

I think porn stars get tested monthly. Any time there is an outbreak in the industry, they can catch it pretty quickly.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
59. So you're only taking the risk that they caught something in the last 30 days.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015

I think I'll pass too.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
67. that what charlie thought, until he started giving euro coke addicts/pornstars 30k a night to fuck
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:46 PM
Nov 2015

according to tmz of course...

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
36. Could he be prosecuted for this?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:44 PM
Nov 2015

Isn't it illegal not to tell a sexual partner that you know you are HIV postive?

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
39. We're supposed to be surprised that a guy who has sex with porn stars on a regular basis is HIV
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:31 PM
Nov 2015

positive?

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
41. Did Not See That Coming
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:08 PM
Nov 2015

I do not expect that Charlie Sheen would ever have to announce that he was HIV positive. However, this is another situation in which I should not be surprised. Actually, I was shocked, but I do not know why I was shocked that Charlie Sheen, of all people, is HIV positive. What I should be saying is how did I not see this coming. With the way that Sheen was living his life the only shocking thing about this situation should be the fact that Sheen has not been living with HIV for 10-20 years.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
44. Maybe he has been. Unless he gets tested a lot ....
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:14 PM
Nov 2015

A lot of people are infected for years before they know.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
43. Why is this so public? Maybe because of impending legal action, but still ...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:13 PM
Nov 2015

People deserve some privacy about their health conditions.

I agree that if he knowingly and willfully exposed others to this risk, those individuals have an action against him, but let's face it, he's not going to show up in most of our beds.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
57. Personally, I'm glad it's public.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:45 PM
Nov 2015

As promiscuous as he is, if it's kept quiet, probably would be a person or two that wouldn't find out about it for 6 months or more, like if it were a non-celeb. This kind of news is going to destroy a lot of lives. The effected people should find out as soon as possible.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
61. Okay, you are entirely right and I was entirely wrong.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:35 PM
Nov 2015

Yes, if he has been sleeping around without telling other people, it's good that it is publicized. Safer for everyone. Kind of like the "Beware the Dog" signs.

Sad that it needs to come to that but I guess it does.

Thanks for correcting me - my response was just stupid.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
62. Not sure if sarcasm or...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:47 PM
Nov 2015

I just offered my own opinion. You have yours and that's obviously cool.
But you are right in that medical things need to stay private, or people won't trust doctors, and their medical problems will get worse.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
66. No, not sarcasm, I think you are quite right and I was wrong.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:01 PM
Nov 2015

I don't know how to make it clearer than that.

Yes, if publicizing this person's condition is necessary to protect others than his right to privacy is overridden by other persons' rights.

I genuinely am thanking you for pointing out quite decently that I was being, at best, thoughtless in my reaction to the situation. There are more people and more interests here than just his - apparently he is in denial.

And your point that he may have infected someone who doesn't even know and now will get tested is ENTIRELY to the point, which is why I used the word "entirely" in my response. The next person getting hurt may not even ever have made the decision to sleep with the man.

I don't do the sarcasm thing. I am very sorry that my response seemed sarcastic.

 

Francois9

(54 posts)
46. Porn star pregnant by Hollywood actor with HIV claims he had sex with 50 adult film stars
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:46 PM
Nov 2015

Hollywood was rocked as it was revealed that an unnamed actor has been diagnosed with HIV, and now one of his past lovers has come forward and claimed that she is terrified what his diagnosis could mean.

The X-rated actress claims that the actor, who allegedly has a long list of exes, has slept with over 50 porn stars that she knows of in recent years and is concerned that the porn industry could be facing a “HIV epidemic”, according to a new report.

In an interview with Daily Mail Online, the porn star – who has not been named – revealed that she was recently tested and was given the all-clear, but she is concerned that several porn stars she knows have now disappeared off the scene after flings with the actor.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/porn-star-pregnant-hollywood-actor-6826031

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
53. Apparently he didn't inform his sexual partners of his status because it's considered undetectable
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:17 PM
Nov 2015

due to the medication he is taken. That is reprehensible and irresponsible.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
58. And should people trust that a wild partier like Charlie Sheen
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:47 PM
Nov 2015

is meticulously following his complicated regimen of medications?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
69. He equated being undectable with being asymptomatic?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:32 AM
Nov 2015

The male version of being "a little bit" pregnant.

Well, let's count our blessings -- he could have had the Ebola virus...


rocktivity

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
65. Maybe he can clean up his act and do some good in activism
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:57 PM
Nov 2015

Far too many young people have gotten lackadaisical about AIDS.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
72. Unfortunately, claiming to be HIV free when he's only asymptomatic
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:22 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

in order to get out of being sued (if not jailed) would be very much in character for him.

For the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge, he upped the donation ante from one hundred to ten thousand dollars, and challenged the television exec who fired him, the actor who replaced him, and the co-star who he feels betrayed him. That's payback, not paying it forward: I think he was more interested in making people he hated $30,000 poorer than helping ALS.


rocktivity

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
68. Knowingly infecting others is a crime
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:49 PM
Nov 2015

There should be legal consequences to this type of dangerous behavior.

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