Trump says he would consider closing certain mosques

[jpak]

Source: Washington Post

NEWARK, N.J. — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says he would strongly consider closing mosques with radical leadership because of the Paris attacks.

Trump told MSNBC on Monday that the government should increase surveillance in and around mosques.

He also tells CNBC that it’s time for Americans to reconsider some civil liberties in light of the Paris attacks.

Trump said at a weekend rally that things would have turned out differently had the victims of the attacks been armed. He repeated that assertion Monday.

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[louis-t]

1. Scary.

President Adolph Trump. Has a nice ring to it.

[riversedge]

12. He is a dangerous man.

[patsimp]

18. If people are being radicalized in certain mosques, what would you do about it?

[niyad]

27. you mean, like people being radicalized in the reichwing xian churches to kill abortion

providers, amoung other things?

[patsimp]

38. Please show me a Christian country that has

death for blasphemy (Pakistan)
death to Israel (Iran)
death for robbery (Saudi Arabi and most other Arab nations).

that's a lot of only a few radicals.

and those Xian churches should be shut down.


I probably shouldn't have to say this, but I'm talking about the twenty-first century and NOT the 1200s.

[niyad]

42. and so am I. the refusal to acknowledge what the reichwing xians in this country are doing,

promoting, saying, is dishonest, to say the very least.

[patsimp]

48. as far as i know

the mainstream Christian Churches are not promoting suicide bombers or demanding conversion or death of apostates. In fact, I believe Christians can change religions and not be sentenced to death.

there appears to be a false equivalency here.

I condemn strongly reichwing xians who are more preaching white supremacy than the teachings of a religion. Also, please show me where in the Bible it says that Xians should be racist?

[LanternWaste]

46. You deftly moved the goalposts from radicalization to federal laws predicated on radicalization.

You deftly moved your initial goalpost from radicalization to federal laws predicated on radicalization.

[niyad]

62. typical tactic when one points out that there isn't a great deal of difference between any of the

fundamentalist belief systems.

[closeupready]

31. Like xtian pastors in Arizona demanding the death penalty for gay people?

Yes, that's very disturbing, but not sure what anyone CAN do about it, if you respect our system of laws/democracy.

[patsimp]

39. I'm pretty disturbed by them and something should be done about that

Hate speech should not be tax payer protected.

Heck - if I say something on this board i'll have my posts hidden (CENSURED).

[LannyDeVaney]

50. Again, in the US?

I wasn't aware of a sudden onslaught of hate speech from Muslims in this country. Maybe you're thinking about Christians?

[patsimp]

60. interesting that you would mention Christians. Is there a problem there?

[LannyDeVaney]

49. In the US?

I wasn't aware we had a sudden onslaught of radicalized Muslims in the US. Maybe you're thinking of radicalized Christians?

[treestar]

54. Infiltrate

and for that we need Arabic speaking friends. There are such people.

[TeamPooka]

2. Republicans hate the Constitution. nt

[starroute]

16. They hate us for our freedom.

(Somebody had to say it.)

[get the red out]

58. Well

If they read it they would.

[TeamPooka]

61. lol

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

3. Maybe the Mosque of the Westboro Baptists

That's a radical sect!

[Botany]

4. The 1st amendment makes that illegal

Trump-Olini!

[kimbutgar]

11. The resemblance between these two are kind of scary.

Reincarnation maybe?

[Botany]

14. If you get a chance watch a video of Mussolini and Trump speaking w/the sound off

They both strut around like banty roosters

[kimbutgar]

15. Ha ha good one.

Trump has that strut down cold and he is a cocky bastard.

[yardwork]

20. It's an apt comparison. Trump often says fascist things.

[dbackjon]

5. The only part of the Constitutuion sacred to the GOP is the 2nd Amendment

They want to destroy the rest.

[Botany]

6. It seems pretty clear to me

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right
of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances. 1st amendment

[brooklynite]

32. Doesn't say anything about President Trump...

[StevieM]

51. They do support the supposed 1st Amendment rights of billionaires to buy an election

with unlimited spending.

[dbackjon]

55. True

[Aristus]

7. "If you don't give up your civil rights, the terrorists win!"

Wow. Scary shit, man...

[The CCC]

8. Trump says he would consider closing certain mosques

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 - 1790)

[kimbutgar]

9. I think some evangelical churches should also be closed because they don't preach the words of Jesus

But push the Republican Party agenda which conflicts with Jesus saying " feed the poor, heal the sick and be thy brothers keeper".

[merrily]

10. There goes one of the few remaining provisions of the Bill of Rights.

[Sunlei]

13. Republicans don't want Freedom of Religion in America?

[jwirr]

19. This country was founded on freedom of religion. That does

not exclude Islam. The same could be said about the so called Christian churches that are now calling for violence against others in our country. In fact it probably would solve more of our problems to deal with them.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. Better would be to close Trump's mouth

!!

[mnhtnbb]

28. Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner!

[closeupready]

30. Ha! Good one.

[patricia92243]

22. If the victims had been armed, there would be more dead people because they would have

shot each other.

[Android3.14]

23. In other words, he lifted his hand and screamed "Heil Hitler!"

What a jerk.

[Gothmog]

24. Trump is an idiot and a bigot

[Glimmer of Hope]

25. Bigot! The same for any other members of the circus who do not call

him out on this!

[Francois9]

26. Increase surveillance around mosques?

From the article:

Trump told MSNBC on Monday that the government should increase surveillance in and around mosques.

This is being done in France, for good reason.

[mac56]

40. And Trump is running for President of France now?

Not sure where you're going with this.

[Francois9]

45. That is a very strange question.

I am not sure where you are going with it. Please explain.

[mac56]

52. Don't play dodgeball with me, buddy.

Explain what you mean by your statement, and then I bet you'll understand what I mean with mine.

[Francois9]

56. Or what?

What do you intend to do about it?

[mac56]

57. I just did it.

[mnhtnbb]

29. France and the US have different Constitutional views of religious freedom

Last edited Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:12 PM - Edit history (1)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_France

[Francois9]

33. Insightful comment!!!!

You even have a quote from Wikipedia to prove it!!

Brilliant, incisive thinking! I guess that proves that the US should not conduct surveillance of those mosques where Islamic fundamentalist crazies hang out!!!! What a good point!!!!!

[Skittles]

43. let me guess

you think everyone should be armed

and you do realize that Trump is too stupid to know he would not have that power, right?

[LanternWaste]

47. No greater nor no less insightful to what you yourself have provided

No greater nor no less insightful to what you yourself have provided for us in this exchange.

Though no doubt, your presumptive distinction lacking any relevant difference soon to follow will be just as brilliant and incisive in thought...

[Marrah_G]

34. He is too stupid to understand the Pres does not have that power.

[Oneironaut]

35. This guy is like Hitler, but dumber

That's why I don't even want Trump to win the primary, even if it helps the Democratic winner win. Even the prospect of this man being President is horrible.

It wouldn't just be Trump. It would be the endless supply of brown shirts who have been lusting for blood for years that he would inspire.

That Trump even said this means that he's unfit to hold any public office.

[november3rd]

36. He wouldn't have the right

Even as President, he wouldn't have the right to close a mosque.

[spiderpig]

37. Of course he would n/t

[Dawson Leery]

41. This is why he is the top choice for the GOP.

Facsist.

[Matariki]

44. "it’s time for Americans to reconsider some civil liberties in light of the Paris attacks"

[treestar]

53. The First Amendment called

What an idiot.

That's not an option for any President at any time and never will be.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

59. Trump is free to close any mosque that he owns. nt