Islamic State vows to 'strike America at its center in Washington' in new video
Last edited Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)
Source: The Guardian
Islamic State has warned in a new video that countries taking part in airstrikes against Syria would suffer the same fate as France, and threatened to attack in Washington.
The video, which appeared on a site used by Islamic State to post its messages, begins with news footage of the aftermath of Fridays Paris shootings in which at least 129 people were killed.
The message to countries involved in what it called the crusader campaign was delivered by a man dressed in fatigues and a turban, and identified in subtitles as Al Ghareeb the Algerian.
We say to the states that take part in the crusader campaign that, by God, you will have a day, God willing, like Frances and by God, as we struck France in the centre of its abode in Paris, then we swear that we will strike America at its center in Washington, the man said.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/16/islamic-state-video-threatens-attacks-washington-dc
Original OP:
Paris attacks: Isis threatens strike on Washington in 'new video' live
The Islamic State group has released what appears to be a new propaganda video, warning of an attack in Washington.
The video begins with some news footage from Fridays attacks in Paris, and warns of an attack on the US capital.
In the film, a fighter says any country participating in air strikes would also be targeted in a similar manner as France.
It was released via a website typically used by the group to distribute its films, but its authenticity has not been verified.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/16/paris-attacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Good sign, they'll also get sloppy.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)These barbarians need to be stopped.
patsimp
(915 posts)It will happen unless we stop it.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)But not go overboard with fear and make the situation worse by locking up (or worse) anyone that looks ISIS-ey.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)I think it's possible to swing the pendulum too far in either direction.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Glad I'm not the one having to make any decisions on this clusterfuck.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)ISIL and their ilk are like cancer. It's hard to stop them once they're metastasizing.
We need to stop selling advanced weapons throughout the neighborhood. THAT is wrong and even if our allies are tried and true, which some like Qatar are not (Qatar supports Hamas will million$ each year), these weapons can end up in ISIL's hands just like our advanced tanks and other hardware did.
But of course, the MICC (add Congressional to MIC) has to do its business to get rich quick. Some heads should f'ing roll.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)so long as it's white people doing it
Calista241
(5,586 posts)It'll be weeks of news coverage on Obama's failure. Hillary will have to all but conquer the Middle East to prove she's tough on terror.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)There are police and special forces all over the Mall, and after the Russian jet and France bombings, there will be more and they'll be on high alert. I used to go by the Mall a lot on my previous job. I wouldn't even try to make a turn around there where it's not allowed. You'll be surrounded immediately. I once needed to drive the reverse way and I pulled into a police-blocked street to turn around---the blockade was several feet in. A cop came right over to see what I was up to, and he wasn't fooling around or shooting the breeze.
apnu
(8,756 posts)The land they control is a shit hole now. A shit hole they made worse not better. People have been fleeing it daily. 60% population in that area of the world is gone compared to the number prior to their rise. They have no idea how to rule the land they've taken and provide basic services, like water and energy. They're running out of fresh bodies for suicide attacks and, I suspect, the propaganda mill they run is running out of ink. They've got a hermit kingdom on their hands and there isn't any great rush of people wanting to get in. The regime there has made it very clear they have no intentions of ruling the area. They're a doomsday cult, they think the world will end tomorrow and there's no point in investing for the future.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)The problem comes with those who want to die.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)A handful of guys with automatic weapons in crowded places.
PSPS
(13,599 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)patsimp
(915 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I think you mistake my meaning. Sure they could do an attack here. But they won't like the response they get in return.
Mind you, I am not for us going to war. I think it's time for the armies in the Middle East to step up.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Time for them to step up.
christx30
(6,241 posts)will never step up, unless they are directly threatened. Jordan is just about the only country that will do a thing.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Except the Kurds, the Kurds know they are literally fighting for their lives.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Since they've lived under the US shadow for so long since WWII, maybe they think we'll protect them. There may also be old restrictions on their building armies and such. Not at all expert in this, but Europe needs to realize "Big Daddy US" can't do it all for them.
The Saudis have stepped up but I don't know to what degree
patsimp
(915 posts)an attack on us is AN ATTACK on us.
I'm not sure why so many apologise for the anger, fear and loathing we feel. Those islamist radicals are actually acting on it, while some of us are so outraged that we voice it
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Not knowing the differences and just giving in to anger fear and loathing without thought is a huge part of the problem.
Al' Qaeda and ISIS actually hate each other. AQ is also called al Nusra Front is Syria.
Edit: I am angry and heartbroken over Paris too, but in times like these we need to keep a clear head and react with logic and not anger/fear/revenge.
patsimp
(915 posts)by hitting us harder and causing more death and destruction.
One of those organizations destroyed our towers, the other is causing death by the 100s of thousands. I'm not sure where you think the relevant different is.
In fact, isis sprang out of the actions of bin Laden's acts of warfare but went further. Bush the idiot enabled isis by creating chaos in Iraq which led to the chaos in Syria.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Also we have to remember that the people being killed the most by these groups are Muslims. If we become fearful, fear breeds hate and hate breeds violence.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)That's a fact
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)You make it sound like they would be expecting something else. Or that we have a surprise for them that they never saw coming. They want a fight.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I'm just not quite sure they understand how devastating our military can be if it goes all in.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts)....but I'd say the drive on Baghdad in 2003 which involved over 100,000 US troops + tanks and paratroop drops.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Definitions change with time. That might be the modern day version of America going all in. With a volunteer military, and rules of war to follow and all that.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)angrychair
(8,699 posts)Crap. Military action is great as long as you don't have any skin in game. Will you be running down to your nearest recruitment office to sign up?
Secondly, the bulk of our military is designed to fight wars on two major fronts, against actual nations. Not autonomous blobs that exist several places, that create two heads for every head you cut off.
These fights will be won from behind a computer screen. Attack their communications, attack their funding, attack their ability to organize. Win the hearts and minds of the communities around them with aid and medicine. Make these communities happy, safe and self-sufficient. Make the snake oil they are selling not in the people's best interest.
You don't need an aircraft carrier to do that.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Human history just hasn't been littered with coming out on top by winning hearts and minds.
angrychair
(8,699 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:55 AM - Edit history (1)
Wasn't directed at you. Price I pay for using my phone to write a lot in DU, small phone, fat fingers. Lol...we are good.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I do have "skin in the game" you automatically think that having a discussion about it means that I want to see us go to war. I do not. I have marched against the wars while my brother was in Iraq. I would march again, even if my son were to go.
What I think we should do and what I think we WILL do are two different things. I also know that if they do terrorist attacks here that there will be retribution, hard and fast.
We have the best military in the world, at the expense of many other more important things, so if you think they won't hesitate to use it, then all I can tell you is that I think you are wrong.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)G. W. BUSH as President to say...."bring it on".
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)"Think about the repug alternative. It could be much worse."
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)n/t
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)IS needs their help.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)now. And they NEVER offer reasonable alternatives.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Sometimes you gotta fight.