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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:33 AM Nov 2015

Islamic State vows to 'strike America at its center in Washington' in new video

Last edited Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Guardian

Islamic State has warned in a new video that countries taking part in airstrikes against Syria would suffer the same fate as France, and threatened to attack in Washington.

The video, which appeared on a site used by Islamic State to post its messages, begins with news footage of the aftermath of Friday’s Paris shootings in which at least 129 people were killed.

The message to countries involved in what it called the “crusader campaign” was delivered by a man dressed in fatigues and a turban, and identified in subtitles as Al Ghareeb the Algerian.

“We say to the states that take part in the crusader campaign that, by God, you will have a day, God willing, like France’s and by God, as we struck France in the centre of its abode in Paris, then we swear that we will strike America at its center in Washington,” the man said.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/16/islamic-state-video-threatens-attacks-washington-dc



Original OP:

Paris attacks: Isis threatens strike on Washington in 'new video' – live

The Islamic State group has released what appears to be a new propaganda video, warning of an attack in Washington.

The video begins with some news footage from Friday’s attacks in Paris, and warns of an attack on the US capital.

In the film, a fighter says any country participating in air strikes would also be targeted in a similar manner as France.

It was released via a website typically used by the group to distribute its films, but its authenticity has not been verified.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/16/paris-attacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live
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Islamic State vows to 'strike America at its center in Washington' in new video (Original Post) Turborama Nov 2015 OP
Oh, they are getting cocky now... Helen Borg Nov 2015 #1
I hope so MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #2
I would take their threat seriously patsimp Nov 2015 #5
Of course we should take it seriously. MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #9
Better a hundred should die than one innocent be detained? Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #19
Oh, I agree. MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #20
Yeah, I hear that. [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #21
US should stop selling advanced weapons throughout ME wordpix Nov 2015 #38
Unfortunately, pulling out a gun and shooting people allows for a lot of sloppiness... brooklynite Nov 2015 #27
that already happens regularly in the USA, America is pretty much okay with it geek tragedy Nov 2015 #30
Just wait until it happens on the National Mall or at the Lincoln Memorial. Calista241 Nov 2015 #34
they can't get in for this horrible scenario wordpix Nov 2015 #39
Or desperate apnu Nov 2015 #32
don't try it, assholes, there's LOTS of security wordpix Nov 2015 #41
These were not sophisticated attacks. Drahthaardogs Nov 2015 #46
Gee, you'd almost thing there was an election coming up. Oh, wait... PSPS Nov 2015 #3
That would be the stupidest thing they could try. Marrah_G Nov 2015 #4
Like attacking the twin towers, the Boston Marathon and Paris twice? patsimp Nov 2015 #6
Isis was not behind the twin towers or Boston Marrah_G Nov 2015 #8
Yup. MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #10
The countries over there christx30 Nov 2015 #14
Sadly that does seem the case. Marrah_G Nov 2015 #15
Europe needs to step up big time wordpix Nov 2015 #43
I don't differentiate between ISIs and al queda or any other islamist terrorist patsimp Nov 2015 #16
There is a difference. Marrah_G Nov 2015 #17
Good point - they hate each other - but they hate us more - and they want to get closer together patsimp Nov 2015 #18
I just believe it is important to equate actions to the correct people Marrah_G Nov 2015 #23
Good post, thank you uppityperson Nov 2015 #26
don't forget ISIS began as al-Qaeda in Iraq wordpix Nov 2015 #42
"But they won't like the response they get in return." The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #24
I think they do want a fight Marrah_G Nov 2015 #25
When was the last time the US military went all in? The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #28
Depends on how you define that... EX500rider Nov 2015 #29
It does depend on how it's defined The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #35
shock and awe, that was a display of firepower wordpix Nov 2015 #40
Hate that "chest pounding" angrychair Nov 2015 #31
I'm not chest pounding The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #36
Sorry 2nd wheel angrychair Nov 2015 #37
It's not chest pounding, it's reality, even if I hate it Marrah_G Nov 2015 #47
I AM SO GLAD WE DON'T HAVE A yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #7
Thank goodness we have someone more thoughtful in charge. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2015 #12
Hope we don't get a Trump or a Cruz! Helen Borg Nov 2015 #33
when certain friends say what a disappointment O is, my response is, wordpix Nov 2015 #44
Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #11
Republicans will be safe. Turbineguy Nov 2015 #13
the frickin R's refused to even debate Syria policy - f them for their critiques wordpix Nov 2015 #45
It might happen, to be sure...all the more reason to keep hitting them hard alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #22

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
9. Of course we should take it seriously.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:13 AM
Nov 2015

But not go overboard with fear and make the situation worse by locking up (or worse) anyone that looks ISIS-ey.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
19. Better a hundred should die than one innocent be detained?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

I think it's possible to swing the pendulum too far in either direction.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
38. US should stop selling advanced weapons throughout ME
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:49 PM
Nov 2015

ISIL and their ilk are like cancer. It's hard to stop them once they're metastasizing.

We need to stop selling advanced weapons throughout the neighborhood. THAT is wrong and even if our allies are tried and true, which some like Qatar are not (Qatar supports Hamas will million$ each year), these weapons can end up in ISIL's hands just like our advanced tanks and other hardware did.

But of course, the MICC (add Congressional to MIC) has to do its business to get rich quick. Some heads should f'ing roll.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
30. that already happens regularly in the USA, America is pretty much okay with it
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:11 PM
Nov 2015

so long as it's white people doing it

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
34. Just wait until it happens on the National Mall or at the Lincoln Memorial.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

It'll be weeks of news coverage on Obama's failure. Hillary will have to all but conquer the Middle East to prove she's tough on terror.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
39. they can't get in for this horrible scenario
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

There are police and special forces all over the Mall, and after the Russian jet and France bombings, there will be more and they'll be on high alert. I used to go by the Mall a lot on my previous job. I wouldn't even try to make a turn around there where it's not allowed. You'll be surrounded immediately. I once needed to drive the reverse way and I pulled into a police-blocked street to turn around---the blockade was several feet in. A cop came right over to see what I was up to, and he wasn't fooling around or shooting the breeze.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
32. Or desperate
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:37 PM
Nov 2015

The land they control is a shit hole now. A shit hole they made worse not better. People have been fleeing it daily. 60% population in that area of the world is gone compared to the number prior to their rise. They have no idea how to rule the land they've taken and provide basic services, like water and energy. They're running out of fresh bodies for suicide attacks and, I suspect, the propaganda mill they run is running out of ink. They've got a hermit kingdom on their hands and there isn't any great rush of people wanting to get in. The regime there has made it very clear they have no intentions of ruling the area. They're a doomsday cult, they think the world will end tomorrow and there's no point in investing for the future.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
8. Isis was not behind the twin towers or Boston
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:04 AM
Nov 2015

I think you mistake my meaning. Sure they could do an attack here. But they won't like the response they get in return.

Mind you, I am not for us going to war. I think it's time for the armies in the Middle East to step up.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
14. The countries over there
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Nov 2015

will never step up, unless they are directly threatened. Jordan is just about the only country that will do a thing.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
15. Sadly that does seem the case.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:27 PM
Nov 2015

Except the Kurds, the Kurds know they are literally fighting for their lives.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
43. Europe needs to step up big time
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:20 PM
Nov 2015

Since they've lived under the US shadow for so long since WWII, maybe they think we'll protect them. There may also be old restrictions on their building armies and such. Not at all expert in this, but Europe needs to realize "Big Daddy US" can't do it all for them.

The Saudis have stepped up but I don't know to what degree

patsimp

(915 posts)
16. I don't differentiate between ISIs and al queda or any other islamist terrorist
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:35 PM
Nov 2015

an attack on us is AN ATTACK on us.

I'm not sure why so many apologise for the anger, fear and loathing we feel. Those islamist radicals are actually acting on it, while some of us are so outraged that we voice it

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
17. There is a difference.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:41 PM
Nov 2015

Not knowing the differences and just giving in to anger fear and loathing without thought is a huge part of the problem.

Al' Qaeda and ISIS actually hate each other. AQ is also called al Nusra Front is Syria.

Edit: I am angry and heartbroken over Paris too, but in times like these we need to keep a clear head and react with logic and not anger/fear/revenge.

patsimp

(915 posts)
18. Good point - they hate each other - but they hate us more - and they want to get closer together
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:49 PM
Nov 2015

by hitting us harder and causing more death and destruction.

One of those organizations destroyed our towers, the other is causing death by the 100s of thousands. I'm not sure where you think the relevant different is.

In fact, isis sprang out of the actions of bin Laden's acts of warfare but went further. Bush the idiot enabled isis by creating chaos in Iraq which led to the chaos in Syria.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
23. I just believe it is important to equate actions to the correct people
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:05 PM
Nov 2015

Also we have to remember that the people being killed the most by these groups are Muslims. If we become fearful, fear breeds hate and hate breeds violence.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
24. "But they won't like the response they get in return."
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:33 PM
Nov 2015

You make it sound like they would be expecting something else. Or that we have a surprise for them that they never saw coming. They want a fight.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
25. I think they do want a fight
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:40 PM
Nov 2015

I'm just not quite sure they understand how devastating our military can be if it goes all in.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
29. Depends on how you define that...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:08 PM
Nov 2015

....but I'd say the drive on Baghdad in 2003 which involved over 100,000 US troops + tanks and paratroop drops.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
35. It does depend on how it's defined
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:05 PM
Nov 2015

Definitions change with time. That might be the modern day version of America going all in. With a volunteer military, and rules of war to follow and all that.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
31. Hate that "chest pounding"
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:16 PM
Nov 2015

Crap. Military action is great as long as you don't have any skin in game. Will you be running down to your nearest recruitment office to sign up?
Secondly, the bulk of our military is designed to fight wars on two major fronts, against actual nations. Not autonomous blobs that exist several places, that create two heads for every head you cut off.
These fights will be won from behind a computer screen. Attack their communications, attack their funding, attack their ability to organize. Win the hearts and minds of the communities around them with aid and medicine. Make these communities happy, safe and self-sufficient. Make the snake oil they are selling not in the people's best interest.
You don't need an aircraft carrier to do that.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
36. I'm not chest pounding
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:12 PM
Nov 2015

Human history just hasn't been littered with coming out on top by winning hearts and minds.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
37. Sorry 2nd wheel
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:27 PM
Nov 2015

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Wasn't directed at you. Price I pay for using my phone to write a lot in DU, small phone, fat fingers. Lol...we are good.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
47. It's not chest pounding, it's reality, even if I hate it
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:54 PM
Nov 2015

I do have "skin in the game" you automatically think that having a discussion about it means that I want to see us go to war. I do not. I have marched against the wars while my brother was in Iraq. I would march again, even if my son were to go.

What I think we should do and what I think we WILL do are two different things. I also know that if they do terrorist attacks here that there will be retribution, hard and fast.

We have the best military in the world, at the expense of many other more important things, so if you think they won't hesitate to use it, then all I can tell you is that I think you are wrong.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
44. when certain friends say what a disappointment O is, my response is,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:22 PM
Nov 2015

"Think about the repug alternative. It could be much worse."

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
45. the frickin R's refused to even debate Syria policy - f them for their critiques
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:23 PM
Nov 2015

now. And they NEVER offer reasonable alternatives.

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