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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:11 PM Nov 2015

DNR checking alleged 'herding' of deer back to Walter Palmer's Minnesota land

Source: Star Tribune

Allegations of illegal tactics during this current deer hunting season involving land owned by Dr. Walter Palmer in western Minnesota are under investigation by state enforcement officials.

A senior conservation officer with the state Department of Natural Resources (DNR) said Thursday that allegations have been leveled of illegal “herding” of deer by pickup trucks that is sending the animals back onto land owned near Barnesville by Palmer, the Bloomington dentist who created an international uproar when he killed the beloved lion Cecil this summer in Zimbabwe.

“We will talk to everybody involved and decide whether or not a violation has occurred,” said Maj. Greg Salo, operations manager for the DNR. “It’s too early to speculate on the circumstances.”

Salo said that if the allegations hold up, such acts are against the law.

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Read more: http://www.startribune.com/dnr-investigating-alleged-herding-of-deer-on-walter-palmer-s-minnesota-land/346713882/

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DNR checking alleged 'herding' of deer back to Walter Palmer's Minnesota land (Original Post) jpak Nov 2015 OP
How much you bet he gets away with this too? montanacowboy Nov 2015 #1
Can't he just go by the rules? get the red out Nov 2015 #2
It would be really hard to herd deer truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #3
Hence the allegations ToxMarz Nov 2015 #10
People in rural areas of Minnesota don't like to be known as snitches truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #13
Many people in rural Minnesota don't appreciate folks from the Cities buying land and not playing by Brickbat Nov 2015 #14
Still, apparently, someone has already snitched. ToxMarz Nov 2015 #19
when is this fucker going to pay the penalty for his crimes? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #4
It is who you know and not what the Rule of Law is Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #5
Great...are they also tying the deer to trees and painting targets on them? Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #6
what kind of bozo can't find deer on his own in rural minnesota? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #7
Exactly my thought! yardwork Nov 2015 #25
900 hundred acres of prime whitail habitat GusBob Nov 2015 #27
deer hunting season? guess all the shooting on his land scares off the 'good ones'.hes a bad shot. Sunlei Nov 2015 #8
The Minnesota DNR (Department of Natural Resources) is NOT an organization... bvar22 Nov 2015 #9
+1 azurnoir Nov 2015 #12
Yep. Brickbat Nov 2015 #15
Tremendous news! So good to hear it. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #21
Walter is a proven poacher and illegal hunter, he's not going to change. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #11
He's scum. It will all catch up with him, eventually. AzDar Nov 2015 #16
This man (using the term loosely) has quite an urge to kill Doremus Nov 2015 #17
++++++++++++++ swilton Nov 2015 #20
Just put a few dozen salt blocks out on the property Calista241 Nov 2015 #18
The guy is a jerk but this story sounds kinda sketchy GusBob Nov 2015 #22
It sounds sketchy because you yourself do not know how to herd deer with a truck? LanternWaste Nov 2015 #23
Those are fair questions GusBob Nov 2015 #26
That guy is such a piece of work. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #24

montanacowboy

(6,089 posts)
1. How much you bet he gets away with this too?
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:19 PM
Nov 2015

He just won't quit and he will keep his shit up until he is stopped.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
13. People in rural areas of Minnesota don't like to be known as snitches
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:20 PM
Nov 2015

I have a home in deep rural southeastern Minnesota and there's a meth head who is on probation who broke the law for more than a year, flagrantly (he kept pit bulls when he wasn't supposed to have dogs, let them run without a leash and they attacked neighbors dogs repeatedly, and he drank until blotto when he was supposed to remain sober) and nobody did anything until he threatened to kill someone and his dog bit one of the neighbors on his side in the excitement.

Point being, it might be very hard to get his neighbors to actually identify themselves in a complaint or in court, so the DNR might have to directly catch someone doing this "herding". And now that the news is out... seems unlikely to me.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
14. Many people in rural Minnesota don't appreciate folks from the Cities buying land and not playing by
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:27 PM
Nov 2015

the rules. If you read the article you'll find that these actions have been going on for some time, and the person who reported it was happy to be named.

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
19. Still, apparently, someone has already snitched.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

They must not care what the drunk meth dealers with Pitt Bulls think.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
4. when is this fucker going to pay the penalty for his crimes?
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:37 PM
Nov 2015

and who is he paying off to hide his crimes?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. It is who you know and not what the Rule of Law is
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:38 PM
Nov 2015

in certain areas of Western Minnesota. Hey,it's mine and you can not have any,nothing new .

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
27. 900 hundred acres of prime whitail habitat
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

There could be up to 50 deer per square mile on that land. He must be a shitty hunter

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. deer hunting season? guess all the shooting on his land scares off the 'good ones'.hes a bad shot.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:01 PM
Nov 2015

He only wounded that Lion otherwise he wouldn't have been caught as a canned (fake)hunter.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. The Minnesota DNR (Department of Natural Resources) is NOT an organization...
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:13 PM
Nov 2015

...to fool with. They are dead serious about protecting their wild lands and natural resources.
IF this asshole was herding deer with pick ups, and the Minnesota DNR is on his case,
they won't let go.

It is amazing the job they do......and they come out of nowhere.
You can watch the sun rise over a pristine lake way off the beaten track, throw out your line,
and within a few minutes, a DNR Game Warden will just appear to check you license, equipment, and catch. These guys are good....and very serious.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
17. This man (using the term loosely) has quite an urge to kill
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:43 PM
Nov 2015

Makes me wonder what (or who) he'd be targeting if there weren't any 4 legged beasts around.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
18. Just put a few dozen salt blocks out on the property
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 06:28 PM
Nov 2015

And you'll have more deer than you could possibly dream of.

It's illegal, and it's less conspicuous than a herd of fucking pick up trucks.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
22. The guy is a jerk but this story sounds kinda sketchy
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:15 AM
Nov 2015

Sounds like a turf war between neighboring hunters. Hence the "ongoing issue" and personal animosity quotes

Not too uncommon for neighboring hunters to bicker over deer or anything

I don't know how you are gonna herd deer with pick ups around 900 acres...they will just wait til dark to cross the road

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. It sounds sketchy because you yourself do not know how to herd deer with a truck?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:43 PM
Nov 2015

It sounds sketchy because you yourself do not know how to herd deer with a truck, or are there specific and relevant issues (i.e., particular points not pre-qualified with a "sounds like..." or a "seems to me...) that are are invalid?

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
26. Those are fair questions
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:20 PM
Nov 2015

Without boring you with blah blah blah....I have hunted deer in the Midwest for going on 50 years and have seen and heard of all kinds of shenanigans ( once my tree stand was destroyed by a rival landowner--the whole tree cut down on my property) ....also have read dozens of books publications and periodicals on hunting,and deer management , including the memoirs of game wardens .

To your questions I admit to speculation. I have never heard of herding with trucks ( hey a pun on words). It would be difficult. How are you going to know when the deer are crossing off the property?

As to specific relevant issues: 2 quotes from the story from DNR reps
1. "it's too early to speculate" lol maybe I should heed that!
2. " kind of an ongoing issue" leads me to believe this is a range war between the 2 neighbors. 10 years running and no citations. The DNR knows he is bad seed they will nail him

I think other nefarious activities are highly likely: road hunting ( illegal) , poaching, or most likely hunter harassment . Hunter harassment is getting to be a big problem....the other hunters are not so much herding the deer towards their land, but away from where the hunters were sitting. This has happened to me before as recently as 2 seasons ago.

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