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bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 07:34 PM Nov 2015

New York sends cease-and-desist notices to DraftKings, FanDuel

Source: ESPN

New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman declared Tuesday that daily fantasy sports constitutes illegal gambling in his state and sent game operators DraftKings and FanDuel cease-and-desist notices in a significant blow to the embattled billion-dollar industry.

Schneiderman demanded DraftKings and FanDuel, the two industry giants, stop accepting "wagers" from New York residents and discontinue operations in the state.

"Our review concludes that DraftKings'/FanDuel's operations constitute illegal gambling under New York law," Schneiderman wrote in the letter, obtained by ESPN's David Purdum and Darren Rovell, and ABC News.

During their rampant growth, daily fantasy sites have pointed to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 in regard to their legality and have claimed they offer games of skill. But Schneiderman found that "each DraftKings/FanDuel wager represents a wager on a 'contest of chance' where winning or losing depends on numerous elements of chance to a 'material degree.'"

Read more: http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14100780/newyork-attorney-general-declares-daily-fantasy-sports-gambling

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New York sends cease-and-desist notices to DraftKings, FanDuel (Original Post) bluedigger Nov 2015 OP
fantastic use of law enforcement resources nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #1
Next move: get rid of those dumb-fuck commercials. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #2
This is what I was thinking. JackRiddler Nov 2015 #14
And all the pop-up windows spam too. n/t tabasco Nov 2015 #17
Great. I hate fantasy any sport. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #3
I hate a lot of things. christx30 Nov 2015 #4
Tell that to the state of NY. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #6
So I assume he also wants to ban the state lottery? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #5
Essentially the same logic...nt Earth_First Nov 2015 #7
Amazing, isn't it? truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #8
Naaa. Because the state of New York christx30 Nov 2015 #9
"Games of skill": the last refuge of someone running an illegal casino jmowreader Nov 2015 #10
Now that the NY AG is involved SwankyXomb Nov 2015 #11
I find it ironic since MLB, like all the other leagues, is a non-profit apnu Nov 2015 #12
The NY AG is protecting the big casino interests in NY Yavin4 Nov 2015 #13
Personally, I think many are missing the real point. closeupready Nov 2015 #15
IOW, make fantasy sports legal, but regulate them like hell. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #16
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
14. This is what I was thinking.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

These are pungent, loud and insulting (because so incredibly stupid).

I wish Schneiderman had made a precedent by prosecuting these companies not for gambling, but for fraudulent advertising. At no point do they mention odds, or how much gets paid in to produce the supposed weekly payout. Everyone's just making a million on a $10 bet, or whatever bullshit they're saying.

These ads are not just stupid but very clearly pitched to working the stupid (who are indispensable to the business model).

Of course, if they went after the private sector for doing this, they'd have to admit what a scam the state-run lottery is. They're running equally penetrating and stupid ads all the damn time. It's an interesting contrast, all the state/city moralistic lifestyle ads (be polite, don't eat fatty foods, be watchful for terrorism, protect yourself, avoid frottage on the subway, blah blah) combined with the Lotto ads from the same government: "Oh yeah, when you get that quarter billion you can say FUCK YOU to everyone and act like the dumbest most corrupt asshole and get away with it because money -- fuck yeah!"

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. Naaa. Because the state of New York
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:45 PM
Nov 2015

gets money from that kind of gambling. They don't get any money from FanDuel. That's the only difference.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
10. "Games of skill": the last refuge of someone running an illegal casino
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:22 PM
Nov 2015

You'll love this: Up the road a piece from me is a tribal casino. They run, as all tribal casinos do, under a gaming compact with the state. Theirs says, in no uncertain terms, No Table Games. Only machine games are allowed.

In 2014, they built a poker room at their casino.

When the state took them to court to shut down the poker room (which was accomplished; there is no poker room out there now), the tribe claimed poker was a game of skill.

In the instant case...haven't these assholes ever thought about buying a couple of congressmen, like the beer companies do? They're pretty cheap nowadays and do come in handy.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
11. Now that the NY AG is involved
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:37 PM
Nov 2015

the people that should be worried are the professional leagues headquartered in New York, including Major League Baseball, which owns a big chunk of DraftKings.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
12. I find it ironic since MLB, like all the other leagues, is a non-profit
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:46 AM
Nov 2015

And yet they're hip deep in gambling?

Don't worry tho. Sports rules almost every level of American life. If MLB and the NFL are this deep into these new fantasy gambling rackets, they will stay. These leagues have the clout and the money to make anything they desire happen.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
13. The NY AG is protecting the big casino interests in NY
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:55 PM
Nov 2015

NY has 20 casinos in the state, and these fantasy sports sites are a direct threat to them. Why go out to some remote location to gamble when you can do so directly from your home or place of work?

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
15. Personally, I think many are missing the real point.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:04 PM
Nov 2015

Schneiderman is likely going after them not because they compete with B&M casinos here (there aren't that many to begin with), but rather, in the aftermath of the discovery that fantasy sports personnel have been betting and winning big on competing fantasy sports sites.

It smells like cheating, and while the investigations are still ongoing, it seems like he's probably seen quite enough to know that this is exactly what's going on - small-time bettors are getting fleeced.

As I have said before, I think people should be able to spend their money on entertainment as they see fit, including a flutter online every now and then, but it has to be fair, and this is not.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
16. IOW, make fantasy sports legal, but regulate them like hell.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:01 PM
Nov 2015

Just like what is done for casinos, lotteries, OTB racing, etc.

Right now, FanDuel, DraftKings, etc. operate with a loophole in the gaming laws indicating that somehow what they do and promote isn't really gambling but games of skill.

Bullshit.

If they want to do business in NY, they will have to be regulated and taxed, just like the rest of the gambling games.

Close the damn loophole.






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