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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:02 PM Nov 2015

Sotomayor rips Supreme Court for letting cops get away with a ‘shoot first, think later’ approach t

Source: raw story




Tom Boggioni

09 Nov 2015 at 13:14 ET



In a powerfully written dissent, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor criticized the thinking of some of her fellow justices after the court dismissed a case involving a police officer fatally shooting a fleeing suspect in Texas.

According to Sotomayor, it was a case of “shoot first, think later.”

On Monday, the court dismissed a case involving the 2010 shooting death of Israel Leija, Jr. during a high speed police chase in Texas, reports NBC News.

During the chase — at speeds up to 110 miles per hour — Leija repeatedly called police on his cellphone and warned them that he had a gun and would shoot police officers if they failed to call off the pursuit.

After police set up tire spikes to slow down the car, State Trooper Chadrin Mullenix of the Texas Department of Public Safety decided to disable the car by shooting at it, but was told by his supervisor to stand by to see if the spikes worked first.

Mullenix disregarded his instructions and fired at the speeding car from an overpass, causing the driver to lose control and the vehicle to roll over before reaching the spikes. An autopsy revealed that four of the six shots Mullenix fired at the car had hit Leija instead, killing him.

According to an unsigned opinion from the court, the doctrine of police immunity in shootings protects “all but the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law,” and that the use of deadly force during a dangerous car chase has never previously been held to be a constitutional violation..................

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/sotomayor-rips-supreme-court-for-letting-cops-get-away-with-a-shoot-first-think-later-approach-to-violence/

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Sotomayor rips Supreme Court for letting cops get away with a ‘shoot first, think later’ approach t (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
Sotomayor appears to have far more operating brain cells.... blackspade Nov 2015 #1
Note that Sotamayor was the lone dissent. branford Nov 2015 #7
Sotomayor points out the other police had a definite plan to stop the car non-lethally muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #11
Good point about the vote count. I'm afraid I have a different Hortensis Nov 2015 #17
Here is the actual opinion, this is a "Qualified Immunity Case' happyslug Nov 2015 #2
If the US is going to be a free country Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #3
Start with having the police departments Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #4
Yes..yes..yes diverdownjt Nov 2015 #5
It's interesting houston16revival Nov 2015 #6
Note that Ginsberg and Kagan, the other two women on the court, branford Nov 2015 #8
WTF! avaistheone1 Nov 2015 #16
She's very right. patsimp Nov 2015 #9
k+r Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #10
"An autopsy revealed that four of the six shots Mullenix fired at the car had hit Leija instead, kil greiner3 Nov 2015 #12
It was a 8-1 decision. former9thward Nov 2015 #13
Sonia Sotomayer has once again proven that she is the best Justice on the Court since Marshall (eom) StevieM Nov 2015 #14
+1000 mountain grammy Nov 2015 #15

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
1. Sotomayor appears to have far more operating brain cells....
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:13 PM
Nov 2015

than most members of the court.

what a terrible ruling.
That fucking cop murdered that guy against the orders of his supervisor....because he could.
Just like all the rest of the gang in blue.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
7. Note that Sotamayor was the lone dissent.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:16 AM
Nov 2015

The other three liberals, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan, despite their very progressive criminal justice views, did not join Sotomayor's dissent, resulting in a an effective 8-1 per curiam opinion. Regardless of whether you like the decision, under long-established precedent approved by both liberals and conservatives on the court, this case wasn't even close.

There was absolutely no doubt that the decedent presented a serious, clear and present danger to the police and innocents, and stopping the driver with potentially lethal force only after an 18 minute high-speed chase with quite explicit threats against the officers hardly constitutes "shoot first, ask questions later," as suggested by Sotomayor, no less murder, and it was quite astonishing that the qualified immunity case needed to be resolved the Supreme Court. I believe some members of the 5th Circuit and Sotomayor probably wanted to change the law, but 8 out of 9 members of the Supreme Court (and the dissenting lower court justices) felt very differently.

In light of the facts of the case, I'm also confident that the outcome will be met with approval by the vast majority of Americans citizens from across the political spectrum.

If you're looking for cases to criticize the police and point-out abuses, this most certainly is a poor choice.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
11. Sotomayor points out the other police had a definite plan to stop the car non-lethally
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:54 PM
Nov 2015

with the spikes. This officer planned to use deadly force, and ignored what fellow officers were doing, and ignored the order to stand by.

I am amazed that this wasn't an open and shut case of illegal homicide.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Good point about the vote count. I'm afraid I have a different
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 02:08 PM
Nov 2015

view about the rights of police to kill before less lethal and sufficiently safe alternatives are tried. This would be described in anyone else as acting, at best, with "depraved indifference" to life and at worst as murder.

"Scalia went even further, explaining that he “would not describe what occurred here as the application of deadly force in effecting an arrest” because Mullenix, despite shooting six bullets at the car as it passed beneath him, did not clearly intend to kill Leija. To prove his point, Scalia cites a hypothetical straight out of Looney Tunes:

It does not assist analysis to refer to all use of force that happens to kill the arrestee as the application of deadly force. The police might, for example, attempt to stop a fleeing felon’s car by felling a large tree across the road; if they drop the tree too late, so that it crushes the car and its occupant, I would not call that the application of deadly force. Though it was force sufficient to kill, it was not applied with the object of harming the body of the felon."


Definition: Depraved-heart murder is the form of murder that establishes that the willful doing of a dangerous and reckless act with wanton indifference to the consequences and perils involved, is just as blameworthy, and just as worthy of punishment, when the harmful result ensues, as is the express intent to kill itself.
 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
2. Here is the actual opinion, this is a "Qualified Immunity Case'
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:28 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-1143_f20h.pdf

First the Court's comment on 'Qualified Immunity":

The doctrine of qualified immunity shields officials from civil liability so long as their conduct “‘does not violate clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known.’” Pearson v. Callahan, 555 U. S. 223, 231 (2009) (quoting Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 457 U. S. 800, 818 (1982)). A clearly established right is one that is “sufficiently clear that every reasonable official would have understood that what he is doing violates that right.” Reichle v. Howards, 566 U. S. ___, ___ (2012) (slip op., at 5) (internal quotation marks and alteration omitted). “We do not require a case directly on point, but existing precedent must have placed the statutory or constitutional question beyond debate.”Ashcroft v. al-Kidd, 563 U. S. 731, 741 (2011). Put simply,qualified immunity protects “all but the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law.” Malley v. Briggs, 475 U. S. 335, 341 (1986).

“We have repeatedly told courts . . . not to define clearly established law at a high level of generality.” al-Kidd, supra, at 742. The dispositive question is “whether the violative nature of particular conduct is clearly established.” Ibid. (emphasis added). This inquiry “‘must be undertaken in light of the specific context of the case, not as a broad general proposition.’” Brosseau v. Haugen, 543 U. S. 194, 198 (2004) (per curiam) (quoting Saucier v. Katz, 533 U. S. 194, 201 (2001)). Such specificity is especially important in the Fourth Amendment context, where the Court has recognized that “it is sometimes difficult for an officer to determine how the relevant legal doctrine, here excessive force, will apply to the factual situation the officer confronts.” 533 U. S., at 205.

In this case, the Fifth Circuit held that Mullenix violated the clearly established rule that a police officer may not “‘use deadly force against a fleeing felon who does not pose a sufficient threat of harm to the officer or others.’” 773 F. 3d, at 725. Yet this Court has previously considered—and rejected—almost that exact formulation of the qualified immunity question in the Fourth Amendment context.

In Brosseau, which also involved the shooting of a suspect fleeing by car, the Ninth Circuit denied qualified immunity on the ground that the officer had violated the clearly established rule, set forth in Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U. S. 1 (1985), that “deadly force is only permissible where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others.” Haugen v. Brosseau, 339 F. 3d 857, 873 (CA9 2003) (internal quotation marks omitted). This Court summarily reversed, holding that use of Garner’s “general” test for excessive force was “mistaken.”Brosseau, 543 U. S., at 199. The correct inquiry, the Court explained, was whether it was clearly established that the Fourth Amendment prohibited the officer’s conduct in the “‘situation [she] confronted’: whether to shoot a disturbed felon, set on avoiding capture through vehicular flight, when persons in the immediate area are at risk from that flight.” Id., at 199–200. The Court considered three court of appeals cases discussed by the parties, noted that “this area is one in which the result depends very much on the facts of each case,” and concluded that the officer was entitled to qualified immunity because “[n]one of [the cases] squarely governs the case here.” Id., at 201 (emphasis added).


Here is her dissent;

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, dissenting.

Chadrin Mullenix fired six rounds in the dark at a car traveling 85 miles per hour. He did so without any training in that tactic, against the wait order of his superior officer, and less than a second before the car hit spike strips deployed to stop it. Mullenix’s rogue conduct killed the driver, Israel Leija, Jr. Because it was clearly established under the Fourth Amendment that an officer in Mullenix’s position should not have fired the shots, I respectfully dissent from the grant of summary reversal.

I
Resolving all factual disputes in favor of plaintiffs, as the Court must on a motion for summary judgment, Mullenix knew the following facts before he shot at Leija’s engine block: Leija had led police officers on an 18-minute car chase, at speeds ranging from 85 to 110 miles per hour. 773 F. 3d 712, 716 (CA5 2014). Leija had twice called the police dispatcher threatening to shoot at officers if they did not cease the pursuit. Ibid. Police officers were deploying three sets of spike strips in order to stop Leija’s flight. Ibid. The officers were trained to stop a car using spike strips. This training included how to take a defensive position to minimize the risk of danger from the target car. Ibid. Mullenix knew that spike strips were being set up directly beneath the overpass where he was stationed. Id., at 723. There is no evidence below that any of the officers with whom Mullenix was in communication— including Officer Troy Ducheneaux, whom Mullenix believed to be below the overpass—had expressed any concern for their safety. Id., at 720.

Mullenix had no training in shooting to disable a moving vehicle and had never seen the tactic done before. Id., at 716. He also lacked permission to take the shots: When Mullenix relayed his plan to his superior officer, Robert Byrd, Byrd responded “stand by” and “see if the spikes
work first.” Id., at 716–717. Three minutes after arriving at the overpass, Mullenix fired six rounds at Leija’s car. None hit the car’s engine block; at least four struck Leija in the upper body, killing Leija. Id., at 717.

II
When confronting a claim of qualified immunity, a court asks two questions. First, the court considers whether the officer in fact violated a constitutional right. Saucier v. Katz, 533 U. S. 194, 201 (2001). Second, the court asks whether the contours of the right were “sufficiently clear that a reasonable official would [have understood] that what he is doing violates that right.” Id., at 202 (quoting Anderson v. Creighton, 483 U. S. 635, 640 (1987)). This Court has rejected the idea that “an official action is protected by qualified immunity unless the very action in question has previously been held unlawful.” Id., at 640.

Instead, the crux of the qualified immunity test is whether officers have “fair notice” that they are acting unconstitutionally. Hope v. Pelzer, 536 U. S. 730, 739 (2002). Respondents here allege that Mullenix violated the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition on unreasonable seizures by using deadly force to apprehend Leija. This Court’s precedents clearly establish that the Fourth Amendment is violated unless the “‘governmental interests’” in effectuating a particular kind of seizure outweigh the “‘nature and quality of the intrusion on the individual’s Fourth

Cite as: 577 U. S. ____ (2015) 3 SOTOMAYOR, J., dissenting Amendment interests.’” Scott v. Harris, 550 U. S. 372, 383 (2007) (quoting United States v. Place, 462 U. S. 696, 703 (1983)). There must be a “governmental interest”not only in effectuating a seizure, but also in “how [the seizure] is carried out.” Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U. S. 1, 8 (1985).

Balancing a particular governmental interest in the use of deadly force against the intrusion occasioned by the use of that force is inherently a fact-specific inquiry, not susceptible to bright lines. But it is clearly established that the government must have some interest in using deadly force over other kinds of force. Here, then, the clearly established legal question—the question a reasonable officer would have asked—is whether, under all the circumstances as known to Mullenix, there was a governmental interest in shooting at the car rather than waiting for it to run over spike strips.

The majority does not point to any such interest here. It claims that Mullenix’s goal was not merely to stop the car, but to stop the car “in a manner that avoided the risks” of relying on spike strips. Ante, at 9. But there is no evidence in the record that shooting at Leija’s engine block would stop the car in such a manner. The majority first suggests that Mullenix did not wait for the results of the spikes, as his superior advised, because of his concern for the officers manning the strips. But Leija was going to come upon those officers whether or not Mullenix’s shooting tactic was successful: Mullenix took his shot when Leija was between 25 and 30 yards away from the spike strip, traveling at 85 miles per hour. Even if his shots hit Leija’s engine block, the car would not have stopped instantly. Mullenix would have bought the officers he was trying to protect—officers who had been trained to take defensive positions—less than three quarters of a second over waiting for the spike strips. And whatever threat Leija posed after his car was stopped existed whether the car was stopped by a shot to the engine block or by the spike strips. Nor was there any evidence that shooting at the car was more reliable than the spike strips. The majority notes that spike strips are fallible. Ante, at 8–9. But Mullenix had no information to suggest that shooting to disable a car had a higher success rate, much less that doing so with no training and at night was more likely to succeed.

Moreover, not only did officers have training in setting up the spike strips, but they had also placed two backup strips further north along the highway in case the first set failed. A reasonable officer could not have thought that shooting would stop the car with less danger or greater certainty than waiting.

The majority cites Long v. Slaton, 508 F. 3d 576 (CA11 2007), for the proposition that Mullenix need not have “first tried less lethal methods, such as spike strips.” Ante, at 11. But in that case, there was a clear reason to prefer deadly force over the alternatives. In Long, an officer fired to stop a suspect from fleeing in a stolen police cruiser. 508 F. 3d, at 583. When the officer fired, there were no alternative means of stopping the car in place. The Eleventh Circuit held that the governmental interest against waiting for a future deployment of spike strips that may never materialize justified the use of deadly force. Ibid.

In this case, by contrast, neither petitioner nor the majority can point to any possible marginal gain in shooting at the car over using the spike strips already in place. It is clearly established that there must be some governmental interest that necessitates deadly force, even if it is not always clearly established what level of governmental interest is sufficient. Under the circumstances known to him at the time, Mullenix puts forth no plausible reason to choose shooting at Leija’s engine block over waiting for the results of the spike strips. I would thus hold that Mullenix violated Leija’s clearly established right to be free of intrusion absent some governmental interest.

III

The majority largely evades this key legal question by focusing primarily on the governmental interest in whether the car should be stopped rather than the dispositive question of how the car should be stopped. But even assuming that Leija posed a “sufficient,” ante, at 8, or “immediate,”ante, at 7, threat, Mullenix did not face a “choice between two evils” of shooting at a suspect’s car or letting him go. Scott, 550 U. S., at 384; see, e.g., Plumhoff v. Rickard, 572 U. S. ___, ___ (2014) (slip op., at 3, 10);Brosseau v. Haugen, 543 U. S. 194, 196–197 (2004). Instead,Mullenix chose to employ a potentially lethal tactic (shooting at Leija’s engine block) in addition to a tactic specifically designed to accomplish the same result (spike strips).* By granting Mullenix qualified immunity, this Court goes a step further than our previous cases and does so without full briefing or argument.

Thus framed, it is apparent that the majority’s exhortation that the right at stake not be defined at “a high level of generality,” see ante, at 9, is a red herring. The majority adduces various facts that the Fifth Circuit supposedly ignored in its qualified immunity analysis, including that ——————*The majority describes the choice between spike strips and shooting as the choice between “one dangerous alternative” and another, noting that spike strips can pose a danger to drivers that encounter them.

Ante, at 8–9. But Mullenix could not have thought that awaiting the spikes was anywhere near as dangerous as shooting immediately before Leija hit the spikes. For one thing, Mullenix had no training in shooting to disable the vehicle and so no idea of the relative danger that shooting posed to a driver. For another, Leija would be subjected to the danger posed by the spike strips whether Mullenix shot or not. And, in fact, that is what happened: Leija’s car hit the spike strips and then rolled two and a half times.

Leija was “a reportedly intoxicated fugitive, set on avoiding capture through high-speed vehicular flight, who twice during his flight had threatened to shoot police officers, and who was moments away from encountering an officer at Cemetery Road.” Ante, at 7. But not one of those facts goes to the governmental interest in shooting over awaiting the spike strips. The majority also claims that establishedlaw does not make clear that “Mullenix’s reasons were insufficient to justify” his choice of shooting over following his superior’s orders to wait for the spikes. Ante, at 9–10. But Mullenix seemed to have no reasons to prefer shooting to following orders.

Instead of dealing with the question whether Mullenix could constitutionally fire on Leija’s car rather than waiting for the spike strips, the majority dwells on the imminence of the threat posed by Leija. The majority recharacterizes Mullenix’s decision to shoot at Leija’s engine block as a split-second, heat-of-the-moment choice, made when the suspect was “moments away.” Ante, at 7. Indeed, reading the majority opinion, one would scarcely believe that Mullenix arrived at the overpass several minutes before he took his shot, or that the rural road where the car chase occurred had few cars and no bystanders or businesses. 773 F. 3d, at 717, 720. The majority also glosses over the facts that Mullenix had time to ask Byrd for permission to fire upon Leija and that Byrd—Mullenix’s superior officer—told Mullenix to “stand by.” Id., at 717. There was no reason to believe that Byrd did not have all the same information Mullenix did, including the knowledge that an officer was stationed beneath the overpass. Even after receiving Byrd’s response, Mullenix spent minutes in shooting position discussing his next step with a fellow officer, minutes during which he received no information that would have made his plan more suitable or his superior’s orders less so. Ibid.

An appropriate reading of the record on summary judgment would thus render Mullenix’s choice even more unreasonable. And asking the appropriate legal question would leave the majority with no choice but to conclude that Mullenix ignored the longstanding and well-settled Fourth Amendment rule that there must be a governmental interest not just in seizing a suspect, but in the level of force used to effectuate that seizure.
* * *
When Mullenix confronted his superior officer after the shooting, his first words were, “How’s that for proactive?” Ibid. (Mullenix was apparently referencing an earlier counseling session in which Byrd suggested that he was not enterprising enough. Ibid.) The glib comment does not impact our legal analysis; an officer’s actual intentions are irrelevant to the Fourth Amendment’s “objectively reasonable” inquiry. See Graham v. Connor, 490 U. S. 386, 397 (1989). But the comment seems to me revealing of the culture this Court’s decision supports when it calls it reasonable—or even reasonably reasonable—to use deadly force for no discernible gain and over a supervisor’s express order to “stand by.” By sanctioning a “shoot first, think later” approach to policing, the Court renders the protections of the Fourth Amendment hollow.

For the reasons discussed, I would deny Mullenix’s petition for a writ of certiorari. I thus respectfully dissent.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
3. If the US is going to be a free country
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:32 AM
Nov 2015

...and not a Police State, then we need to end the doctrine of "Qualified Immunity" for brutal cops.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. Start with having the police departments
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:06 AM
Nov 2015

And not the taxpayer on the hook for the actions of these rogue cops.

diverdownjt

(702 posts)
5. Yes..yes..yes
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:52 AM
Nov 2015

Make restitution straight out of their retirement funds and operational budgets.
That way they can't buy all those armored vehicles and war toys...and they have to act responsibly if they want to retire at all.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
6. It's interesting
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:32 AM
Nov 2015

that the three female Justices are coming to create a balance
against the long time Scalia bombastic noise

Ginsburg and Sotomayor and even Kagan frame their arguments with
such intellectual force, they are creating the judicial future

All they need is a majority at some point

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
8. Note that Ginsberg and Kagan, the other two women on the court,
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:20 AM
Nov 2015

did not join the Sotomayor's dissent (and neither did the last of the four liberals, Breyer).

The decision was effectively 8-1, and a liberal majority replacing a current justice or two would not have come close to changing the outcome/

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
12. "An autopsy revealed that four of the six shots Mullenix fired at the car had hit Leija instead, kil
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015

Which idiot's turn was it to reject this (I think it's only one justice on a rotating schedule)?

Damn good shooting though;

Too soon?

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