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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:31 AM Nov 2015

US poised to end 44-year ban on haggis

Source: Standard

US poised to end 44-year ban on haggis
MIchael Howie |
1 hour ago

America is set to lift an import ban on haggis 44 years after it was first introduced.

A Scottish government delegation led by environment minister Richard Lochhead has said it is confident it will overturn the ban during a visit to Washington this week. The block has been in place since 1971.

Haggis, sales of which are worth £15 million in the UK alone, was banned as Americans did not want to be exposed to sheep’s lung.

The delegation is set to propose a compromise - and suggest the key ingredient is left out.


Read more: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/us-poised-to-end-44year-ban-on-haggis-a3109871.html



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US poised to end 44-year ban on haggis (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2015 OP
I have mixed feelings about this... nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #1
I do too, XT... GReedDiamond Nov 2015 #68
Errrr MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #2
Every culture has things sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #3
Haggis is great! T_i_B Nov 2015 #4
Grits are great too, sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #6
Whoa! I love grits FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #9
Right! Just a touch of butter and salt - all anyone needs. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #18
Pepper...really! freebrew Nov 2015 #54
Of course. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #57
Had Haggis in Scotland - Yum, Good! (nt) PosterChild Nov 2015 #42
The Scots do not produce whiskey. muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #25
Scottish Cuisine PaddyIrishman Nov 2015 #5
LOL! Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #19
I saw a cooking show from a restaurant in a Scottish castle rocktivity Nov 2015 #39
That reminds me of a Monty Python sketch Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #60
Now if only we can get a ban imposed on lutefisk. longship Nov 2015 #7
Hey. Hey! HEY!!! HassleCat Nov 2015 #29
Every time I have eaten lutefisk I have had a severe migraine. longship Nov 2015 #31
We agree on the herring HassleCat Nov 2015 #32
Skäl, my good friend. longship Nov 2015 #33
This is so very wrong for so many reasons....... BooScout Nov 2015 #8
If Americans can eat Chitlins, Corndogs, and Cheese Whiz, then we can stomach Haggis FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #10
We can stomach stomach? annabanana Nov 2015 #21
Some cultures get used to eating offal bits, stuffed in a stomach. Ancient recipe there. Sunlei Nov 2015 #36
If you are going to kill an animal for meat.... T_i_B Nov 2015 #52
Don't use your head.... PosterChild Nov 2015 #43
The ban on haggis was really unnecessary... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #11
Now I can make haggis pakora without using tinned haggis!! GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #12
I can only quess there is a health concern involved Maeve Nov 2015 #13
Because of madcow (a prion disease) concerns. Sunlei Nov 2015 #34
Thank you! I knew there had to be a medical reason Maeve Nov 2015 #35
Legalizing marijuana. yallerdawg Nov 2015 #14
What's the issue with lungs? TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #15
Animals sometimes aspirate bile while being slaughtered jmowreader Nov 2015 #73
I'd have to be starving to eat that shit. tabasco Nov 2015 #16
Our long national nightmare is over... KG Nov 2015 #17
Thread winner...! First Speaker Nov 2015 #20
Touche! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #38
Hoooray! Wooohoooo! Glory be! Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #66
25 January will be a feast to remember! Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #22
I recently had it here at a food & wine festival..... Historic NY Nov 2015 #23
Chieftan of the Pudding Race!!!1111 jpak Nov 2015 #24
Going to go to my local Haggis store packman Nov 2015 #26
Some friends told me it's difficult to get in Scotland HassleCat Nov 2015 #27
I had it in a pub in Glasgow . .. PosterChild Nov 2015 #45
Well I'm in England and I can get hold of it! T_i_B Nov 2015 #50
My Scottie can hardly wait.. Hepburn Nov 2015 #28
We spent 10 days in Edinburgh... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #30
I think scrapple is what people made when theycould get hedgehog Nov 2015 #55
They're so damned hard to catch though dickthegrouch Nov 2015 #37
No!!!!!!!! Walk away Nov 2015 #40
First Cuba now this underpants Nov 2015 #41
I smoked some haggis in the sixties olddots Nov 2015 #44
this news is awesome! .... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #46
BTW what does it cost to get into a Lions game? jmowreader Nov 2015 #67
Your sanity... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #69
Strangely enough, I just checked... jmowreader Nov 2015 #72
'Haggis' - the sound effect induced by someone ingesting haggis IDemo Nov 2015 #70
this will surely bring down the mighty haggis cartels MisterP Nov 2015 #47
They have haggis, we have mad cow beef. I'd rather have the haggis, I think. nt valerief Nov 2015 #48
They have mad cow as well FrodosPet Nov 2015 #62
Ha! Yes, you're right! nt valerief Nov 2015 #63
Get your haggis! Right here! NuclearDem Nov 2015 #49
I had no idea haggis was a controlled substance. I, for one, think it should remain so. merrily Nov 2015 #51
there can be only one. mikeysnot Nov 2015 #53
We're a nation that rationalizes Hamburger Helper as a main course and Cheese Whiz as a delicacy... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #56
The Scots don't all sit around the table eating haggis once a week. It's a rare occasion if any. YOHABLO Nov 2015 #58
It couldn't be worse than scrapple, grntuscarora Nov 2015 #59
haggis doesn't have widespread appeal Enrique Nov 2015 #61
That's one import we can do without. Beacool Nov 2015 #64
Oh my... jmowreader Nov 2015 #65
'Turn it around!' IDemo Nov 2015 #71
Hoot mon! KamaAina Nov 2015 #74
Pass the neeps and tatties! brooklynite Nov 2015 #75
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
3. Every culture has things
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:58 AM
Nov 2015

it would rather forget about and others it takes great pride in. Forget the Haggis. Import more whiskey!

T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
4. Haggis is great!
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:03 AM
Nov 2015

I have to admit however that I prefer it sloshed in Henderson's Relish (or Worcestershire sauce if you really must) which I very much doubt will be met with much approval by our Scottish friends.

My only gripe about the ban being lifted is that recipe will have to be changed. And strictly speaking, if it doesn't have lights in then it's not proper haggis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-34759665
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lights_(offal)

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
6. Grits are great too,
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:12 AM
Nov 2015

so long as they taste like something else. People use everything from cheese to honey, but that doesn't make them fit for human consumption.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
9. Whoa! I love grits
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:14 AM
Nov 2015

Not that mass produced northern version you are probably talking about, but the locally ground original southern style grits are amazing.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
25. The Scots do not produce whiskey.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:15 PM
Nov 2015

It's whisky.

Haggis is quite good, actually. And I'm not that keen on liver or kidneys.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
39. I saw a cooking show from a restaurant in a Scottish castle
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

They put whisky in EVERYTHING from the appetizers to the desserts -- I got tipsy just watching it!


rocktivity

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
60. That reminds me of a Monty Python sketch
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:31 PM
Nov 2015

(A restaurant interview with Mr. Badger, author of the theory that the Magna Carta was a piece of chewing gum on a bedspread in Dorset):

Waiter (Michael Palin): Would you like to order sir?

Interviewer: Yes, Mr Badger, what would you like to start with?

Badger: Er, I'll have a whisky to start with.

Waiter: For first course, sir?

Badger: Aye.

Waiter: And for main course, sir?

Badger: I'll have a whisky for main course and I'll follow that with a whisky for pudding.

Waiter: Yes sir, and what would you like with it, sir? A whisky?

Badger: No, a bottle of wine.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Now if only we can get a ban imposed on lutefisk.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:48 AM
Nov 2015

Then, the world would be improved. Horrible stuff!

And I am second generation Norwegian/Finnish. However, that just means I sadly speak from experience.

However, yup! Lutefisk is inedible as far as I can tell.


An entertaining post. R&K

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
29. Hey. Hey! HEY!!!
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:27 PM
Nov 2015

Watch it, bub! Any food processed with lye is not to be disrespected. Actually, I agree it's inedible when cooked the regular way. However, it's not bad when baked. And, as all Norskes realize, anything can be eaten when slathered with butter.

longship

(40,416 posts)
31. Every time I have eaten lutefisk I have had a severe migraine.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:33 PM
Nov 2015

Lutefisk is inedible. Plus, any fish that has the consistency of soft jello sucks.

Sorry, my Scandinavian friend.

Now pickled herring is an entirely different matter. Yummy in the tummy!

T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
52. If you are going to kill an animal for meat....
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:36 PM
Nov 2015

...then I for one would want to use the whole of the animal, but just a few cuts. No point in being wasteful.

To be honest there's only tripe that I will actively try and avoid.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
11. The ban on haggis was really unnecessary...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:53 AM
Nov 2015

... if offered a choice, even a starving man would prefer an unwashed sweat sock. Even reading about haggis makes me want to gargle a gallon of Scope. BLEAAH!

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
13. I can only quess there is a health concern involved
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:12 AM
Nov 2015

That "Americans did not want to be exposed to sheep's lung" line is insulting.
I have several Scots friends who attend an annual Burns dinner and the key moment is the serving of the haggis.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. Because of madcow (a prion disease) concerns.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:56 PM
Nov 2015

In 1971 it became illegal to import haggis into the US from the UK due to a ban on food containing sheep lung, which constitutes 10 to 15% of the traditional recipe. The situation was further complicated in 1989 when all UK beef and lamb was banned from importation to the US due to a BSE crisis.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
35. Thank you! I knew there had to be a medical reason
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:59 PM
Nov 2015

Had not got around to researching it, appreciate the explanation

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
15. What's the issue with lungs?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:18 AM
Nov 2015

I'm not a fan of organ meats, but why single out lungs unless there's something dangerous about eating them?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
73. Animals sometimes aspirate bile while being slaughtered
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

Titles are never places for longwinded treatises, so...Animals aren't stupid. They can figure out they're about to get killed - especially when they're standing in the doorway watching it happen to the one right in front of them. They sometimes throw up and suck the bile into their lungs. Maybe the Scots shoot their sheep rather than run them through a slaughterhouse, which would keep them from having time for bile-sucking. Anyway, bile can't be eaten by humans and the government doesn't want anyone to chance it, so we banned lungs from food.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
26. Going to go to my local Haggis store
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nov 2015

and get a pound or two.

I remember watching Anthony Bourdin eating haggis and telling the crew, who were laughing in the background, to turn off the cameras after one bite.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
27. Some friends told me it's difficult to get in Scotland
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe it's a fad or something now, if it's a $20 million thing. (Did I do that math correctly?) This was ten years ago, but a couple of friends who are of Scots lineage went there, and they really, really wanted haggis. And they really, really couldn't find any. They said servers at restaurants gave them looks of disgust when they asked about it.

T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
50. Well I'm in England and I can get hold of it!
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:30 PM
Nov 2015

Also, I had a trip to Liverpool the other week and it was very pleasing to see how many pubs there serve traditional scouse stew.

3catwoman3

(23,993 posts)
30. We spent 10 days in Edinburgh...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:27 PM
Nov 2015

...in 2005 at the Marriott Dalmahoy. A sumptuous breakfast was included, and I had haggis every day. I like scrapple, so I guess there should have been no reason for me not to like haggis.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
55. I think scrapple is what people made when theycould get
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:25 PM
Nov 2015

corn meal but not oatmeal. I like both haggis and scrapple.

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
37. They're so damned hard to catch though
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:10 PM
Nov 2015

I can understand the Scots banning exports so they can keep them to themselves.
I'd rather have faggots and peas. But I do like a wee bit 'o haggis occasionally.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,727 posts)
46. this news is awesome! ....
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:54 PM
Nov 2015

Now, here in Detroit I can serve haggis at Lions tailgate parties and puke something other than the game results!

Just kidding.....about puking haggis, not the Lions. They deserve all my stomach contents.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,727 posts)
69. Your sanity...
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:54 AM
Nov 2015

I really don't know ticket prices. My son gets season tics every year. Think he pay around a grand for a couple seats. I go with him and tailgate at Eastern Market. He goes into the game and the rest of us watch on a seventy inch tv that one of the guys has hooked up in a party trailer. Us outside people just party all day long, then let them drive us home. Good times. Especially when it's snowing, the snowball fights are legendary.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
72. Strangely enough, I just checked...
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:31 PM
Nov 2015

You can get "Roar Zone" tickets for $75 - this gets you upper level end zone seats. (The same ticket is $60 at CenturyLink Field in Seattle, with the added bonuses that you can eat Ivar's and suck down Northwest craft beer, and you probably won't have to watch the Detroit Lions.)

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
70. 'Haggis' - the sound effect induced by someone ingesting haggis
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:55 AM
Nov 2015

I'm of Scottish descent, but no thank you to this.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
49. Get your haggis! Right here!
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:19 PM
Nov 2015

Chopped heart and lungs boiled in a wee sheep's stomach! Tastes as good as it sounds!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
51. I had no idea haggis was a controlled substance. I, for one, think it should remain so.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

Kidding. I thought it was stomach, not a lung, anyway. I don't know jack about haggis--and I am okay with that.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. We're a nation that rationalizes Hamburger Helper as a main course and Cheese Whiz as a delicacy...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:27 PM
Nov 2015

We're a nation that rationalizes Hamburger Helper as a main course and Cheese Whiz as a delicacy... on those points alone, we're not in any real position to criticize Scottish cuisine (except of course, to allow the weak-minded to feel better about other nations).

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
58. The Scots don't all sit around the table eating haggis once a week. It's a rare occasion if any.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:20 PM
Nov 2015

It much like people eating chitlins in the U.S.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
65. Oh my...
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:43 AM
Nov 2015

"Here's some haggis. Have a good breakfast."

(nom, nom, nom...)

'This tastes like ass!'

"Impossible! There's no ass in it!"

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