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Omaha Steve

(99,722 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:40 AM Nov 2015

Push for $15/hour: Fast food workers plan nationwide strike for Tuesday, November 10th

Source: Fox6now

MILWAUKEE — There is a revived push to boost the minimum wage and influence the 2016 elections.

Fast food workers are planning a nationwide strike this coming Tuesday, November 10th.

Workers from 270 cities are expected to walk out on their jobs — demanding a living wage of $15/hour and the right to unionize.

At the same time, thousands of protesters are expected to make their voices heard on Tuesday at the GOP Milwaukee debate — at the Milwaukee Theatre.





Read more: http://fox6now.com/2015/11/05/push-for-15hour-fast-food-workers-plan-nationwide-strike-for-tuesday-november-10th/

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Push for $15/hour: Fast food workers plan nationwide strike for Tuesday, November 10th (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2015 OP
Is it too much to hope... Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #1
terrible or not, people who work there need a living wage... Javaman Nov 2015 #2
While the woman making your bed up in your hotel. gvstn Nov 2015 #9
The working poor continue to be exploited uawchild Nov 2015 #3
They have my support! blackspade Nov 2015 #4
Come on Congress raise the Federal minimum to $15 an hour. Sunlei Nov 2015 #5
$10.10 is fine Jimbo S Nov 2015 #6
if minimum wage kept up with the cost of living, like it once did... Javaman Nov 2015 #10
We're no longer living in post-war America Jimbo S Nov 2015 #12
LOL Javaman Nov 2015 #13
No, I don't Jimbo S Nov 2015 #14
Hmmm... Javaman Nov 2015 #15
My response Jimbo S Nov 2015 #18
your post accurately illustrates that... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #19
so in other words, you are for a class society based on preconsceived ability. Javaman Nov 2015 #20
You have to be over-estimating at least a little Reter Nov 2015 #16
no, I'm not you aren't taking into account inflation. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #17
I predict automation and replacement by computers within 10 years. StrongBad Nov 2015 #7
Yup, fast food will just automate most of these jobs.. Imajika Nov 2015 #11
I've said it so many times romanic Nov 2015 #8
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
1. Is it too much to hope...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:50 AM
Nov 2015

that while Mickey D's is closed, some people discover that there are other varieties of food than "fast?" That shit is terrible for you.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
2. terrible or not, people who work there need a living wage...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015

while 15 bucks an hour certainly isn't a living wage, it's still better than 9 bucks an hour.

and I had to guffaw out loud when Hillary proclaimed that minimum wage should be 12 bucks an hour. talk about out of touch.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
9. While the woman making your bed up in your hotel.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

May not be the most skilled worker. She is working hard for her wages. That people who have never done any labor in their life say she is so stupid and should get a better job is disgusting. Who do they think will make their bed?

The woman/man does a good job and should be rewarded. A living wage is what has disappeared in America.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
3. The working poor continue to be exploited
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 10:12 AM
Nov 2015

If you are an adult and work full time and you can't live on the wages your job pays you, well, you don't have a job -- you have a form of wage-servitude reminiscent of sweatshops, sharecropping, and, yeah, I'll say it, even slavery.

In light of the corporate opposition to paying a living wage, imagine how worse things would be if, as the right wing wishes, there was no minimum wage at all. We would be hearing all the same arguments being used now to oppose a $15/hour wage being used to "explain" why even paying $5/hour would be "killing jobs" -- you know that's true.

Jimbo S

(2,960 posts)
6. $10.10 is fine
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

Minimum wage is not the same as a living wage.

I feel as though those supporting a $15/hr minimum wage has vetted it through.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
10. if minimum wage kept up with the cost of living, like it once did...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:00 PM
Nov 2015

minimum wage would be 27 bucks.

you were saying?

Jimbo S

(2,960 posts)
12. We're no longer living in post-war America
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:42 PM
Nov 2015

We're in a global economy now. The cost of living increases over the last 50 years is irrelevant.

I stand by my comment.

Jimbo S

(2,960 posts)
14. No, I don't
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 03:25 PM
Nov 2015

I didn't want to, so I bettered myself so I make more than minimum wage.

BTW, you don't in business, do you?

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
15. Hmmm...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:35 AM
Nov 2015

you might want to check your condescending attitude at the door. You won't win any friends that way.

you might wish to contemplate the old proverb of, "walking a mile in another's shoes" before you make ready assumptions about anyone or anything for that matter.

until you truly understand what it's like to live working minimum wage, you have no concept or idea of what you are talking about.

compassion for your fellow human is an amazing thing, regardless of how much you "bettered yourself".

Jimbo S

(2,960 posts)
18. My response
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:55 PM
Nov 2015

I know this will offend some people, but the truth is some people are worth $25/hr, some are worth $15/hr, some $10/hr, and some who aren't worth two cents. The thing I have with the whole minimum wage debate is I haven't found any critical thinking displayed on this subject. We're liberals here, it's our side that does the critical thinking. Which brings me to unintended consequences. If a worker doing a job that pays $8/hr that suddenly jumps to $15/hr, all of a sudden a lot of other people want that job. People that are worth $15. Be careful what you wish for, many low-wage workers could find themselves either replaced by a higher quality employee, having a position eliminated or worse yet...automation. So no, I feel I don't totally lack empathy.

I'm cognitive that low-wage earners have a daily struggle. I made min wage + $0.40 working my way through college. Not the same as making it on my own, but it still sucked, plus it motivated me to finish college so I wouldn't work min wage again.

Finally, IMO the min wage should be set so that it's enough for one person to survive: shelter, heat, food, health care. $10.10 is clearly not enough for NYC nor San Francisco, but can be outside major urban centers. True, I've never had to make on my own on min wage, but if needed to, I could get by short-run. Say my wife and I make $10.10 full-time, that comes to $42,016 gross, $36,000 take home. Monthly expenses for rent ($800), heat ($100), food ($600), pre-subsidy ACA premium (say $300 each on SILVER), and ACA deductible ($3000 each). Min wage can cover that until I/we/one get find something better.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. your post accurately illustrates that...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:51 PM
Nov 2015

"and some who aren't worth two cents"

The lack of relevancy, specificity, supporting evidence, and a conclusion in your post accurately illustrates that.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
20. so in other words, you are for a class society based on preconsceived ability.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:33 PM
Nov 2015

taking a queue from India's caste system?

Or are some animals more equal than others?

wow.

critical thinking is not your forte'.

first allow people to make a living wage then give them raises based on merit.

that is how a normal society works.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
16. You have to be over-estimating at least a little
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:14 AM
Nov 2015

I could live way above the living wage with $27 per hour. When I landed a job for $18.75 this Summer I felt like a big-shot.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
17. no, I'm not you aren't taking into account inflation. nt
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:40 AM
Nov 2015

On edit:

here is a good link to fill in the details...

The Minimum Wage Is Stuck at $7.25; It Should Be $21.16 — or Higher

http://inequality.org/minimum-wage/

here is another way to look at minimum wag: what does the cost of one hour of your life worth to you, when working?

Imajika

(4,072 posts)
11. Yup, fast food will just automate most of these jobs..
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 10:11 PM
Nov 2015

In 10 years most of the order takers will be gone, replaced by kiosks. The bulk of the cooking will also be automated as well. The remaining workers may get $15/hr, but there will be 2/3rds less of them and those that remain will be working all that much harder.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
8. I've said it so many times
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015

Raising the min wage to $15 won't mean shit if inflation and rising costs of living isn't addressed. Prices will continue to go up on basics necessities and housing to the point where a raise in wages still aren't "enough to get by".

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