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brooklynite

(94,584 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:22 PM Nov 2015

Exclusive Poll: Trump dominates among Florida voters

Source: Bay News 9

ORLANDO --
Donald Trump is dominating in our exclusive Florida Decides presidential poll released Tuesday, both among his fellow Republican candidates and likely Democratic challengers in a head-to-head general election.

Here are some of the main highlights of the Bay News 9 / News 13 Florida Decides Poll, conducted via telephone from Wednesday, Oct. 28 through Sunday, Nov. 1.

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Trump had a large, 20 percent lead over his closest runner-up, Ben Carson, who got 17 percent support from likely Republican voters. Not far behind Carson was Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, with 16 percent.

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Our exclusive poll also showed Hillary Clinton with a fierce lead, 66 percent to Bernie Sanders' 24 percent, among likely Democratic voters Our Democratic political analyst, former state Rep. Dick Batchelor, said we would likely see a similar result on primary day.

Read more: http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/11/3/florida_decides_poll_2016_election.html

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Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. He has been winning every single poll in FL for the last two months, so what is so special here?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

Also, how is a poll "non-exclusive"? Talk about hype.

No big surprise here, but I wonder where I can find the MOE or the size of the sample. I read the article, but cannot find it (not that it matters. Polls in Florida are meaningless at this point. When it will come to there, there will only be 5 or 6 candidates for the GOP, I imagine).

forest444

(5,902 posts)
4. If Trump accomplishes nothing else for the rest of his life.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

He'll still be able to look back and say: 'I kept another Bush from taking the White House'.

You just can't put a price on that.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
7. +1
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:52 PM
Nov 2015

A Bush can't get anywhere near the GOP nomination without shenanigans taking place so yes, the country can thank Trump for his massive assist in keeping that from happening.

 

Francois9

(54 posts)
10. Jeb would be weak, anyway, even without Trump.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015

Jeb is flaccid. And he would look flaccid even without Trump for comparison.

lark

(23,102 posts)
3. She's within the margin of error in the Trump comparison.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:57 PM
Nov 2015

It's FL and our voting machines are notorious, but I still think Clinton would take the day in a general here. So far, Dems have had little coverage thanks to DWS incompetence. Once there are more Dem debates, once ads contrasting the two are done, his support should wane. However, as I said, this is FL.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
5. I didn't see Carson as building momentum
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:30 PM
Nov 2015

He has core supporters who love what he represents but he doesn't seem able to excite the vast sea of voters looking for more than just a simple message.

But he has staying power and can easily last long enough for his very few rivals to destroy themselves. That can happen, and so Carson has a shot imo.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
6. The Unasked Question: Can We Still Win The General Election If Florida Goes Stoopid?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:38 PM
Nov 2015

Assuming that the Donald DOES get the Republican nomination in 2016, can we Democrats still win the 2016 general election if Florida goes stoopid?

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
8. I agree with Batchelor that there is no way Carson or Trump beats Clinton
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:01 PM
Nov 2015

No matter what the polls say now. Neither has shown that they can withstand a GE battle. That said, the Dems have a better shot of winning without FL than the GOP does. Looking at the 270towin map, there are alot of combinations that would get them to 270 - for instance WI, NH, PA, NV, CO and either NC or VA. They could also win with WI, PA, NV, and OH. Winning OH makes it easier without FL but they could win without either. The GOP can't say the same. In fact, realistically, the GOP nominee needs both FL and OH unless they sweep NV, CO, VA, NC, IA and NH.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
9. I Suspect You're Right, But
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:36 PM
Nov 2015

I suspect that you're right, but I'm still down about 2014, and yesterday's results didn't change my mood.

I keep thinking that it is theoretically possible for the Republicans to be turned out of office here in the Lone Star State as early as next year, but I also fear that the same thing that happened in 2010, 2012, and 2014 will happen again. The young, the economically-struggling, Hispanic voters (A shout-out to right-wing trolls lurking on this board, I'm talking about native-born US citizens of Hispanic descent and those alone) Just. Don't. Vote.

It continues to boggle my mind that even with early voting and the relatively easy process of voter registration, the people most likely to be kicked in the teeth by right-wing "governance" are the people most likely to lie around like bean-bag chairs on the living-room floor and let it happen to them. I would think that even with the foreknowledge that they'd likely lose, people likely to be hurt by Teapublican policies would at least vote to protest the people who would (Phillips-head) them over, but their minds just don't seem to work that way.

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