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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:33 AM Nov 2015

AP: Ahmad Chalabi, Leading Voice Behind 2003 Invasion, Dies of Heart Attack

Source: Associated Press

Iraq state TV: Ahmad Chalabi, leading voice behind 2003 invasion, dies of heart attack

By the Associated Press | November 3, 2015 | 3:25 AM EST
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq state TV: Ahmad Chalabi, leading voice behind 2003 invasion, dies of heart attack.

Read more: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/iraq-state-tv-ahmad-chalabi-leading-voice-behind-2003-invasion-dies-heart-attack



Just a reminder: He wasn't a "leading voice." He was a liar, warmonger and fraud.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/06/07/the-manipulator
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AP: Ahmad Chalabi, Leading Voice Behind 2003 Invasion, Dies of Heart Attack (Original Post) Hissyspit Nov 2015 OP
Only 10 years too late for his country (and ours) Demeter Nov 2015 #1
He was a corporate shill. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #2
Welcome to the afterlife, Ahmad. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #3
What a terrible legacy to leave. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #4
A conman's conman Botany Nov 2015 #5
Luckily the Neocons Turbineguy Nov 2015 #6
From the New Yorker link in the O.P. Botany Nov 2015 #7
Funeral Scarsdale Nov 2015 #11
Don't think those two dare leave the country brush Nov 2015 #17
Let's hope Judith Miller and Dick Cheney make a trifecta. nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #8
Doug Feith can join those 2 ASAP Botany Nov 2015 #9
Feith is too stoopid to croak. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #12
Feith is not dumb, a lying no good neocon shit yes but stupid he is not. Botany Nov 2015 #13
Academics can be quite brilliant at what they do, but some of them really don't understand the world YoungDemCA Nov 2015 #21
He was also an out-and-out crook. BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #10
Oh no! What a devastating loss to the Jeb! foreign policy team! hatrack Nov 2015 #14
BURN IN HELL FOREVER, AHMED CHALABI!!! Vogon_Glory Nov 2015 #15
Can't wait for the NYT in depth obit piece Rose Siding Nov 2015 #16
"Just a reminder: He wasn't a "leading voice." He was a liar, warmonger and fraud" Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #18
POS dies. Boo-fucking-hoo. Solly Mack Nov 2015 #19
something to be happy about olddots Nov 2015 #20
I know I shouldn't, but... Eugene Nov 2015 #22
If you have nothing good to say about someone... Javaman Nov 2015 #23
The Comments Give Me Hope McKim Nov 2015 #24
Sorry fucker tabasco Nov 2015 #25
Oh. OK. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #26
Jordanian intelligence figured he was an Iranian double agent. Sounds about right Monk06 Nov 2015 #27
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
2. He was a corporate shill.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:24 AM
Nov 2015

I know the Romans said "de mortuis nihil nisi bene" but on this occasion I am struggling even to say nothing.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
3. Welcome to the afterlife, Ahmad.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:39 AM
Nov 2015

Hope you enjoy your next incarnation. I'm sure it will be interesting to see the world from a roach's point of view.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
5. A conman's conman
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:47 AM
Nov 2015

He had to escape Jordan in the trunk of a car after stealing the funds
deposited into the bank he set up and knowing this the neo-cons sold
America that he was gonna be the new Iraq's George Washington. Chalibi
was more then happy to tell of WMDs and how we were gonna be welcomed
as liberators in Iraq.

Turbineguy

(37,337 posts)
6. Luckily the Neocons
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:59 AM
Nov 2015

had plenty of our money to pay for his con.

May you have an unpleasant eternity, Mr. Chalabi.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
7. From the New Yorker link in the O.P.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:08 AM
Nov 2015

<Between 1992 and the raid on Chalabi’s home, the U.S. government funneled more than a hundred million dollars to the Iraqi National Congress. The current Bush Administration gave Chalabi’s group at least thirty-nine million dollars. Exactly what the I.N.C. provided in exchange for these sums has yet to be fully explained. Chalabi defined his role simply. “I clarified the picture,” he said. His many critics, however, believe that he distorted it. Diplomatic and intelligence officials accuse him of exaggerating the security threat that Iraq posed to the U.S.; supplying defectors who offered misleading or bogus testimony about Saddam’s efforts to acquire nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons; promoting questionable stories connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda; and overestimating the ease with which Saddam could be replaced with a Western-style democracy.

Vincent Cannistraro, a former C.I.A. counter-terrorism specialist who now consults for the government, told me, “With Chalabi, we paid to fool ourselves. It’s horrible. In other times, it might be funny. But a lot of people are dead as a result of this. It’s reprehensible.”>

now how many investigations did they do into Benghazi?

The neocons had to know that Chalibi was under a 20 year sentence for bank fraud and embezzlement
in Jordan but they were more then happy to pay and use him for their Iraq war which has now morphed
into ISIS.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
11. Funeral
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:58 AM
Nov 2015

Will his close friends W and Cheney attend the funeral? He did them a big favor, lying for them to enrich them all.

brush

(53,784 posts)
17. Don't think those two dare leave the country
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:02 AM
Nov 2015

Irony of all ironies, they're afraid of being victims of their own cruel tactics — extraodinary rendition.

It's a good bet that if it becomes known of their whereabouts outside of the U.S., they could very well be hustled off to the Hague to be put on trial for their war crimes.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
9. Doug Feith can join those 2 ASAP
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:27 AM
Nov 2015

He used Chalabi to help the pentagon's "office of special plans" to
sell the Iraq war w/lies about WMDs and how we would be welcomed
as liberators.


********

Thom Hartman

Botany

(70,510 posts)
13. Feith is not dumb, a lying no good neocon shit yes but stupid he is not.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:24 AM
Nov 2015

From Wiki:

Feith grew up in Elkins Park, part of Cheltenham Township, a Philadelphia suburb. He attended Philadelphia's Central High School, and later attended Harvard University, where he obtained his undergraduate degree and graduated magna cum laude in 1975. He continued on to the Georgetown University Law Center, receiving his J.D. magna cum laude in 1978.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_J._Feith

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
21. Academics can be quite brilliant at what they do, but some of them really don't understand the world
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

Or, they just don't care, because they are blinded by their own myopic ideologies.

Case in point: Douglas Feith.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
10. He was also an out-and-out crook.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:42 AM
Nov 2015
Honest bankers will tell you they’re in a get-rich-slow business, that any rapidly growing bank is headed for trouble. That conventional wisdom was proved correct by the record of the Ahmed Chalabi-run Petra Bank.


Chalabi has always insisted Saddam Hussein was somehow behind the bank’s demise, and while that claim has never held water, the details of Petra’s collapse have always been murky. But a look at documents collected by auditors from an Arthur Andersen branch in Geneva sheds some light on where the missing money went. The audit found that 40 percent of the bank’s loans and commitments were “non-performing,” or not paid back. Part of the problem was what the accountants call “related-party transactions,” in which a bank lends money to its owners, their companies, their relatives or their business partners. Fourteen percent of the bank’s assets, or about $130 million before the Jordanian devaluation, were dubious loans to, or commitments from, “related parties” — meaning members of the Chalabi family network, who had a high rate of default on them.


According to a Jordanian official involved in handling the Petra affair, after Petra’s closure in 1989, the Jordanian government had to put up some $300 million to guarantee depositors’ money — a staggering blow to the oil-poor country. The total cost to the economy is estimated at $500 million. “We’re still feeling the effects of the Petra collapse in many ways,” says Mohammed Alayyan, a publisher in the capital of Amman.

Chalabi was tried and convicted in absentia on 31 charges of embezzlement, theft, misuse of depositor funds and currency speculation, and sentenced by a Jordanian court to 22 years in jail. Despite Chalabi’s claims, it’s clear the Petra Bank fraud was one crime that Saddam Hussein didn’t commit.


http://www.salon.com/2004/05/04/petra/

He fit right in with the warmongering criminals Bush, Cheney, et al. I hope that he's saving some space for them in Hell.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
15. BURN IN HELL FOREVER, AHMED CHALABI!!!
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:30 AM
Nov 2015

I rarely post my most vicious thoughts on-line, but for this guy I'll make an exception. This SOB was instrumental in setting off a disastrous war that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and wrecked the lives of tens of thousands of American lives and millions of Iraqis' lives, too. His evil counsel led to one of the greatest foreign policy disasters of the last 100 years and led to the rise of a particularly vicious, malignant war of religion that is blighting the Middle East and elsewhere right to this moment.

Woe to the people who listened to this villain's lying words and used it to send our kids in harms way!!!


Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
18. "Just a reminder: He wasn't a "leading voice." He was a liar, warmonger and fraud"
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:41 AM
Nov 2015

Just a reminder: Liar, warmonger and fraud also describe the Frat Boy, the Big Dick, the Rumbler and many other Bush Junta figures. So how does being any or all of those things exclude one from being a "leading voice" for the invasion of Iraq. It was a prerequisite.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
23. If you have nothing good to say about someone...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:22 PM
Nov 2015

say it anyway. that man was a bastard and should have been in tried on war crimes along with george w. moron*

McKim

(2,412 posts)
24. The Comments Give Me Hope
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:53 PM
Nov 2015

I am thankful to those who commented and told the truth about Chalabi. It warms my heart to know that many many people know what really happened to start this disastrous war. Keep talking, brothers and sisters.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
25. Sorry fucker
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

This was his guys staging this phony celebration that the corrupt U.S. mass media made look like the entire population of Baghdad was there.





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