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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:40 AM Nov 2015

Sinai plane crash: Russian airline official rejects possibility of technical fault

Source: The Guardian

The Russian airline whose jet crashed in Egypt on Saturday, killing all 224 people on board, has said the crash could not have been caused by technical faults or human error.

Alexander Smirnov, the deputy general director of Metrojet, said the cause of the crash “could only have been an external impact on the plane” in the air, causing it to break up in mid-air and plummet to the ground.

When pressed for an explanation about what could have caused this impact, Smirnov insisted that he was not at liberty to discuss details because the investigation was ongoing.

“The plane was in excellent condition,” Smirnov told a news conference in Moscow. “We rule out a technical fault and any mistake by the crew,” he said.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/02/sinai-plane-crash-russian-official-blames-external-factor-egypt?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



Sinai plane crash: 'External activity' caused crash

The Russian airline Kogalymavia has blamed "external activity" for Saturday's Sinai plane crash which killed 224 people.

One airline official said: "The only reasonable explanation is that it was [due to] external activity."

An investigation by aviation experts using data from the aircraft's "black boxes" has yet to give its conclusions.

A Kremlin spokesman has told the BBC terrorism could not be ruled out as a possible cause of the crash.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34697416
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Sinai plane crash: Russian airline official rejects possibility of technical fault (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 OP
Just saw a CNN breaking banner BumRushDaShow Nov 2015 #1
Oh shit. (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #2
How interesting. Behind the Aegis Nov 2015 #3
Wait. They claimed that without telemetry or CVR? Recursion Nov 2015 #4
"The plane broke up in mid air" Divernan Nov 2015 #5
It broke up in flight, not disintegrated. blackspade Nov 2015 #9
from the article: marble falls Nov 2015 #6
Egypt's image and Metrojet's reputation are at stake with this bigworld Nov 2015 #7
It's a bit early for that 'reasonable explanation' blackspade Nov 2015 #8
This should be a scientific inquiry, not a political one CanonRay Nov 2015 #10
So the Aircraft was destoryed by the sudden stop at the end of a fall. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #11
Amazing How Many Things RobinA Nov 2015 #12
I thought they would, at this early point jmowreader Nov 2015 #13
They don't want to get sued. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #14
Somehow, I don't trust Putin to admit problem with the plane. if true (nt) question everything Nov 2015 #15

BumRushDaShow

(129,344 posts)
1. Just saw a CNN breaking banner
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:44 AM
Nov 2015

This ain't good. Probably why a bunch of airlines decided not to fly over that area. That would be a major deal if it were ISIL-sponsored (or related).

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/africa/russian-plane-crash-egypt-sinai/index.html

Behind the Aegis

(53,975 posts)
3. How interesting.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:53 AM
Nov 2015

I was mocked for saying there would be those making claims about "this group or that one", as if conspiracy theories are an anomaly, and here we are with a report that says...

Sinai plane crash: 'External activity' caused crash

THEN says...

An investigation by aviation experts using data from the aircraft's "black boxes" has yet to give its conclusions.

It is one thing to speculate, another to make "claims" without any proof.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
5. "The plane broke up in mid air"
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:35 AM
Nov 2015
A senior Russian aviation official has confirmed that the plane broke up in mid-air. But Viktor Sorochenko said it was too early to draw conclusions about the causes of the disaster.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34687990

Causes such as a ground to air missile or an on-board bomb seem obvious possibilities, as opposed to some mechanical or system failure, which would not cause mid-air disintegration of the aircraft.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
9. It broke up in flight, not disintegrated.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:17 AM
Nov 2015

Mechanical failure has caused several planes to break up in flight.

marble falls

(57,153 posts)
6. from the article:
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:39 AM
Nov 2015

"The Airbus A321-200 had previously had an accident involving its tail section, but the airline officials said that full-scale repairs had been done and that there was no reason to think that the prior accident had anything to do with the crash Saturday."

Faulty repairs have brought down US airliners.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
7. Egypt's image and Metrojet's reputation are at stake with this
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:21 AM
Nov 2015

I don't expect to get the straight story from either of them.

Egypt will jump through hoops to insure their tourism industry isn't hurt by terrorism fears... Metrojet has a growing business that'll be hurt if the public thinks their planes aren't up to snuff.

The cockpit voice recorder should reveal much.... if the information is honestly reviewed and released.

CanonRay

(14,112 posts)
10. This should be a scientific inquiry, not a political one
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:55 AM
Nov 2015

but the Russians don't want it to be Russia's fault, and the Egyptians don't want it to be terrorism. Good luck with that.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
12. Amazing How Many Things
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

that "could not" happen actually do happen. I have a feeling this is another one we will never know the full story about.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
13. I thought they would, at this early point
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:42 PM
Nov 2015

If he takes responsibility now, it'll always be his airline's fault...even if the investigation proves beyond all doubt the plane went down because its previous owners put the wings back on with Elmer's and the glue failed. Apparently, tho, "no comment" doesn't have a direct Russian translation.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
14. They don't want to get sued.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:56 PM
Nov 2015

If there were technical reasons for the flight going down they would be responsible.

I don't think anyone knows what really happened and they probably won't for a long time. Those investigations take time.

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