Emily’s List Official Accuses Bernie Sanders Team of Sexism

[onehandle]

Source: New York Times

Stephanie Schriock, the president of the group Emily’s List, which helps elect female candidates to public office, has seized on joking comments made by Senator Bernie Sanders’s campaign manager about vetting Hillary Rodham Clinton for his vice-presidential nominee.

“Look, she’d make a great vice president,” the campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said of Mrs. Clinton to John Heilemann of Bloomberg Politics. “We’re willing to give her more credit than Obama did. We’re willing to consider her for vice president. We’ll give her serious consideration. We’ll even interview her.”

On Wednesday, Ms. Schriock wrote on Twitter that the comments were a “Condescending insult by a team who knows better.”

“Hillary is possibly most qualified ever to run & Americans know it,” she wrote.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/29/emilys-list-official-accuses-bernie-sanders-team-of-sexism

[Mass]

1. Those are typical comments between campaigns. Emily list is getting on my nerves.

They should fight for actual victims, not against what is usual campaign trashtalk. (Same comments went between Rubio and Walker and nobody accused Walker of being racist and condescending).

It is Emily list which is condescending if she thinks every comment aimed at Hillary Clinton is sexist and that she cannot take it like a strong person (and yes, I am a woman, but come on).

[erronis]

8. Hate to have something like Emily List just become another front-piece.

They might want to look at some great organizations such as the NOW for examples of how to stay objective. But maybe money gets in the way, again.

[arcane1]

21. They've already endorsed Clinton, so objectivity isn't an issue for them n/t

[George II]

30. They OBJECTIVELY assessed the candidates and chose Clinton because she best represents....

....what they're working toward.

[Doctor_J]

65. an organization dedicated solely to electing women objectively assessed Hillary vs Bernie?

Wow. Not many are going to buy that whopper.

[LanternWaste]

48. I'd pretend the same if they endorsed someone other my own choice for the nomination, too

I'd feel compelled to pretend the same if they endorsed someone other my own choice for the nomination, also. Irrational and unsupported conclusions are often the most comforting when our bias depends on it as such...

[arcane1]

50. Exactly.

The "sexism" charge is a perfect example of irrational bias.

[tammywammy]

59. Emily's List never said it was sexist. They called it condescending. n/t

[arcane1]

63. Fair enough n/t

[NWProf]

61. Emily's List has been just another front-piece for quoite some time.

E's L has backed Republicans over progressive Democrats for quite some time. The List was quietly taken over nearly 8 years ago. Up until that time E's L could be counted on to endorse the candidate who was the strongest on woman's issues. Not any more. To get a really good idea how bad it has become, head on over to "Down with Tyranny" and type Emily's List into their search box in the upper right. Then do not give money to this organization.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/

[Nitram]

32. Emily's List makes a valid point.

Condescension of that sort is a typical sexist put down. Have you heard a candidate make a similar statement about a male opponent?

[Mass]

35. Yes. As I said, Walker did it about Rubio when Walker was still around.

And it is a very usual statement.

[Nitram]

37. OK. Thanks. nt

[Skittles]

56. CORRECT

[wordpix]

66. Sanders didn't make the comment, his campaign staffer did

Sanders cannot control every word that comes out of his staff's mouths.

[bravenak]

2. I was about to post this!!!!!

[onehandle]

15. Ha ha.

Beat you!

[bravenak]

24. Lol!!

Your turn!

[giftedgirl77]

18. Hey b I'm back...

Check out what Thom Hartman said about it. This should rumple some feathers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251741459

[bravenak]

23. Whoa!! Yay!!! Glad to see you!

[Purveyor]

3. If "team hillary" thinks they can ride the sexist meme into a general election win, they are

seriously deluded.

The last thing one thinks when it comes to Hillary Clinton is 'poor pitiful me'...

[George II]

31. Excuse me, SANDERS started the "sexist meme".

[Purveyor]

34. Doesn't matter. She will loose regardless... eom

[LanternWaste]

49. No doubt, faith in your prophecy is a most righteous pretense.

No doubt, faith in your prophecy is a most righteous pretense.

[Purveyor]

51. "No doubt", indeed.

[blackspade]

39. That would be no.

But thanks for trying to gin it up!

[wordpix]

67. no he didn't, a campaign staffer said it and BTW

seems to me he said it tongue in cheek. I am a woman and not offended. People have awful thin skins sometimes. Let's get on to real issues.

[William769]

4. Good.

[BlueJazz]

5. Sexism?? What the hell does “Look, she’d make a great vice president”, have to do with her gender?

I despise this kind of stuff because it demeans TRUE sexism. It's like the "Boy that cried wolf" bullshit.

[Major Nikon]

13. If the HRC campaign had said the same thing about Bernie it wouldn't be sexism

Because of reasons.

[BlueJazz]

27. I wouldn't feel that way. I believe in any "cause" a group has to not start grabbing straws or...

...(in a case such as this) you'll hear the retort:
Those women are always bi**chin' about something...now they got their panties all in a bunch because somebody said Hillary would make a good Vice-Pres.
Yeah, I heard about that stupid shit.

All I'm saying is we need to pick the right fights or people will think we're picayune.

[George II]

53. Considering that Clinton is running for PRESIDENT, making the comment....

....that she "would make a good Vice President" is condescending as hell!

[BlueJazz]

54. What you say is certainly true, as it would be if the Hillary camp talked about Sanders being...

...vice-president. Very condescending but not sexist. In my opinion.

[christx30]

58. What's Bernie supposed to say?

"Oh, yeah. Hillary would make a GREAT president! I don't even know why I'm running."

Hillary is running for president. Bernie is opposing her because he thinks he might be a better choice. "She'd be a great vice president" is Bernie being polite. It's much better than insulting her. "She's a low down... blah blah whatever."
Not every opposition to Hillary is sexism. I rooting for Bernie for the nomination because I like his stance on TPP and other issues over Hillary's stances. If Hillary were running against Trump, I'd leave flaming tire tracks on the way to support Hillary.
"I'm a better choice for this office than Candidate B." That's what campaigns have been about for two hundred years.
It's not sexism.

[Nitram]

33. Let me explain it for you in simple terms, Blue.

The VP plays second fiddle to the President, and doesn't really have an official role in the management of the country. Just like the role of women in traditional marriages. Or is that too complicated to wrap your head around?

[BlueJazz]

43. "Or is that too complicated to wrap your head around" Your example is not valid.

If Ms. Clinton was a black man or Mexican or Asian, would I say "Oh me, here we go again...this person is trying to put XXXX in their place."
NO

Better yet, how about if Hillary's manager said " Sanders would be a fine vice-president?
I'd think "Yeah, that's true but he wants something higher"
I wouldn't think "Shit, always trying to put down the Jewish people"

I just don't feel this whole thing is a big deal. (Your feelings are obviously different)

[Nitram]

44. Actually, I agree that the whole things is overblown.

But even Emily's List didn't rise to the rhetorical level of hysteria exhibited in many of the anti-Clinton comments here.

[BlueJazz]

45. My main concern is the Feminists (and I'm one of them) need to pick more valid situations...

..to show the people/world that sexism IS real....and there's tons of that crap. "You look mighty sexy this morning, Susan"

Making a big deal out of everything can hurt the cause more than help it.

[Gamecock Lefty]

6. I Love Emily's List!!!

And did you notice the underhanded dig at Hillary - “We’re willing to give her more credit than Obama did."

All hail, King Sanders!!!

[arcane1]

17. That seemed more like a dig at Obama n/t

[24601]

57. Well, Senator Obama told Senator Clinton in a 2008 debate that she was "likable enough" and did

not say it in a sincere way. I recall that moment quite well.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1929415_1929418_1929431,00.html

[TwilightGardener]

7. "Shouting" wasn't sexist. Neither is a suggestion to make someone VP.

But you gotta send out your side's bomb throwers to stage a freak-out. LOL.

[Nitram]

69. If Sanders wasn't directing the comment specifically to Clinton then it wan's sexist.

It just illustrates how puffed up with holier than thou righteousness he is because he thinks he is the only one who can talk about the issue calmly. Everybody else is just "shouting."

And, of course, the statement we're discussing came in direct response to a calm, rational explanation from Clinton as to why gun control is necessary.

[blackspade]

9. So much for focusing on issues.....

How is this sexist?

Schriock could have just endorsed her, but no, she had to fling a ladle of bullshit out of the shit pot that many insist on stirring during the primary.

That is not to say that Jeff Weaver doesn't come off like a dick in this interview. Not sexist, just dickish.

[Nitram]

36. If you want to focus on the issues, I suggest you do so.

Ignore the side-show.

[blackspade]

40. I will, thanks!

[mnhtnbb]

10. All this whining about sexism from Hillary's followers is going to backfire.

Candidates trash talk each other's campaigns all the time.

Do you think if Hillary said she'd interview Bernie for VP that Bernie's followers
would be yelling that was anti-Semitic?

C'mon.

[Roy Rolling]

11. Jumped the Shark

"Emily's List"---a business to help poor, hapless housewives find a candidate (nothing sexist about that, apparently)---is really stretching the boundaries of credibility to cry "sexist" on that comment. If you "cry wolf", nobody will take it seriously when actual sexism is intended.

"Emily's List" should go back to the sexist business of only promoting candidates exclusively of the female gender, regardless of any other outstanding qualification a woman candidate may possess.

Who is the real sexist group here?

[Mass]

12. Are you confusing them with Angie's List?\nt

[Roy Rolling]

20. yes...stupid me n/t

[onehandle]

14. I think you are confusing 'Angie's List' somehow. nt

[giftedgirl77]

22. Wow, yeah women should never get additional support

when trying to get into a game that has shut them out for centuries. I guess you missed the fact that the committees that are trying to decide issues that directly effect women are being held with all male panels?

[Roy Rolling]

25. It may be additional support

But to promote one candidate based on gender is sexist. Being the anti-male is not the solution, enlightened males and females is the solution.

All of the committee members are white male Republicans. So by the "anti" logic, then only non-white, non-male, non-Republican people should be on the committee. It is like having an un-birthday---there are a million "un-qualities" of a leader. but very few true qualities.

So, should woman advocacy groups exist? Sure. But should every issue they address have a sexist component to it? Not in this case. When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer then every problem looks like a nail.

[giftedgirl77]

26. Not when women are so unequivocally under represented in all aspects of public office.

It then becomes a necessity. For far to long men have been making asinine decisions that directly involve women without any idea how those policies with directly effect us. Until we are better represented as a whole it will continue in that fashion.

[Nitram]

41. Wow, Roy. You win the prize for most sexist post in this thread.

Congratulations! You sure aren't doing Saunders any favors by supporting him this way.

[arcane1]

16. This has already been posted several times, and is more appropriate for GDP

"Clinton surrogate tells lies" isn't exactly "news".

[KamaAina]

19. My sexism detector must need new batteries.

Nary a beep.

[840high]

28. I quit supporting Emily's list in '08.

[Gregorian]

29. While the little ones quibble, the steam roller is coming to flatten all of them.

We really can't afford this kind of nonsense if we want to improve this country.

[sybylla]

38. This kind of unprofessionalism will cause me to rethink future contributions to Emily's List.

Candidates say this kind of thing about their primary opponents all the time. But if that opponent is now a woman it cannot be said without earning cries of sexism? What the hell happened to leaning in? Hillary doesn't require special treatment. No woman who wants the job want's special treatment.

Sorry Emily's List. This is utter BS and a bridge too far for me. As a Democrat and a supporter of all candidates past and present, I can say without bias that you've stepped in it with this. I love Bernie. I love Hillary. Martin has certainly proved himself worthy of a place on the primary ballot.

Hillary is a big girl. She can deal with an opponent even on an uneven playing field. No reason to undermine your credibility with this bullshit claim.

[MelissaB]

47. I agree 100%.

[tammywammy]

42. Emily's List didn't say sexist, they called it condescending. And it was.

On Wednesday, Ms. Schriock wrote on Twitter that the comments were a “Condescending insult by a team who knows better.”

[Skittles]

55. yup

it's obvious to anyone who actually reads the article

[JonLeibowitz]

68. Agreed

I wrote a letter to Margaret Sullivan @ the NYT chiding them for editorializing the title. I encourage others to do the same.

[MelissaB]

46. This contributor to Emily's list is done.

No more from me. Removed myself from email list as well.

[alcibiades_mystery]

52. Emily's List...under the bus!

[Bradical79]

60. I don't see the accusation in the article

Where are they accused of sexism?

[tammywammy]

64. Emily's List never called it sexist.

They said Weaver's statement was condescending, and it was. Bernie's already said it was inappropriate.

[SandersDem]

62. it wasn't even condescending.

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