Stephen Colbert Asked Hillary Clinton If She'd Let Big Banks Fail: 'Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes'
Source: Business Insider
Hillary Clinton told late-night host Stephen Colbert on Tuesday that she would not bail out banks if confronted with another crisis caused by risky behaviour in the financial industry.
When asked by the Late Show host Colbert if she would allow banks to fail in the case of another financial industry meltdown, Clinton had an unequivocal answer.
Yes, Clinton said, nodding. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
The former secretary of state qualified her answer, saying that mandates included in the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial-reform package would safeguard against a situation like the 2008 collapse.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/hillary-clinton-stephen-colbert-big-banks-fail-2015-10
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)what an insane answer......it sounds like an bullshit answer that she imagines people want to hear
Warpy
(111,318 posts)The second part to allowing them to fail is nationalization but that's a word that none dare speak and the banksters know it. So they continue the fiction of "too big to fail, to important to jail" and hope nobody thinks about the situation too hard.
riversedge
(70,270 posts)....Clinton said if banks or other financial institutions become too big to fail, she would considering pushing to break them up.
And they have to know what their shareholders have to know is, yes, they will fail. And if theyre too big to fail, then, under my plan and others that have been proposed, they may have to be broken up, Clinton said.
Citing praise from New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, Clinton said her financial-industry regulation plan, released earlier this month, is the most comprehensive plan of any candidate. She argued the plan does not just focus on major banks, instead ensuring that risky behaviour perpetrated by other large sectors of the finance industry like insurance companies dont threaten to cause a systemic collapse.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Hillary Clinton is just saying again,what Bernie Sanders has talked about with breaking up the Banks.
With Hillary saying she would allow banks to fail without bailing them out was not in the corporate Goldman Sachs script.
She will later say,I would be on it, that it was a joke...
mcar
(42,366 posts)Krugman has praised HRC's plan.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Clearly.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)They have been too big to fail for years.....
They need to be broken up yesterday.
And if theyre too big to fail, then, under my plan and others that have been proposed, they may have to be broken up, Clinton said.
The only problem her plan is fixing is political. She is pretending to be committed to breaking up the banks to compete with Bernie.
Her most enthusiastic commitment is about letting "too big to fail" banks actually fail.....
Yes, Clinton said, nodding. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
cprise
(8,445 posts)IIRC it was during her 2008 run for office. She referred to the large banks as "too big to fail", using those exact words.
Of course, she didn't aim to fix that. By adding a box of bandaids to the situation, she is enshrining the big banks as permanent institutions.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Come on, even you have enough sense to know she will not bite the hand that feeds her.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)But, that would damage the ability to get 100 million plus in donations.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)you have to break them up before they fail.....
that 'Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes' thing.......amazing
840high
(17,196 posts)riversedge
(70,270 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)It just means they expect to be hit up for more campaign donations in the near future by Hillary's team.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)But that's because they know she doesn't mean a word of it.
This sounds like more finger-to-the-wind politics from Hillary.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)That is, if they can't prove that they're solvent and don't need breaking up or that they're not "too big to fail", they just have to pay a fine.
The banks will gladly pay these "fees" year after year. If anything it's banker insurance. It's actually not good in the long run if it's not managed correctly.
frizzled
(509 posts)Execute them. Seriously.
Just fucking kill every banker who launders money, falsifies accounts, double-dips, takes more risk than they are legally allowed to, etc. That's the point at which you'll see an improvement in behavior.
Same for politicians, too.
redwitch
(14,946 posts)Sorry, I don't support the death penalty. Prosecution is called for, not execution. We are not Saudi Arabia. Thank God.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The big banks give a ton of money to her campaign. They wouldn't be doing this if she would let them sink.
imthevicar
(811 posts)HRC is fully in the pockets of Big banks and Has the Gaul to Say she would break them Up!? GIVE ME A BREAK!
riversedge
(70,270 posts)which is embedded in this part??
...Under Dodd-Frank, that is what will happen because we now have stress tests, Clinton said, before mentioning a proposal from her own plan to more heavily regulate Wall Street. And Im going to impose a risk fee on the big bank if they engage in risky investor.
Clinton said if banks or other financial institutions become too big to fail, she would considering pushing to break them up.
And they have to know what their shareholders have to know is, yes, they will fail. And if theyre too big to fail, then, under my plan and others that have been proposed, they may have to be broken up, Clinton said.
Citing praise from New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, Clinton said her financial-industry regulation plan, released earlier this month, is the most comprehensive plan of any candidate. She argued the plan does not just focus on major banks, instead ensuring that risky behaviour perpetrated by other large sectors of the finance industry like insurance companies dont threaten to cause a systemic collapse.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/hillary-clinton-stephen-colbert-big-banks-fail-2015-10
smiley
(1,432 posts)doesn't mean we believe it. I for one have a hard time believing a single word that comes out of any Clinton's mouth. Typical politicians if you ask me. Say one thing.... do another.
Have a great day! It''s going to be beautiful!
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)How does one monitor this? Enforce it? And then she would "consider" "pushing" to break them up? There should be no considering. It should be implemented, no questions asked. My main question is how can you determine that a bank has become "too big to fail"?
Sorry, but I don't buy her bullshit for 1 second. It's all political fluff to please the masses.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Oh, yes. It was 2 years ago when my then congregation told me when I asked them to become an RIC congregation, I was told, "Well, if you bring in a couple more GLBT members, we will take it under CONSIDERATION." I didn't buy that insult then and I don't buy it from anyone else,either. Whenever one hears that word, consider, that means, not a thing is going to happen. Their minds are already made up and it is not in your favor. Hillary knows from whence comes her campaign cash.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)"they have to be broken up"
Which can always be used post election to refute the claim that she said she "WOULD" break them up. It's all in the semantics. Glad for her cash flow potential she didn't forget to add the "MAY". Can you imagine? Whew, would that be ugly.
imthevicar
(811 posts)They are already to big to fail! and we the taxpayer are the golden Parachute.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Bill is going to get more speaking engagements at big banks.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)But only if they failed to pay the fines (she calls them "fees" afaik. And the big banks have never failed to pay their fines (fees). So it's an easy out, imo. The big banks would undoubtedly consider it more useful to pay the fines (fees) from a cost-benefit scenario than they would break themselves up.
But as Warren said, breaking up the banks makes them more valuable, so that's the eventuality in the long run.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)We already got fleeced once by the big banks and a good portion of the money wasn't recovered.
It's the same thing as the bean counters and the recalls of cars. It's cheaper to pay the fines then to recall the product. The company's will worry about their bottom line and screw the taxpayers.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)committees, hearings, wheels and deals, legislation and votes cast by a majority of congressmen /women who are virtually tied to big banks anyway, just as she is?
riversedge
(70,270 posts)frizzled
(509 posts)It's used already in the world, and the deterrence effect for bankers and politicians should be pretty good. Apply it to everyone who embezzles or swindles more than, say, $1000.
underpants
(182,861 posts)Why do you think so many people bailed ON the banks and went to credit unions?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)he told Geithner to do it and Geithner didn't do it, so oh well.
I guess the lesson is we need to look at who Hillary would put as Treasury Secretary.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Response to Enrique (Reply #24)
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GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)and allow more small banks open to give those big five banks some competition for customers?
Those "big5" Banks cut 2% off the top of every debit card transaction across America as pure profit. They can afford to treat small bank account consumers a lot better.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)bank, well shit, let the market sort it out.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)the big banks. How do they opt out?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)long term loan.
harun
(11,348 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)donations as $200,000 a page "speaking fees" from the bank$ter/donors....
Javaman
(62,532 posts)she knows the temperature of the nation, what else would she say?
however, since most of those "too big to fail" banks are giving her copious amounts of money to her campaign, I honestly doubt she would allow any of them to "fail".
but then again, in wall street/banking terms, "fail" means getting a golden parachute before you are shown the door.
so to them, fail is win/win as they go and peddle their bullshit into another CEO position at another bank.
And allowing them to fail would crash the economy.
How about just breaking them up and jailing the violators? I know, novel idea.
her sound bite plays well to the people who don't know better, but to the rest of us who pay attention, it's just more pandering.
she knows her sound bites.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)to them, it sounds great and gee, kinda like bernie, except that they won't notice the difference that Bernie wants to break the banks up now. Hillary knows that if the banks collapse at their current size the economy is over. But she knows it makes a good sound bite and to the low info voter, they'll think she's copying Bernie again.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)You don't suck up their cash like a Hoover and then turn around and play hard ball with them. If you believe her words in that instance...I have a bridge you might be interested in buying. It's not a bridge in America so you won't have to worry about repair costs.
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)This is what I think her thinking is:
1) The banks aren't going to fail again in the next 8 years anyway. So there's that.
2) If they do, it would be years down the road and I can say "I know what I said on Colbert and I meant every word of it, but that was in 2015 and, as we all know, a lot of things have changed since then. I have more information, there's this, and there's that, and blah, blah, blah, BLAH!"
Her friends and benefactors will get whatever they need.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)but i can't exactly remember what the words were, but she dropped it for later "plausible deniability", just in case. She sucks Bank money up like an Industrial Hoover, she can never, nor would she ever, break up the banks.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)What a load of baloney.
She loves Big Money, being a Proud Capitalist!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The problem is not letting them "fail". There have to be consequences for the people that caused the problem in the first place.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Which would be any time any one of her sponsors tell her NOT to let them fail.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)a big bank fail they take everything else with them. Everything they are involved with.
In breaking up the banks we can afford to have a smaller bank fail because it does not touch everything else. It is safer to have all kinds of small banks.
She said Dodd-Frank would keep them from failing? I thought that the only thing that did was make sure we the taxpayers would never have to bail them out again.
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)I do think we will be revisiting this scenario soon. Better bookmark this.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)No one would...
Calista241
(5,586 posts)If Bank of America were to fail, that's 200,000 people out of a job on day 1. That doesn't even include all the satellite companies and other businesses that have deep relationships with BofA that will lay off a shit-ton of people due to loss of business.
It's easy to say "sure I'll let them fail" on late night tv, and when you're not responsible for anything. It's much harder to do when shit is actually going down.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Her record implies she'd do nothing of the sort.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Plenty of qualifiers, which makes sense. Obviously, the financial reforms have to be passed and implemented first that make sure the collapse of a big bank doesn't completely wreck the economy. "Too big to fail" needs to be an impossibility.