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Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 05:55 PM Oct 2015

I'm Sorry : Blair Takes Blame For Iraq War And Admits conflict Caused The rise Of ISIS In Astonshing

Source: UK Daily Mail

Tony Blair has finally said sorry for the Iraq War – and admitted he could be partly to blame for the rise of Islamic State.
The extraordinary confession by the former Prime Minister comes after 12 years in which he refused to apologise for the conflict.
Blair makes his dramatic ‘mea culpa’ during a TV interview about the ‘hell’ caused by his and George Bush’s decision to oust Saddam Hussein.
Tony Blair, who has finally said sorry for the Iraq War during an interview on CNN, which is due to be broadcast today
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Tony Blair, who has finally said sorry for the Iraq War during an interview on CNN, which is due to be broadcast today
In the exchange, Blair repeatedly says sorry for his conduct and even refers to claims that the invasion was a war ‘crime’ – while denying he committed one.
Blair is asked bluntly in the CNN interview, to be broadcast today: ‘Was the Iraq War a mistake?’

He replies: ‘I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong.
‘I also apologise for some of the mistakes in planning and, certainly, our mistake in our understanding of what would happen once you removed the regime.’
Challenged that the Iraq War was ‘the principal cause’ of the rise of Islamic State, he said: ‘I think there are elements of truth in that.
As well as apologising for the Iraq War, the former Prime Minister also admitted he could be partly to blame for the rise of Islamic State
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As well as apologising for the Iraq War, the former Prime Minister also admitted he could be partly to blame for the rise of Islamic State
The TV interview by respected US political broadcaster Fareed Zakaria, also sees Blair be accused of being George Bush's 'poodle' over the conflict
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The TV interview by respected US political broadcaster Fareed Zakaria, also sees Blair be accused of being George Bush's 'poodle' over the conflict
'Of course you can’t say those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.’
In the ‘trial by TV’, respected US political broadcaster Fareed Zakaria accuses him of being President Bush’s ‘poodle’ over the conflict. Blair’s confession comes a week after The Mail on Sunday published a bombshell White House memo revealing for the first time how Blair and Bush agreed a ‘deal in blood’ a year before the invasion.
A 2002 briefing note from US Secretary of State Colin Powell to the President showed Blair had secretly pledged to back the conflict – while telling MPs and British voters that he was seeking a diplomatic solution.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287982/I-m-sorry-Blair-takes-blame-Iraq-War-admits-conflict-caused-rise-ISIS-astonishing-apology-TV-show.html

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I'm Sorry : Blair Takes Blame For Iraq War And Admits conflict Caused The rise Of ISIS In Astonshing (Original Post) Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2015 OP
Seemed so unlikely, I was waiting for an Onion punchline (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2015 #1
Yeah, me too mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #15
I occurs to me that the rise of ISIS and the situation of all jwirr Oct 2015 #47
The refusal of Obama to investigate the Iraq fiasco was a vast error in judgment. olegramps Oct 2015 #91
Obama had to look forward, not back, so that Republicans would be willing to work with him. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #92
IOKIYAR Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #94
Could someone translate this for an old out of touch fart. olegramps Oct 2015 #96
Sorry. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #98
Thanks olegramps Oct 2015 #101
Now, can we finally have some action BlueMTexpat Oct 2015 #2
By golly sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #7
Here, here... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2015 #35
beyond words what I am thinking right now rurallib Oct 2015 #3
No punishment for mass murderers FuzzyRabbit Oct 2015 #51
Well, that will surely seal GWB's legacy (and Jeb's fate) hlthe2b Oct 2015 #4
I hope so on all 3 accounts. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #6
no, it's foreign news, will have no impact here in the USA Demonaut Oct 2015 #27
He said it in an interview with Fareed Zakaria on CNN. MoonchildCA Oct 2015 #64
Cheney flosses with barbed wire. That sociopath doesn't care what Blair said. bulloney Oct 2015 #38
Yes! And Cheney doesn't agree with ANYTHING anyone thinks re; Iraq. maddiemom Oct 2015 #87
Still lying FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #5
My thoughts exactly TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #14
Well, I did, SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #17
Quite - you knew TubbersUK Oct 2015 #37
Anyone with even a cursory familiarity with the Internet FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #22
There is absolutely no doubt he knew the "intellegence" was a big lie LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #104
Exactly TubbersUK Oct 2015 #18
I almost choked when I read that. passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #19
Of course hibbing Oct 2015 #72
Not really much of an apology is it? T_i_B Oct 2015 #79
Jail! every single fucking one of them! marym625 Oct 2015 #8
+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #42
Jail hell, hang them just like they did Saddam. n/t Hotler Oct 2015 #90
"I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong." arcane1 Oct 2015 #9
A classic non apology apology. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #23
The sincerity was just oozing out of every orifice! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #24
If that is the best he can do at throwing W and Cheney under the bus, he still isn't silvershadow Oct 2015 #49
That's what pissed me off. Not wrong. Manufactured. Intentionally misleading millions of us. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #78
Insincere. "I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong." pa28 Oct 2015 #10
Similar to "I'm sorry if what I said offended you." Half assed ass covering bullshit. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #11
+1 cui bono Oct 2015 #13
Could also be to do with the Chilcot Report TubbersUK Oct 2015 #28
I wonder if the emails between him and Dubya that were found recently BeanMusical Oct 2015 #41
Also notable that CNN was the chosen platform T_i_B Oct 2015 #80
What a lying piece of crap! They fixed the intelligence. He's admitted nothing that's true. frizzled Oct 2015 #12
We're sorry Liberalagogo Oct 2015 #16
Hysterical! Thanks for the laugh! smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #100
Thirdway all the way! Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #20
. libodem Oct 2015 #21
he's either extremely weak or extremely stupid...I agree with Fareed, extremely weak Demonaut Oct 2015 #25
I do believe we will soon see a statement from Captain Bunnypants Android3.14 Oct 2015 #26
" ‘I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong." madfloridian Oct 2015 #29
But JEB! said W kept us safe!!! ('cept the time he didn't) Is this another 'cept. ToxMarz Oct 2015 #30
I guess Liz & Dick Cheney may have to lay low Jarqui Oct 2015 #31
The Rt Hon Tony is still doing well from working for JP Morgan Chase, his book, foundation appalachiablue Oct 2015 #32
"I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong." truebluegreen Oct 2015 #33
Exactly, still blaming bad intelligence. NCcoast Oct 2015 #52
He admits it! UCmeNdc Oct 2015 #34
Ya think Bush and Cheney will apologize? SmittynMo Oct 2015 #36
Right, Mr Cheney SCantiGOP Oct 2015 #39
That was my first thought NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #46
They both have SmittynMo Oct 2015 #57
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #40
"I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong." tabasco Oct 2015 #43
Now if only our "great leaders" would just recognize just how jwirr Oct 2015 #44
Rorry, Poodle, the mea culpa is not enough Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #45
So he's sorry but not really because ... ananda Oct 2015 #48
someone fucked them over by not planting the evidence in the field. I so bbgrunt Oct 2015 #50
I remember that, bbgrunt. Duval Oct 2015 #58
That was an apology in the way that "I'm sorry if you have a problem with what I did" is an apology. djean111 Oct 2015 #53
The end result will be sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #54
Seems to me he is apologizing for the "intelligence we received." nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #55
You should edit this OP t remove all the repetition. These points are repeated verbatim THREE times tblue37 Oct 2015 #56
did he have Kelly's body stripped and moved after a suicide, or is the story even darker? MisterP Oct 2015 #59
I wonder if T. Blair is the planet's most hated human being frizzled Oct 2015 #60
"I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong. " Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #61
We have to act... Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #62
Did I just hear the sound of paint brushes hitting the ground in Texas? Gregorian Oct 2015 #63
Yeah, because nothing says "I'm sorry" more than mountain grammy Oct 2015 #65
Still weaseling away from any responsibility or genuine apology suffragette Oct 2015 #66
This FUCKING POLTROON, in typical Republican style, is sorry he got caught . . . hatrack Oct 2015 #67
A Good First Step --- BUT DallasNE Oct 2015 #68
I'm sorry the intelligence was wrong???? Iggo Oct 2015 #69
hang him reddread Oct 2015 #70
Did someone mention the Hague? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #71
so he apologized with lies yurbud Oct 2015 #73
Someone must be applying pressure to bush's lapdog. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #74
Amazing: a neo-liberal with a conscience? Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #75
Or he was visited by the Ghost of Christmas future mdbl Oct 2015 #82
Or was there writing on the wall: Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #89
No epiphany not fooled Oct 2015 #102
And Blair is likely to be criticised harshly. Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #103
It's funny that we knew all the info they are investigating at the time it happened mdbl Oct 2015 #108
Not quite as strong as this headline suggests; the Daily Mail tends to sensationalize LeftishBrit Oct 2015 #76
Yep T_i_B Oct 2015 #81
Send his ass to the ICC Truprogressive85 Oct 2015 #77
Recommend~ Now What? KoKo Oct 2015 #83
Not much T_i_B Oct 2015 #85
WOWZA! merrily Oct 2015 #84
Apology while blaming everyone else. Hallow and worthless just like him. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #86
For Gods sake Tony, shutup and go away. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #88
Did he say "I'm sorry Alastair Campbell made up the Dodgy Dossier for me to start the war?" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #93
Oh yeah, the Sexy Dossier. Gregorian Oct 2015 #99
Then Tony, the British and Dutch royal families, the bushes and neo-cons need to pay for the Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #95
CNN Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2015 #97
Blair apologizes for the "intelligence that was wrong..." gregcrawford Oct 2015 #105
Here's the keen, insightful Intelligence that Poodleboy and Hillary should have trusted: Zorra Oct 2015 #106
. libodem Oct 2015 #107

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
47. I occurs to me that the rise of ISIS and the situation of all
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:11 PM
Oct 2015

the refugees in Europe might well be enough to make this man see the light. I doubt anything will every make our leaders feel that way.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
91. The refusal of Obama to investigate the Iraq fiasco was a vast error in judgment.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

The run-up to the Iraq war should be investigated extensively by congress. It constituted one of the most blatant abuses of power in the history of the presidency. While the Republicans hold extensive investigative commissions at the cost of millions that are totally trumped up nonsense, the Democrats shrug their shoulders and let this atrocity to be sweep under the rug. This only embolden the criminal Cheney to spew his lies virtually without contradiction. The only explanation that I can imagine is that the Democrats didn't what their own incompetence to be publicly exposed.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
92. Obama had to look forward, not back, so that Republicans would be willing to work with him.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

Oh, wait...

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
3. beyond words what I am thinking right now
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:02 PM
Oct 2015

But Tony and W will peacefully live out their lives unencumbered by paying for their sins and probably feeling no guilt at all.

Wish their was a hell.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
51. No punishment for mass murderers
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:26 PM
Oct 2015

You are right. If you cause the death of one person, you will be punished.

But if you cause the deaths of tens of thousands, you probably will not be punished, but allowed to peacefully live out your life like Idi Amin, Stalin, Mao Tze-Tung, Yahya Khan, Kim Jong Il, and our own George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and their co-conspirators.


MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
64. He said it in an interview with Fareed Zakaria on CNN.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:35 PM
Oct 2015

...though it still probably won't have an impact here, unfortunately.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
87. Yes! And Cheney doesn't agree with ANYTHING anyone thinks re; Iraq.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:09 AM
Oct 2015

HE was 100% RIGHT and that's that.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,204 posts)
14. My thoughts exactly
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:34 PM
Oct 2015

But I do wonder if he KNEW the "intelligence" was a pack of manufactured lies when he made the deal with Bush.

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
37. Quite - you knew
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:25 PM
Oct 2015

as did I and various members of Blair's own cabinet plus millions of protestors in London and around the world, Hans Blix and the UN weapons inspectorate, the French and many other governments.................... etc etc

He knew and he lied.



FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
22. Anyone with even a cursory familiarity with the Internet
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:52 PM
Oct 2015

Would know that the intelligence was a pack of manufactured lies

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
104. There is absolutely no doubt he knew the "intellegence" was a big lie
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:07 PM
Oct 2015

The Downing Street memo reveals as much:

"..the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
18. Exactly
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:43 PM
Oct 2015

The same old excuse he's been using for years.

ETA: I wonder if the Chilcot report is about to be published at long last and he's polishing up his defence in preparation.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
72. Of course
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:17 AM
Oct 2015

The always mentioned "faulty intelligence",the same excuse people that voted for the war in Iraq use. Odd how so many people outside of the bubble knew it was not faulty, but outright falsified. Post after post on here by so many.

Peace

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
24. The sincerity was just oozing out of every orifice!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:00 PM
Oct 2015

What a crock of shit. “BUT HE TOLD ME THERE WERE WMDs!!!"

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
49. If that is the best he can do at throwing W and Cheney under the bus, he still isn't
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:19 PM
Oct 2015

isn't good for much.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
78. That's what pissed me off. Not wrong. Manufactured. Intentionally misleading millions of us.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:47 AM
Oct 2015

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pa28

(6,145 posts)
10. Insincere. "I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong."
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:08 PM
Oct 2015

‘I also apologise for some of the mistakes in planning and, certainly, our mistake in our understanding of what would happen once you (meaning the U.S.) removed the regime.’

He's effectively shifting all the blame from himself. IMO the only reason he offered this false apology is the recent Labour election repudiating the Blairites and electing Jeremy Corbyn. Remember, Corbyn suggested that Blair should be held accountable for war crimes.

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
28. Could also be to do with the Chilcot Report
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:03 PM
Oct 2015

Chilcot has been running a public enquiry into the UK's role in the Iraq war.

His report is long overdue and he's recently come under a lot of pressure to publish it.

Maybe it's imminent and Tony is rehearsing his response.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
41. I wonder if the emails between him and Dubya that were found recently
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:44 PM
Oct 2015

have also helped to trigger this.

T_i_B

(14,740 posts)
80. Also notable that CNN was the chosen platform
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:12 AM
Oct 2015

Blairite politics have become very unpopular in the UK.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
26. I do believe we will soon see a statement from Captain Bunnypants
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:01 PM
Oct 2015

George W. fucked up everything.
Everything.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
29. " ‘I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong."
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:03 PM
Oct 2015

That's a non apology.

Let's talk about all the planning and working together with our country's Democrats.

The Blair Democrats: Ready for Battle

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
31. I guess Liz & Dick Cheney may have to lay low
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:09 PM
Oct 2015

for a while hoping folks forget this ... (like they have with the other condemning evidence ..)

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
32. The Rt Hon Tony is still doing well from working for JP Morgan Chase, his book, foundation
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:10 PM
Oct 2015

and charity work. And with 6 homes. 'New Labour' is the Brit equivalent of Third Way I guess. Some apology-

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
33. "I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong."
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:11 PM
Oct 2015

iow: I'm really, really sorry we were led astray by those incompetent hacks in the clandestine services. We would certainly have had no reason to invade Iraq if it weren't for those assholes! It's not like Iraq had any oil or anything.





Fucker(s).

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
57. They both have
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:45 PM
Oct 2015

been trained to believe the bullshit answers they were using. It's justification in their small, twisted, corrupt minds.

You'll NEVER hear I'm sorry from them. NEVER!!!!

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
43. "I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong."
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:57 PM
Oct 2015

Yeah, right, Tony. The intelligence you knew was cooked was wrong. You belong in a cell, lying war criminal.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
44. Now if only our "great leaders" would just recognize just how
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:08 PM
Oct 2015

wrong they were. Yes, for many years we had planned to access the oil in that area but it took the bush family and cheney to decide that we would take in by force rather than pay for it.

I wonder if they ever consider how much cheaper it would have been just to buy the damned stuff?

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
45. Rorry, Poodle, the mea culpa is not enough
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:08 PM
Oct 2015

We want a full confession. Then maybe we'll think about getting you off with a light sentence in The Hague. We want evidence that not even the historical revisionists at the Texas state board of education can ignore.

Seeing Dick Cheney rot in an eight by ten foot cell will be worth letting you walk.

Now, about those telegrams to and from Secretary Powell . . . please take all the time you need and don't leave anything out.

Oh, yes, and please explain what was meant by the Bush administration was "fixing the facts" to fit the policy.

Was the errant wrong because the Big Dick wanted it wrong?

Oh, yes, and what do you know, if anything, about the meeting of Vice Premier Cheney's energy task force meeting when Iraq was divided up among western oil corporations?

ananda

(28,867 posts)
48. So he's sorry but not really because ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:15 PM
Oct 2015

... he's using that old like about getting bad information.

Even I had truthful info back then.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
50. someone fucked them over by not planting the evidence in the field. I so
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:22 PM
Oct 2015

hope that this doesn't end with his "apology".

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
58. I remember that, bbgrunt.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:48 PM
Oct 2015

Also remember a certain memo sent by Cheney, that has been sent into the deep bowels of the earth or some where out in space.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
53. That was an apology in the way that "I'm sorry if you have a problem with what I did" is an apology.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:41 PM
Oct 2015

NOT an apology. Not taking blame.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
55. Seems to me he is apologizing for the "intelligence we received." nt
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:43 PM
Oct 2015

‘I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong.
‘I also apologise for some of the mistakes in planning and, certainly, our mistake in our understanding of what would happen once you removed the regime.’

tblue37

(65,409 posts)
56. You should edit this OP t remove all the repetition. These points are repeated verbatim THREE times
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:44 PM
Oct 2015

in the post!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
59. did he have Kelly's body stripped and moved after a suicide, or is the story even darker?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015

whatever it took to get that war going

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
63. Did I just hear the sound of paint brushes hitting the ground in Texas?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:20 PM
Oct 2015

Also, intelligence wasn't "wrong", it was manipulated. Go directly to jail, do not collect two hundred dollars.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
65. Yeah, because nothing says "I'm sorry" more than
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:29 PM
Oct 2015

blaming faulty intelligence. Well, Tony, you were the faulty intelligence.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
67. This FUCKING POLTROON, in typical Republican style, is sorry he got caught . . .
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015

Beyond that, now that what HE did affects HIS country, with 100s of thousands, maybe millions displaced by a useless war of choice HIS lying bullshit helped create heading HIS way . . .

NOW it's time for candor and confession.

FUCK. YOU. TONY. BLAIR.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
68. A Good First Step --- BUT
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:29 AM
Oct 2015

While a good first step, Blair does not go nearly far enough in his comments here. How can he claim to say "sorry" and still not say the war was a mistake. It comes across as insincere. Of course he blames the faulty intelligence yet the best intelligence available said Saddam had no WMD and not even a program to develop them. Here I am talking about the findings of the UN weapons inspectors who were on the ground. Here they claim they were duped by Cheney and Rumsfeld but that is a lame excuse because they were responsible for taking an independent measure of the situation and they did not, apparently thinking that Cheney and Rumsfeld would not lie to them. That is always a fatal failure.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
75. Amazing: a neo-liberal with a conscience?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:43 AM
Oct 2015

Did he have some actual epiphany after Corbyn won the Labour leadership?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
89. Or was there writing on the wall:
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:43 AM
Oct 2015

1. Corbyn saying he wants to negociate with extremist groups rather than drone-bomb them
2. Trudeau in Canada, pulling out of the military efforts that are a result of the 2003 invasion
3...

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
102. No epiphany
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:03 AM
Oct 2015

What prompted Bush's Poodle to spew is probably the inevitable if not imminent release of the Chilcot Inquiry's report:

"The Iraq Inquiry, also referred to as the Chilcot Inquiry after its chairman, Sir John Chilcot,[1][2] is a British public inquiry into the nation's role in the Iraq War. The inquiry was announced on 15 June 2009 by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, with an initial announcement that proceedings would take place in private, a decision which was subsequently reversed after receiving criticism in the media and the House of Commons.[3][4][5]

The Inquiry was pursued by a committee of Privy Counsellors with broad terms of reference to consider Britain's involvement in Iraq between mid-2001 and July 2009. It covered the run-up to the conflict, the subsequent military action and its aftermath with the purpose to establish the way decisions were made, to determine what happened and to identify lessons to ensure that in a similar situation in future, the British government is equipped to respond in the most effective manner in the best interests of the country.[6] The open sessions of the inquiry commenced on 24 November 2009 and concluded on 2 February 2011...

...The million-word report of the Inquiry was due to be released to the public by 2014,[8] but difficult negotiations were continuing with the United States over the publication of documents.[9] The Lord-in-Waiting Lord Wallace of Saltaire said on behalf of the government that it would be "inappropriate" to publish the report in the months leading up to the next general election in May 2015.[10]

In August it transpired that the Report would in any event be further delayed, possibly into 2016. This was said to be due to the legal requirement of "Maxwellisation", allowing any person who is to be criticised a fair opportunity to comment on a draft prior to finalisation and publication"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Inquiry[link:http://|


]http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/



mdbl

(4,973 posts)
108. It's funny that we knew all the info they are investigating at the time it happened
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 08:40 PM
Oct 2015

It was obviously a setup by Bush and Blair, but let's keep doing inquiries. What a waste of time and money. The weapons inspectors told those morons they were wrong from the beginning. I am still amazed this country could be whipped into a frenzy of stupidity over a bunch of lies. Never thought I would see that, but there it happened. First they put a total moron in the white house then follow him over the cliff.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
76. Not quite as strong as this headline suggests; the Daily Mail tends to sensationalize
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:49 AM
Oct 2015

Tony hasn't apologized for the war, just for making certain mistakes in the planning; and still defends the decision to go into Iraq.

From the BBC news site:

Tony Blair has apologised for mistakes during the Iraq War - and said there were "elements of truth" to claims it caused the rise of Islamic State.

...But he again defended the invasion, saying it was "hard to apologise" for removing Saddam Hussein and that Iraq might have become like Syria otherwise...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34630380


I can't really imagine Blair ever apologizing for the war itself. Not that it would do much good at this stage, anyway!

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
77. Send his ass to the ICC
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:55 AM
Oct 2015

How any Iraqi lives were lost

Does he even care ?

Saying sorry won't do nothing for the people that lost their love ones.

I rather see him in a prion cell rotting away till his last days.

T_i_B

(14,740 posts)
85. Not much
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:44 AM
Oct 2015

Blair and his followers will remain unpopular with the voting public and will continue plotting against the current Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. Many of these people have never forgiven Corbyn for having been dead right about the Iraq War.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
93. Did he say "I'm sorry Alastair Campbell made up the Dodgy Dossier for me to start the war?"
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:58 PM
Oct 2015

No, I didn't think so.

Iraq – Its Infrastructure of Concealment, Deception and Intimidation[1] (more commonly known as the Dodgy Dossier, the Iraq Dossier or the February Dossier) [2]) was a 2003 briefing document for the British Prime Minister Tony Blair's Labour Party government. It was issued to journalists on 3 February 2003 by Alastair Campbell, Blair's Director of Communications and Strategy, and concerned Iraq and weapons of mass destruction. Together with the earlier September dossier, these documents were ultimately used by the government to justify its involvement in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The term Dodgy Dossier was first coined by online polemical magazine Spiked in relation to the September Dossier.[3] The term was later employed by Channel 4 News when its reporter, Julian Rush,[4][5] was made aware of Glen Rangwala's discovery[6] that much of the work in the Iraq Dossier had been plagiarised from various unattributed sources. The most notable source was an article by then graduate student Ibrahim al-Marashi, entitled Iraq's Security and Intelligence Network: A Guide and Analysis,[7]

Whole sections of Marashi's writings on "Saddam's Special Security Organisation" were repeated verbatim including typographical errors, while certain amendments were made to strengthen the tone of the alleged findings (e.g., "monitoring foreign embassies in Iraq" became "spying on foreign embassies in Iraq", and "aiding opposition groups in hostile regimes" became "supporting terrorist organisations in hostile regimes&quot .

In its opening paragraph the briefing document claimed that it drew "upon a number of sources, including intelligence material." Before the document's release it had been praised by Tony Blair and United States Secretary of State Colin Powell as further intelligence and quality research.[8] The day after Channel 4's exposé, Blair's office issued a statement admitting that a mistake was made in not crediting its sources, but did not concede that the quality of the document's content was affected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Dossier

Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Assessment of the British Government, also known as the September Dossier, was a document published by the British government on 24 September 2002 on the same day of a recall of Parliament to discuss the contents of the document.[1] The paper was part of an ongoing investigation by the government into weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq, which ultimately led to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It contained a number of allegations according to which Iraq also possessed WMD, including chemical weapons and biological weapons. The dossier even alleged that Iraq had reconstituted its nuclear weapons programme. Without exception, all of the allegations included within the September Dossier have been since proven to be false, as shown by the Iraq Survey Group.
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However, two sections later became the centre of fierce debate: the allegation that Iraq had sought "significant quantities of uranium from Africa", and the claim in the foreword to the document written by British Prime Minister Tony Blair that "The document discloses that his military planning allows for some of the WMD to be ready within 45 minutes of an order to use them."[3]

Britain's biggest selling popular daily newspaper, The Sun, subsequently carried the headline "Brits 45mins from doom",[4] while the Daily Star reported "Mad Saddam ready to attack: 45 minutes from a chemical war",[5] helping to create the impression among the British public that Iraq was a threat to Britain.

Major General Michael Laurie, one of those involved in producing the dossier wrote to the Chilcot Inquiry in 2011 saying "the purpose of the dossier was precisely to make a case for war, rather than setting out the available intelligence, and that to make the best out of sparse and inconclusive intelligence the wording was developed with care."[6] On 26 June 2011, The Observer reported on a memo from John Scarlett to Blair's foreign affairs adviser, released under the Freedom of Information Act, which referred to "the benefit of obscuring the fact that in terms of WMD Iraq is not that exceptional". The memo has been described as one of the most significant documents on the September dossier yet published as it is considered a proposal to mislead the public.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Dossier

"the intelligence we received was wrong" - no, you demanded false intelligence, massaged it, sexed it up, plagiarised it and made it look more up to date than it was, and then misrepresented it. And finally, if anyone in the media said something misleading about it (like the '45 minutes'), you never tried to correct the false impression.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
99. Oh yeah, the Sexy Dossier.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:18 PM
Oct 2015

Pinochet didn't have the internet. I think information is moving so quickly, these guys know they're in for trouble.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
95. Then Tony, the British and Dutch royal families, the bushes and neo-cons need to pay for the
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

damage and destruction they have created.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
97. CNN
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:56 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/europe/tony-blair-iraq-war/index.html

Tony Blair says he's sorry for Iraq War 'mistakes,' but not for ousting Saddam

I can say that I apologize for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong because, even though he had used chemical weapons extensively against his own people, against others, the program in the form that we thought it was did not exist in the way that we thought," Blair said in an exclusive interview on CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS that airs Sunday.

Blair was referring to the claim that Saddam's regime possessed weapons of mass destruction, which was used by the U.S. and British governments to justify launching the invasion. But the intelligence reports the claim was based on turned out to be false.

Fareed asks Bush's Deputy Defense Secretary on Iraq

Fareed asks Bush's Deputy Defense Secretary on Iraq 03:10
The ensuing war and dismantling of Saddam's government plunged Iraq into chaos, resulting in years of deadly sectarian violence and the rise of al Qaeda in Iraq, a precursor of ISIS. Tens of thousands of Iraqis, more than 4,000 U.S. troops and 179 British service members were killed in the lengthy conflict.

As the most high-profile foreign ally of former U.S. President George W. Bush in the Iraq invasion, Blair has found his legacy overshadowed by the war, with questions and criticism following him wherever he goes.


gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
105. Blair apologizes for the "intelligence that was wrong..."
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:22 PM
Oct 2015

... doesn't he mean the intelligence that he helped Dubya and Satan - I mean, Cheney - manufacture?

What scum...

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
106. Here's the keen, insightful Intelligence that Poodleboy and Hillary should have trusted:
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:41 PM
Oct 2015



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