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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:32 AM Oct 2015

Al-Qaeda leader in Syria is killed in Aleppo in a 'devastating blow' to terror group

Source: Daily Mail UK

It is believed he was killed in the Syrian capital of Aleppo.

The cause of his death has not yet been confirmed.

However, it is considered a devastating blow to the terror group's operations in the war torn Middle Eastern country.

Al-Nusra - or The Front for the Defence of the Syrian People - is considered the second most powerful jihadist group in Syria after the Islamic State



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287566/Al-Qaeda-s-leader-Syria-Sheikh-Abu-Sulaiman-Al-Masri-killed-Aleppo.html



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Al-Qaeda leader in Syria is killed in Aleppo in a 'devastating blow' to terror group (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 OP
Al-Qaeda leaders always seem to get rapidly replaced uawchild Oct 2015 #1
Any group would replace a killed leader, 7962 Oct 2015 #5
Or it is the western media favorite unchallengeable breaking news - IMO. n/t mazzarro Oct 2015 #6
Al-Qaeda reminds me of Hydra, from Marvel Comics. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #2
Damn Putin and the Russian military, America is supposed to be killing the terrorists it created. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #3
LOL. Put down your pompoms. tabasco Oct 2015 #8
Russia's allies, the Kurds, who are also America's allies, and the Iranians allies, the Kurds got Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #13
Any evidence for that? tabasco Oct 2015 #14
Geez, why the upset....just connecting the dots as I see them. No offence! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #15
"The graveyards are full of indispensible men." sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #4
that's a great quote n/t uawchild Oct 2015 #7
And indispensible nations too. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #25
Can't say I'm shedding any tears for the fucker. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #9
Actually some in the US government consider al nusra to be "moderate" al Qaeda Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #10
Sort of like moderate Nazis... n/t backscatter712 Oct 2015 #11
Clinton wanted to arm them too. former9thward Oct 2015 #19
But this face-rug guy appears in the posed ISIS photos. CJCRANE Oct 2015 #21
so al Qaeda is now "crippled"? The war's almost over? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #12
Meanwhile (according to Twitter) MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2015 #16
That would be an incredibly poor tactical move for ISIS. Chan790 Oct 2015 #17
Oil reservoir found in Golan Heights, says company Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #18
This is the guy in the iconic ISIS group photo. CJCRANE Oct 2015 #20
The Amish Jihadi. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #24
Love this song :) Marrah_G Oct 2015 #26
That is one huge mess over there Red Knight Oct 2015 #22
I can't recall if this is good or bad daleo Oct 2015 #23

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
1. Al-Qaeda leaders always seem to get rapidly replaced
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:40 AM
Oct 2015

We heard this in Iraq, how many prominent Al-Qaeda leaders were being killed every week. Now we're hearing the same thing in Syria.
The thing is, AL Qaeda seems to have an inexhaustible supply of leaders. Is it all just public relations to convince us there is light at the end of the tunnel?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
5. Any group would replace a killed leader,
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

its the competence of the replacements that is a factor. Replace a guy who has a strategic mind with someone who doesnt have that quality and the fighting force will degrade. You see it with most any military group. It can backfire; you could replace a good leader with someone who turns out to be great.
Its especially more important with forces such as those in the ME, or Russia, China, N Korea. These forces put a great deal of control at the top and very little at the bottom. Take out their leaders, and the larger force can become aimless with no idea how to coordinate actions.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. Al-Qaeda reminds me of Hydra, from Marvel Comics.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:40 AM
Oct 2015

Cut off a head an two will grow back.

And the war continues.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
8. LOL. Put down your pompoms.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:38 PM
Oct 2015
"One of al Qaeda's senior commanders in Syria has been killed in a gun battle with Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) paramilitants in Aleppo."

"He was killed while fighting against Kurdish forces, suffering a fatal wound to his head."


Maybe you missed that. It's the first sentence in the linked article.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Russia's allies, the Kurds, who are also America's allies, and the Iranians allies, the Kurds got
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:06 PM
Oct 2015

him?

Good for them....the Russians are flushing out the rats for the ground forces allied with them to kill.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
14. Any evidence for that?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 04:00 PM
Oct 2015

That is, any evidence that a Russian operation had anything to do with this Kurdish operation?

Or just making shit up?

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
4. "The graveyards are full of indispensible men."
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:15 PM
Oct 2015

Charles de Gaulle

Any organization worth the name has a ready to advance chain of command.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. Can't say I'm shedding any tears for the fucker.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:07 PM
Oct 2015

I know it's a quagmire, but at the same time, any time a member of ISIS gets shot in the face, an angel gets his wings.

BOOM! Ding! Hear the bell?

former9thward

(32,028 posts)
19. Clinton wanted to arm them too.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:56 PM
Oct 2015
Hillary Clinton favoured arming Syria's rebels early in the country's civil war but was overruled by Barack Obama, the former secretary of state said in her new memoir, according to CBS News.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/06/hillary-clinton-arming-syrian-rebels-memoir

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
21. But this face-rug guy appears in the posed ISIS photos.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:42 AM
Oct 2015

There's a couple of famous ones of him striking a pose, standing in front of a bunch of masked Isis goons.

So is he Al Qaeda or Isis?

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
16. Meanwhile (according to Twitter)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 04:57 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:40 AM - Edit history (1)

It's kicking-off on the Israeli-Syria border (Golan Heights). Lots of aircraft, heavy exchanges of gunfire. Possibly a downed aircraft/hostage situation.

UPDATE :

Israel: Arab citizen uses paraglider to infiltrate Syria

JERUSALEM (AP) — An Arab citizen of Israel using a paraglider flew into neighboring Syria, the Israeli military said Sunday, in what appeared to be an intentional attempt to join a rebel group there.

Military officials said a 23-year-old from an Arab town in Israel planned the maneuver with the intent of joining Syrian rebel fighters. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the still-under-investigation case with the media.

Dozens of Arab citizens of Israel have sneaked into Syria in recent years to join the civil war. This would appear to be the first case of someone doing so via air.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his Cabinet Sunday that he would work to revoke the man's citizenship.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/becbb11634ad4a469bfd27107442814b/israel-arab-citizen-uses-paraglider-infiltrate-syria#overlay-context=article/0ba7e879d86d40618fa4e9223c22b2b2/southeast-texas-get-heavy-rain-people-told-be-patient
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
17. That would be an incredibly poor tactical move for ISIS.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:09 PM
Oct 2015

The IDF plays for keeps. Just ask people from Southern Lebanon old enough to remember the Lebanese Civil Wars.

There's only one way this will end...with Israel owning a larger chunk of Western Syria than they already control.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
18. Oil reservoir found in Golan Heights, says company
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:15 PM
Oct 2015

An oil reservoir has been discovered in the Golan Heights, Israeli energy company Afek officially revealed on Monday.

The company, which previously only hunted at the discovery, on Monday requested permission to drill additional wells in the area.


"Initial findings from the drilling confirm the discovery of an oil reservoir in the Golan and further justifies continuing the exploration program," said the request. "We need more time for this."

In recent months Afek, a subsidiary of American company Genie Energy, has been drilling for oil in the Golan Heights. Its request to search for oil in the area was controversial.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4699008,00.html

Who is on the board of Genie

-Michael Steinhardt (SAB Chairman)
Noted Wall Street investor and Principal Manager, Steinhardt Management LLC. Founder Steinhardt, Fine, Berkowitz & Co., and noted philanthropist.

-Marry Landrieu
United States Senator from Louisiana from 1996 to 2014. Senator Landrieu served as chair of the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. In her capacity as chair, she sponsored and passed the U.S.-Israel Energy Cooperation Bill. The bill fosters partnerships focused on developing resources such as natural gas and alternative fuels, on the academic, business and governmental levels.

-Rupert Murdoch
Founder and Executive Chairman of News Corporation, one of the world’s largest diversified media companies. News Corporation’s holdings include Fox Entertainment, Dow Jones and Company, the New York Post, HarperCollins and significant media assets on six continents.

-Bill Richardson
Governor of New Mexico from 2003 to 2011. Mr. Richardson has served asU.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (1997-1998), Energy Secretary in the Clinton administration (1998-2001), Chairman of the 2004 Democratic National Convention, and as Chairman of the Democratic Governors Association.

-Jacob Rothschild, OM, GBE
Chairman of the J. Rothschild group of companies and of RIT Capital Partners plc. Chairman of Five Arrows Limited. Lord Rothschold is a noted philanthropist and Chairman of the Rothschild Foundation.

-Dr. Lawrence Summers
Charles W. Eliot University Professor and President Emeritus at Harvard University. Dr. Summers served as the 71st Secretary of the Treasury under President Clinton and as Director of the National Economic Council for President Obama.

-R. James Woolsey
Director of Central Intelligence from 1993 to 1995 and as Under Secretary of the Navy from 1977 to 1979. Mr. Woolsey is co-founder of the United States Energy Security Council and is Chairman of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

http://genieoilgas.com/about-us/strategic-advisory-board/

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
20. This is the guy in the iconic ISIS group photo.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:33 AM
Oct 2015

The one with the unmasked guy standing in the middle, with the ear to ear beard (no mustache), surrounded by masked fighters wearing black.

He was basically the Isis posterboy.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
22. That is one huge mess over there
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:55 AM
Oct 2015

The rebels,who want to replace Assad, are fighting ISIS first and in the meantime, Russia--who wants Assad to remain in power is hitting the rebels who are fighting ISIS and it's like a sad "Who's on First" routine. So much bloodshed, so little hope for real peace.

A confusing mess.

It seems before the issues with Assad can be resolved, ISIS has to go. There's a good Frontline episode about the rebels fighting them. But even if they eventually defeat them there is the uncertainty of what's next. It seems that radicals will just form some other group and the ugly mess will continue. It's frustrating with no end in sight. I don't even know where you begin to find a solution to the Middle East mess, right now.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
23. I can't recall if this is good or bad
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:59 AM
Oct 2015

I thought these guys were the moderate rebels now. Maybe that's changed, though.

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