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kpete

(72,028 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:53 AM May 2012

Lawyers Guild claims NATO activists "disappeared" without warrant or charges

Source: Chicago Examiner

Lawyers Guild claims NATO activists "disappeared" without warrant or charges

According to an interview with National Lawyers Guild (NLG) spokesman Kris Hermes, Chicago police officers raided a Bridgeport apartment complex on Wednesday evening without a valid warrant and detained up to nine people without cause.

The NLG is working in Chicago this week sending monitors to protests at the NATO Summit 2012 to insure activists rights are not violated. They are also functioning as lawyers for anyone detained during the week's activities.

The NLG worked through the night to locate the arrested activists. They were unable to get any information from the Chicago Police Department (CPD) or even any acknowledgement that a raid had taken place.


"We've called police officials at every level trying to find out where they were being held. We were denied any information at all about any people being arrested, let alone a raid happening last night. So essentially these people were disappeared for more than 12 hours until we could finally locate them," said NLG spokesman Kris Hermes.

Read more: http://www.examiner.com/article/lawyers-guild-claims-nato-activists-disappeared-without-warrant-or-charges

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Lawyers Guild claims NATO activists "disappeared" without warrant or charges (Original Post) kpete May 2012 OP
If they hate us for our freedoms, they should really hate us a lot less nowadays. denverbill May 2012 #1
Thank you. schmice May 2012 #14
Renditioned in Chicago. leveymg May 2012 #2
..." It's the Chicago way " may3rd May 2012 #35
It appears to be the Obama Admin. way. leveymg May 2012 #36
COINTELPRO Lives pscot May 2012 #3
This is what a police state looks like - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #4
Can we call it fascism yet?........ socialist_n_TN May 2012 #24
habeas corpus is such a quaint idea in a time of police state HereSince1628 May 2012 #5
Oh, it was only 12 hours gratuitous May 2012 #6
But it is legal now! Haven't you heard about the NDAA? sabrina 1 May 2012 #15
Gulags in Area 51 in Nevada coming soon n/t Smilo May 2012 #7
Nope they're all over here in AZ. lonestarnot May 2012 #29
Make fun of made-up gulags, but ignore the real ones in your own state. JackRiddler May 2012 #40
"Pre-Emptive" raids for Thought Crime now becoming SOP, bvar22 May 2012 #8
"Neither Political Party ... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #21
Amen to that! Vidar May 2012 #23
I'm gonna make a prediction bighughdiehl May 2012 #9
You're giving Freepers more credit than they are due. sabrina 1 May 2012 #16
"We are now officially Pinochet's Chile" dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #20
Way too sophisticated, and you're confusing Freepers with the Ron Paul base. JackRiddler May 2012 #41
(looking for updates). . . .n/t annabanana May 2012 #10
Welcome to the USA under the NDAA. Citizen Worker May 2012 #11
That was christx30 May 2012 #12
NATO Protesters Held Without Charge After Raid as Chicago Steps Up Police Activities Judi Lynn May 2012 #13
Where is Rahm, good democrat that he is, while his citizens are being wrongfully sabrina 1 May 2012 #17
I know right? Why is this Democratic Mayor allowing this? midnight May 2012 #26
This is what you get when you elect republicans Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #18
Chicago isn't a republican bastion... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #22
Rahm is mayor of Chicago, now. (nt) w4rma May 2012 #25
... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #27
Chicago has a Democratic Mayor. He is responsible for the actions of the police. sabrina 1 May 2012 #32
I know. I was being sarcastic. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #42
Oops, my mistake. Sorry! sabrina 1 May 2012 #43
'salright. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #44
It's Chicago, where lots of Germans disappeared. FarCenter May 2012 #19
The uniform serves the powerful. Dawson Leery May 2012 #28
found at the CPD Organized Crime Division police station lock up at 3340 W. Fillmore St. on the West lonestarnot May 2012 #30
Kevin Gosztola reports that the police called them EFerrari May 2012 #31
Interesting. That must be part of the 'strategy' to suppress dissent. Other protesters have sabrina 1 May 2012 #33
Too bad we lost the Cold War and the KGB won leveymg May 2012 #37
LOL EFerrari May 2012 #38
Nato protesters arrested in Chicago raid held on terrorism conspiracy charges Eugene May 2012 #34
"They had already been pulled over by police last week and asked about their protest plans"!!! Peace Patriot May 2012 #39

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Renditioned in Chicago.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:32 AM
May 2012

This is the kind of thing the KGB used to do to dissidents. Took away their mimeograph machines and vodka stills, too.

The more the facade of democracy in this empire crumbles, the petty violence and stupidity that's underneath it becomes clear.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
36. It appears to be the Obama Admin. way.
Sat May 19, 2012, 11:19 AM
May 2012

There was a federal presence in those false arrests, I'm sure.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. habeas corpus is such a quaint idea in a time of police state
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:06 AM
May 2012

This is an international MERT

The Grand Writ doesn't apply when everyone is a suspected to be a terrorist.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Oh, it was only 12 hours
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:31 AM
May 2012

Gee whiz, all you hand-wringers and your namby-pamby "concern" over "rights" and such! Heck, we're holding people at Guantanamo Bay for more than a decade now, without charge or trial. You don't hear them complaining do you? Okay, the far side of Cuba is a bit far away, but really, who are you going to believe - the worst of the worst terrorists or their lawful captors? If the Chicago PD took action, you must be assured that it was, like, totally lawful. Because they're the cops. Acting on orders. From top men. Top men!

Now, let's just put this nonsense behind us and get on to more vital news: Facebook's IPO! Whooo-eeeee!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. But it is legal now! Haven't you heard about the NDAA?
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:54 PM
May 2012

It was defended here on DU furiously airc. There was a signing statement that would guarantee no US Citizens would ever be subjected to having their Habeas Corpus rights abuses.

Btw, a court ruled that piece of garbage 'legislation' to be unconstitutional this week. What an embarrassment this 'land of the free' is becoming.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
40. Make fun of made-up gulags, but ignore the real ones in your own state.
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:09 PM
May 2012

The United States is home to the world's largest prison-industrial complex, providing near wage-free labor to private businesses, with many of the prisons themselves privately owned. While the penal institution complex may have finally peaked, the overall incarceration number continues to grow as tens of thousands are now detained by the immigration authorities. Adding a few thousand political prisoners a month - they would surely be called "terrorists" - would represent a growth in the gulag system, not the creation of one, and it would be located at prisons and jails and detention camps already operating in every state of the nation.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. "Pre-Emptive" raids for Thought Crime now becoming SOP,
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:14 PM
May 2012

...as are harassment arrests/releases without charges designed to suppress dissent.
This IS the New Normal, co-signed by BOTH dominant Political Parties,
with Centralized National Co-Ordination of Militarized Police Departments.

Neither Political Party is remotely interested in addressing or even acknowledging this problem.
That alone should raise all the Red Flags any thinking American should need.
Welcome to the New American Century (SEE: Project for a New American Century, PNAC)

There were Mid-Night Swat Team Home Invasions, Pre-Emptive arrests, and detainment of potential trouble makers in Minneapolis during the Republican Convention 2008.

If you have nothing to hide,
you have nothing to fear.
The 1% LOVES the Working Class,
and only wants what is best for you!




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
21. "Neither Political Party ...
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:16 PM
May 2012

is remotely interested in addressing or even acknowledging this problem." Sad, isn't it? We really do not have two political parties.

bighughdiehl

(390 posts)
9. I'm gonna make a prediction
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:32 PM
May 2012

This story will get posted on freeperland. The freepers will get totally irate
at Obama over this. They will, as usual, throw down the memory hole
how their sun gawd Bush paved the way for this sort of thing. This kind of thing will suddenly be
doubleplusungood, now that it is happening to white U.S. citizens. We pointed out during
the days of their sun gawd that this would started happening, the Gitmo
suspects (brown non-citizens) were just practice, and it was considered doubleplusgood.
We knew this shit was coming and were ignored.
But now the freepers will get irate because a brown president is doing it to white
people instead of vice versa as during the years of their mentally ill
sun gawd. Secret indefinite detention without trial will now be considered
doubleplusungood.

We are now officially Pinochet's Chile, and the more delusional half
of our population will not acknowledge their large part of the blame.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. You're giving Freepers more credit than they are due.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:59 PM
May 2012

If they read this at all, they will cheer the arrests of 'treasonous commies' and will not in any way relate it to the current administration because they would not give credit to Democrats for doing what they have dreamed of for so long. They will simply celebrate the disappearance of 'commies' and maybe claim, illogically of course, that they are probably friends of the president but will be grateful that LAW ENFORCEMENT is 'doing its job'.

It's a difficult position for them to be in. Thrilled at the disappearances of 'commies' but not thrilled that a Democratic Administration might have something to do with it. So, they will simply ignore what they cannot compute and celebrate anyhow.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. "We are now officially Pinochet's Chile"
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:08 PM
May 2012

EXACTLY what Chris Hedges was waining about for the longest time.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
41. Way too sophisticated, and you're confusing Freepers with the Ron Paul base.
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:14 PM
May 2012

Someone should go look, I suppose, but I'll bet you - I'll give you the odds - that Freeperland is thrilled that the brave, brave coppers have (at great sacrifice) used their powerful law enforcement tools to neutralize the liberal commie Occupy hippies who were going to blow up things because they hate America. (Why do they hate America? Because they were indoctrinated to do so by KSM - the Kenyan Socialist Muslim.) And now these damn commie lawyers are liable to get them out of jail and on to welfare!

Your scenario would only come up if the government goes after white citizens of Freeperville. (Or if any of them claim this is the case, even if untrue.)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
12. That was
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:10 PM
May 2012

Struck down. Hopefully the DoJ won't appeal the decision. But yeah. You're right. Things are getting scary out there.

I guess NDAA is necessary when dealing with the superhuman criminal masterminds that become terrorists. You know... The 8 year old blond girls that are on the no-fly list. And the people that are able to hijack an airliner with 5oz of bottled water and nail clippers. That's why those were banned. Cause enemy #1 is apparently Mcguyver.

Judi Lynn

(160,645 posts)
13. NATO Protesters Held Without Charge After Raid as Chicago Steps Up Police Activities
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:03 PM
May 2012

NATO Protesters Held Without Charge After Raid as Chicago Steps Up Police Activities
Friday, 18 May 2012 14:00 By Yana Kunichoff, Truthout | Report

A pre-emptive raid by the Chicago Police Department (CPD) on the home of two Occupy Chicago activists may have happened without a search warrant, said the National Lawyers Guild (NLG), and led to the disappearance of nine activists into police custody without charge for almost 24 hours.

"I'd like to stress that we have done nothing wrong," said Zoe Sigman, an Occupy Chicago activist whose home was raided. "We have been planning to protest NATO and there is nothing illegal about expressing our feelings about a war machine. Now we're being treated as mere criminals. As if we're part of an organized crime that they're trying to take down. Who knows what they're going to pin on us. We're terrified."

The raid of an apartment on Chicago's Southside Bridgeport neighborhood occurred on Wednesday evening around 11:30 PM. So far, none of the activists have been charged and four were released Friday morning. According to witnesses, the raid was conducted by the Organized Crime Division of the CPD and a warrant produced at the site didn't have the signature of a judge.

The use of pre-emptive arrests is troublesome, said lawyers following the proceedings.

More:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/9235-nato-protesters-held-without-charge-after-raid-as-chicago-steps-up-police-activities

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Where is Rahm, good democrat that he is, while his citizens are being wrongfully
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:01 PM
May 2012

and unconstitutionally harassed by his police department?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. Chicago isn't a republican bastion...
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:19 PM
May 2012

but it doesn't matter, as both parties look too similar for comfort.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
30. found at the CPD Organized Crime Division police station lock up at 3340 W. Fillmore St. on the West
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:54 PM
May 2012

side. I wonder how they finally located them? Scary shit right there!

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
31. Kevin Gosztola reports that the police called them
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:03 AM
May 2012

terrorists and junkies and told them they smelled while they were in custody.

Too bad we don't have a strong Dem mayor in that town.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
33. Interesting. That must be part of the 'strategy' to suppress dissent. Other protesters have
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:07 AM
May 2012

reported the cops doing exactly the same thing, telling them they smelled, calling them hippies etc. How rightwing of them. And yes, it is too bad that in many of these cities, the Mayors have been Democrats.

Eugene

(61,964 posts)
34. Nato protesters arrested in Chicago raid held on terrorism conspiracy charges
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

Source: The Guardian

Nato protesters arrested in Chicago raid held on terrorism conspiracy charges

Lawyer says men are 'in shock' over allegations they tried to make
a Molotov cocktail ahead of Nato summit protests


Gary Younge in Chicago
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 19 May 2012 14.16 BST

Three Nato protesters, arrested in a late night raid on Wednesday, have been charged on terrorism-related offences.

Police claim the charges of conspiracy to commit terrorism, providing material support for terrorism and possession of an explosive or incendiary device, are the result of a month-long investigation into a group they believe was making Molotov cocktails. They had already been pulled over by police last week and asked about their protest plans in a stop they posted on YouTube.

Attorneys representing the men say the charges are fabricated and aimed at intimidating activists. "We cannot say enough that we believe that these charges are absolutely … very trumped up charges," said Sarah Gelsomino of the Peoples Law Office. "Clearly in an attempt to continue this intimidation campaign on activists. Charging these people who are here to peacefully protest against Nato for terrorism, when in reality the police have been terrorising activists in Chicago, is absolutely outrageous.

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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/19/chicago-nato-protesters-terrorism-charges

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
39. "They had already been pulled over by police last week and asked about their protest plans"!!!
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

Jeez. This is worse--FAR worse--than Seattle '99. Tailed, stopped and forced by the police state to answer for your views and your future actions of assembly and petitioning your government!

Democratic president, democratic mayor, in Seattle, too. There, they just bashed your head or hosed your face with CS gas and declared the entirety of downtown Seattle a "no free speech zone" (and arrested thousands of people and kept them in police buses with no water and no toilets for 17 hours, and beat up city councilmen and so on).

I'll bet the Chicago police and their federal masters didn't tail, stop and question their agents provocateur--the ones who are really making "Molotov cocktails." They won't arrest them, either, when they start kicking in Starbuck's windows.

Seems to be a deliberate provocation to hold a NATO meeting in Chicago. They should have held it, in, oh, Qatar? (Which sheikdom did they take the WTO meeting to, after Seattle and Cancun? Can't recall. One of those places where they bury errant women in the sand up to their heads and stone them to death. Typical U.S. ally.)

Note: Lifelong Democrat, here. And I am well aware of how our Corporate Masters set things up, and time things, so that the fallout from their enormous war and economic crimes makes "moderate" Democrats "radioactive." It's all part of the 'narrative' they can now so easily unfold, given the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines all over the U.S. (now owned and largely controlled by one, private, far rightwing-connected corporation--ES&S, which bought out Diebold). The Democratic "moderates" then, instead of exposing privatization of our voting system, go further to the right, because how can anybody but the already-compromised get (s)elected in this system? Thus, tailing, stopping and questioning potential protestors becomes okay to our Democratic Party leaders; torture is okay (if it's kept kind of quiet); murdering people all over the world with predator drones is okay (what Constitution?), and "saving" (i.e., killing) Social Security and the U.S. Postal Service become a Democratic Party endeavor. This is a very difficult dilemma for loyal members of the Democratic Party. If we don't support our compromised, pushed-to-the-right leaders--if we mess up their meetings with protests and petitioning our government, if we refuse to vote because the system is so very, very rigged--our Corporate Masters have far worse they can do to us. Indeed, it is likely their purpose--and part of their pre-written 'narrative'--to force "the people" out of the election system entirely. My decision is that I will NEVER EVER give up my right to vote, or throw my vote away. I bitterly regret the one time I did the latter (1968, Vietnam War--the result of disaffected anti-war Democrats that year was Nixon--and more war). The other thing I can do is warn people about ES&S. We must restore our voting system to the PUBLIC VENUE. We must! It is THE essential first step that we need to take back toward democracy.)

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