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Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:31 PM Oct 2015

CBS Bans Ads for Dan Rather Movie 'Truth'

Source: Hollywood Reporter

CBS has refused to run advertising for Truth, the film starring Cate Blanchett and Robert Redford that revisits a painful episode in the network's past involving a discredited 2004 news story on former President George W. Bush's military service record.

CBS has denounced the movie, which opens Friday, as a disservice to the public and journalists.

<snip>

"That's a disservice not just to the public but to journalists across the world who go out every day and do everything within their power, sometimes at great risk to themselves, to get the story right," he said.

Truth is told from the points of view of Mapes and Rather, who left CBS News on bitter terms in 2006. He unsuccessfully sued the network and has complained of being "erased" from CBS history. Rather and Mapes have always contended that despite the discredited documents, the underlying story about Bush was true.


Read more: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-bans-ads-dan-rather-832635?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_now_2015-10-16%2010:53:34_HLewis&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews



There must be something embarrassing for CBS to complain so loudly.
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CBS Bans Ads for Dan Rather Movie 'Truth' (Original Post) Roy Rolling Oct 2015 OP
CONTEST! COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE!! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #1
.have all their sweat and hard work misrepresented simply because the chimpanzee's family has money. BlueJazz Oct 2015 #15
ding ding ding. winner. nt hopemountain Oct 2015 #35
Dang Fairgo Oct 2015 #47
Can't top that! Perfect. mountain grammy Oct 2015 #57
Entry Scarsdale Oct 2015 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #46
Adios! n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #48
Who's internet soul has departed? I want to pray for him/her. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #50
Think of it as the Tomb Of The Unknown Troll. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #52
He/she will be back with a new username soon enough. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #55
I agree on both counts. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #56
. LiberalElite Oct 2015 #86
bring the news. Kokonoe Oct 2015 #51
Entry Bozvotros Oct 2015 #78
Smart of CBS to not show these commercials for it yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #100
Well, it's not here yet. I intend to go, Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #102
Not in my area either. Probably go straight to video. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #103
CBS us full of sh*t...Cronkite would roll over in his grave. Stuart G Oct 2015 #2
" " " " MBS Oct 2015 #13
Actually, Cronkite was not a fan of Rather Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2015 #22
Well I wish you had given a source of that statement. I'm not denying it. I'd just like to know YOHABLO Oct 2015 #68
Being taken in by what I believe was a plant to bring the story down SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #70
Cronkite admitted he retired too early... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2015 #44
They took Dan Rather, one of the greatest investgative reporters we've ever had in TV news.. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #54
Corpmedia will try to Gary Webb him, but, Rather knows too much now to blm Oct 2015 #64
That's for sure. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #69
No Truth on CBS. Maybe they should just shoot themselves in the foot instead. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #3
Over movie commercials that the movie will bomb. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #41
LOL. I'm shocked. (not) MH1 Oct 2015 #4
ah, hadn't realized he'd written a book. . MBS Oct 2015 #14
Definitely check it out, it's a good read. MH1 Oct 2015 #34
Damned liberal media. C Moon Oct 2015 #5
Well, that's petty, and pound-foolish of them Demeter Oct 2015 #6
CBS has long ago lost any respectability as a purveyor of journalism. The end of what was once a still_one Oct 2015 #7
The president of CBS News came over from Fox News Submariner Oct 2015 #77
I didn't know Sumner redstone came from fox still_one Oct 2015 #81
David Rhodes Submariner Oct 2015 #88
Here is where I got it wrong, Sumner Redstone is the largest shareholder of CBS and Viacom still_one Oct 2015 #91
Damn, this means I MUST see this movie asap, no ifs, ands or buts. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #8
I rarely watch movies in theater anymore - I'll make an exception for this! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #9
Yep, me too. .. Hey lookie-here 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #11
Yes! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #17
Same here. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #33
Obviously CBS doesn't know about Barbra and the great effect trying to limit viewers erronis Oct 2015 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #42
Nope, because you made that up. arcane1 Oct 2015 #45
they can't handle the truth!!!! dembotoz Oct 2015 #10
I've been getting a kick out of Stephen Colbert's Late Show... classof56 Oct 2015 #12
CorpoMedia....a hard pill to swallow fredamae Oct 2015 #16
It's an extremely distasteful and bitter pill. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #18
What a pack of spineless cowards!!! wolfie001 Oct 2015 #20
I was really surprised they allowed Blanchett on Colbert to promote it last week Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2015 #21
Ha! Of course it's embarrassing! But, Duval Oct 2015 #23
Well done CBS Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #24
Yep Roy Rolling Oct 2015 #25
Amen Midnight Writer Oct 2015 #87
can they legally refuse to run an ad? did't they run ads for a lot of the right wing schlock movies hollysmom Oct 2015 #26
Of course they can. Every network refuses ads all the time 7962 Oct 2015 #29
Of course they can. They are not the government and thus 1st Ammendment prohibitions kelly1mm Oct 2015 #101
I remember when I was 16 my Mother telling me not to go see The Exorcist. Lochloosa Oct 2015 #28
Lara Logan etc... CBS promotes... Mike Nelson Oct 2015 #30
Unacceptable MSM manipulation. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #31
The CIA And The Media: 50 Facts The World Needs To Know (Prof. James F. Tracey 9-27-15 Truth Theory) bobthedrummer Oct 2015 #104
I seem to recall... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #32
Always suspected Rove used the same tactic on the IRS to protect CrossRoads non profit status stuffmatters Oct 2015 #53
Exactly what I think - misdirection has always worked for him. blm Oct 2015 #67
^EXACTLY^ nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #72
Meanwhile, Lara Logan's casual relationship with Truth is just fine with them. closeupready Oct 2015 #36
Freepers must be so proud of what they did to Rathers and Mapes. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #37
CBS and Wall Street are joined at the hip by mutually produced propaganda and lies. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #38
msm's blatant censoring truth and manipulation hopemountain Oct 2015 #39
As much as I enjoyed the movie, The Insider, Christopher Plummer as Mike Wallace LanternWaste Oct 2015 #40
I loved that film. closeupready Oct 2015 #43
You don't respect Redford as an actor? AndreaCG Oct 2015 #89
George W. Bush sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #49
Yep. Him making it to prez is beyond disgusting. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #74
I will treat myself to seeing this one in the theater. mountain grammy Oct 2015 #58
Of all the "disservice" in the world... SoapBox Oct 2015 #59
WTF ARE THEY AFRAID OF??? Skittles Oct 2015 #60
Us. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #73
must be a new-found fear Skittles Oct 2015 #79
Not really. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #82
I think it is just the corporate media in action Skittles Oct 2015 #83
Who want sheeple. Anything else terrifies them. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #84
Hmm, who I think is telling the truth? Babel_17 Oct 2015 #61
Most corporate media will circle the wagons around Bush and CBS. blm Oct 2015 #62
CBS..... PatrynXX Oct 2015 #63
Book Banning houston16revival Oct 2015 #65
This is the status quo that we are fighting and a Goldman-Sachs Admins will be on the wrong side. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #66
I think "The Truth" is hitting a bit close to home. 47of74 Oct 2015 #71
"This whole thing was a setup to get rid of Rather." SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #75
LOL. Too good to be true. I'm seeing it now. K and R nt Smarmie Doofus Oct 2015 #76
Fuck CBS! davidpdx Oct 2015 #80
May the ghost of Edward R Murrow haunt them forever azurnoir Oct 2015 #85
A couple more links if your are interested about CBS's refusal INdemo Oct 2015 #90
rather's a trophy on limbaugh's wall certainot Oct 2015 #92
CBS is one of those corporations we have been hearing about that never do anything wrong. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #93
Kicked and recommended! CBS is fearful the public will be reminded of their role in protecting Enthusiast Oct 2015 #94
CBS can ban the ads. But they can't ban the truth. Triana Oct 2015 #95
MOCKINGBIRD Lives!!! Octafish Oct 2015 #96
Once upon a time there was a great network that reached for the moon tavernier Oct 2015 #97
Thank you! n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #98
Well, now we know the frequency, Kenneth....nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #99
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
1. CONTEST! COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE!!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015
"That's a disservice not just to the public but to journalists across the world who go out every day and do everything within their power, sometimes at great risk to themselves, to .........," he said.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
15. .have all their sweat and hard work misrepresented simply because the chimpanzee's family has money.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:01 PM
Oct 2015

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #1)

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
55. He/she will be back with a new username soon enough.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:23 PM
Oct 2015

The infiltration right now is the highest I've seen it in years,

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
100. Smart of CBS to not show these commercials for it
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:52 PM
Oct 2015

It sunk in the box office making 76,000 dollars this weekend. Holy cow. Horrible amount for a movie. Box Office Mojo says it did not wow the crowds.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
2. CBS us full of sh*t...Cronkite would roll over in his grave.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015

Sad but true.
What they did to Rather is exactly who they are.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
22. Actually, Cronkite was not a fan of Rather
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:31 PM
Oct 2015

and said he should have been replaced years earlier.

He didn't exactly rush to his defense during the memo flap, either, and was highly critical of him.

I love uncle Walt, but he had no issue with CBS' actions on this at the time.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
70. Being taken in by what I believe was a plant to bring the story down
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:24 PM
Oct 2015

Was indeed stupid. And Dan is certainly no Uncle Walter.

Nevertheless, Dan is a decent journalist and the story is true. IMHO.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
44. Cronkite admitted he retired too early...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:46 PM
Oct 2015

... he was sorry for it, as so much happened as soon as he retired.

""Oh, well, I want to say that probably 24 hours after I told CBS that I was stepping down at my 65th birthday, I was already regretting it," Cronkite told TV critics. "And I regretted it every day since. It's too good a job for anybody to give up as I did." "

"But only in an "extraordinary situation." "There is a point at which it seems to me if an individual reporter has gained a reputation of being honest, fair as can be, and helps the American people in trying to make a decision on a major issue, I think we ought to take that opportunity," he said."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/640196300/And-thats-the-way-it-is.html?pg=all

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
54. They took Dan Rather, one of the greatest investgative reporters we've ever had in TV news..
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:20 PM
Oct 2015

and turned his reputation to shit with millions of people, I knew from DAY 1 that it was a "who, me?" defense by CBS.

He was right, and nobody wanted to hear it. Bravo to Dan Rather! I hope he gets his due and sets the story straight for all time!

blm

(113,082 posts)
64. Corpmedia will try to Gary Webb him, but, Rather knows too much now to
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
Oct 2015

let it happen to him. So do we.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
4. LOL. I'm shocked. (not)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, it sounds like "Truth" will track much like the relevant chapters in Rather's book, "Rather Outspoken". Which means yes, it will be embarrassing for CBS.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
34. Definitely check it out, it's a good read.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:25 PM
Oct 2015

When it came out I considered it a must-read, to get Dan's side of the story.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
6. Well, that's petty, and pound-foolish of them
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:36 PM
Oct 2015

Must mean the same old stupids are still running the place...the ones who fired him 11 YEARS AGO!

Someday, they will have to own their mistake and get over it.

still_one

(92,325 posts)
7. CBS has long ago lost any respectability as a purveyor of journalism. The end of what was once a
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:38 PM
Oct 2015

great network has been going down hill since Mike Wallace left. Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite are rolling over in their graves, seeing where CBS came from, and where it is today

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
77. The president of CBS News came over from Fox News
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:36 PM
Oct 2015

he made his bones under the leadership of Roger Ailes, which explained to me why 60 Minutes went off the rails with that phony Benghazi hit job, and why ex-Foxhound Major Garret ended up as a CBS reporter.

still_one

(92,325 posts)
91. Here is where I got it wrong, Sumner Redstone is the largest shareholder of CBS and Viacom
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:22 AM
Oct 2015

Leslie Moonves is President and CEO of CBS corporations, and David Rhodes is the CBS news president as you pointed out.

I appreciate the information.



 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
8. Damn, this means I MUST see this movie asap, no ifs, ands or buts.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:38 PM
Oct 2015

I hear KKKarl is shaking in his boots over it as well.

The CBS/Rove denouncements of "Truth" are way more compelling reasons to
see this movie than any commercial they ban about it

Well done CBS.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. Yep, me too. .. Hey lookie-here
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

The film to be released in the United States on October 16, 2015. <-- that's today!!

Woot.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
33. Same here.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:21 PM
Oct 2015

What they did to Dan Rather is despicable. I hope that this movie will be seen by as many people as possible.

erronis

(15,324 posts)
19. Obviously CBS doesn't know about Barbra and the great effect trying to limit viewers
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:19 PM
Oct 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect.

Me too. I'll go see this in a smelly, sticky theater (with fake butt popcorn) as soon as I can! And then download it for later pleasure.

Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #8)

classof56

(5,376 posts)
12. I've been getting a kick out of Stephen Colbert's Late Show...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

The ways he does an "end-run" around things you can't say on CBS. Funny!

I suspect CBS has just upped the viewership for Truth. I rarely go to movies, but I'll definitely be in the audience for this one and hope it shows up soon on Netflix, Hulu, etc.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
16. CorpoMedia....a hard pill to swallow
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:02 PM
Oct 2015

for many just awakening to the new propaganda system that has usurped the Vital role of the Fourth Estate.....It's been on life support for several decades -now It is pronounced DOA.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
21. I was really surprised they allowed Blanchett on Colbert to promote it last week
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

That one must have gone under Moonves' radar

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
23. Ha! Of course it's embarrassing! But,
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:31 PM
Oct 2015

banning it is not going to keep people from seeing it! And it was a disastrous disservice to the public in 2004.


Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
24. Well done CBS
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:33 PM
Oct 2015

Articles like this one will likely bring far more interest in this movie than any 30 second spots would have.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
26. can they legally refuse to run an ad? did't they run ads for a lot of the right wing schlock movies
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:38 PM
Oct 2015

edited because I can't type straight.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
29. Of course they can. Every network refuses ads all the time
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:59 PM
Oct 2015

You usually hear more about it before the Super Bowl because those make headlines, but it happens frequently.
They're all private companies.

kelly1mm

(4,734 posts)
101. Of course they can. They are not the government and thus 1st Ammendment prohibitions
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:11 PM
Oct 2015

against restricting speech do not apply to them.

Why would you think a private company would have to allow commercial speech it disagreed with?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
104. The CIA And The Media: 50 Facts The World Needs To Know (Prof. James F. Tracey 9-27-15 Truth Theory)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015
http://truththeory.com/2015/09/27/the-cia-and-the-media-50-facts-the-world-needs-to-know

MSM Psy-Ops-that's been going on for quite awhile AtomicKitten.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
32. I seem to recall...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:19 PM
Oct 2015

... a story that those documents were handed to Rather's team by someone who was later revealed to be a plant by "Turdblossom" Rove. Even though the documents were faked, the facts were irrefutable: Dubya was an irresponsible, over-privileged asshole who went AWOL because he didn't want to play "pilot" anymore. So they gave CBS papers they knew they could later "expose" and trumpet as fraudulent. It was a very clever double-blind scam: acknowledge the facts, but do it with faked documentation, then harp on the fakery while the truth gets lost in the shuffle.

That could have been an even bigger story than the original, but the cowards in the corner offices at CBS were too afraid of the Bush mafia.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
53. Always suspected Rove used the same tactic on the IRS to protect CrossRoads non profit status
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:15 PM
Oct 2015

Lois Lerner's (Bush appointee, Republican) actions never made sense from her first weird public outburst. Just when the IRS
investigation into their non profit (anonymous donor) qualifications was coming to a rightful end. Cross Roads non profit was going to loose non profit status and Rove much of his livelihood & power. With all the convenient "outrage" and noise Lerner started, the IRS allowed Rove to keep his undeserved non profit status (is there a more political organization on earth that Crossroads?). The IRS also backed off completely from all the other blatently political non profits, including the Kochtopus propaganda machine.

Yes,I agree the fundamental facts of Bush's military disservice were basically true and Rove did the preemptive strike planted info/testimony to pervert the truth and save his boss. Then he did it again to save Crossroads and himself.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
39. msm's blatant censoring truth and manipulation
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:33 PM
Oct 2015

- for me means: as soon as my satellite tv contract ends next spring - no more msm tv in my household. ridiculous. cnn and time warner will have to rely on the poor, the uneducated, the ignorant, and the greedy viewership for their revenue.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. As much as I enjoyed the movie, The Insider, Christopher Plummer as Mike Wallace
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:38 PM
Oct 2015

As much as I enjoyed the movie, The Insider, Christopher Plummer as Mike Wallace never came across to me as Mike Wallace... just Christopher Plummer; so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Redford (a great guy no doubt, but not in the same acting league as Plummer) can pull off Dan Rather.

Regardless, it's a story that really does suggest itself for a well-crafted treatment, and a film I will definitely see in the theaters.



AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
89. You don't respect Redford as an actor?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 04:44 AM
Oct 2015

With his great body of work? Huh. I respectfully disagree and suspect yours is a minority opinion.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
49. George W. Bush
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:03 PM
Oct 2015

is the only military deserter to ever serve as Commander in Chief. The most disgusting part is that he was a chickenhawk who deserted from the infamous 'champagne unit' of the Texas Air National Guard where, at the time, preppy punks like him could become veterans without fear of serving in Vietnam, and the little shit couldn't even handle that.

blm

(113,082 posts)
62. Most corporate media will circle the wagons around Bush and CBS.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:00 PM
Oct 2015

They knew the truth then, but, the owners were promised favorable rulings in Bush's SECOND TERM and they got them.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
65. Book Banning
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:30 PM
Oct 2015

is akin to book burning

Suppression is the characteristic of a totalitarian state and dictatorship

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
71. I think "The Truth" is hitting a bit close to home.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:25 PM
Oct 2015

This whole thing was a setup to get rid of Rather. Get the old time journalists out and get people like Clusterfox and Friends in their places.

And regardless, the only thing Bush was doing during 'nam was keeping all the beer taps in Texas safe for democracy.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
92. rather's a trophy on limbaugh's wall
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015

discrediting rather and getting him fired was essential for keeping bush and talk radio played the esential role in saving bush/ rove.

like with everything else all they have to do is lie and distort and repeat it enough and it becomes truth. only talk radio can do that.

biggest mistake in political history: the left's ignorance of rw talk radio

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
93. CBS is one of those corporations we have been hearing about that never do anything wrong.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015


Seems to me they hired Frank Luntz. Looks like a major league fuck up to me.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
94. Kicked and recommended! CBS is fearful the public will be reminded of their role in protecting
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

the criminal Bush Administration.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
95. CBS can ban the ads. But they can't ban the truth.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:46 PM
Oct 2015

It's playing in my area on 10/30. I'm going to see it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
96. MOCKINGBIRD Lives!!!
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 06:59 PM
Oct 2015

Shame to live in a country where freedom of speech and of the press is no longer practiced.

tavernier

(12,396 posts)
97. Once upon a time there was a great network that reached for the moon
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:11 PM
Oct 2015

and the stars, and the people rejoiced!

But in their search for truth, a spirit of darkness descended upon them and mocked them.

"How Dare You?" cried the Lord of Fox?

The network shrunk in shame, and was never great again.

The End.

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