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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:17 PM Oct 2015

Google book-scanning project legal, says U.S. appeals court

Source: Reuters

A U.S. appeals court ruled on Friday that Google's massive effort to scan millions of books for an online library does not violate copyright law, rejecting claims from a group of authors that the project illegally deprives them of revenue.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York rejected infringement claims from the Authors Guild and several individual writers, and found that the project provides a public service without violating intellectual property law.

The authors sued Google, whose parent company is now named Alphabet Inc (GOOGL.O), in 2005, a year after the project was launched.

But Google argued that the effort would actually boost book sales by making it easier for readers to find works, while introducing them to books they might not otherwise have seen.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/16/us-google-books-idUSKCN0SA1S020151016



Text of the decision (.pdf): http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/fdeb8947-3090-4e65-90cd-771bd0a3ad73/2/doc/13-4829_opn.pdf
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Google book-scanning project legal, says U.S. appeals court (Original Post) PoliticAverse Oct 2015 OP
I don't get it. How is this not a copyright violation? Could I as an individual copy print media and GoneFishin Oct 2015 #1
Yes if you use small portions that fall under "fair use". PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #2
Oh, I see. Thanks. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #3
Google only displays snippets of the scanned books. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #5
Also, if a book is under copyright, ananda Oct 2015 #4
It would really be neat. You could search for a phrase that you remember from a story LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #6
That really does sound great. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #7
I used Google Books a lot PatSeg Oct 2015 #8
I prefer Archive.org for old genealogies csziggy Oct 2015 #10
Thank you so much PatSeg Oct 2015 #11
Google books has been very convenient BumRushDaShow Oct 2015 #9
excellent! FreedomRain Oct 2015 #12
People still buy CDs? n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #13

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
1. I don't get it. How is this not a copyright violation? Could I as an individual copy print media and
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:36 PM
Oct 2015

use it for a commercial endeavor?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. Yes if you use small portions that fall under "fair use".
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

Note from the article that:

Chin found Google's scanning of tens of millions of books and posting "snippets" online constituted "fair use" under U.S. copyright law.
...
"Google’s division of the page into tiny snippets is designed to show the searcher just enough context surrounding the searched term to help her evaluate whether the book falls within the scope of her interest (without revealing so much as to threaten the author’s copyright interests)," Circuit Judge Pierre Leval wrote for the court.

Note that posters on DU are allowed to post snippets from copyrighted articles for discussion under "fair use" provisions
of copyright law also.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. Google only displays snippets of the scanned books.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:56 PM
Oct 2015

If you want the full book you still have to buy it, in which case all of the copyright holders get paid in full.

LiberalArkie

(15,727 posts)
6. It would really be neat. You could search for a phrase that you remember from a story
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:21 PM
Oct 2015

long ago but can not remember the author or title. You would be shown all the sources and paragraphs that surround the search string and probably a synopsis of the book. And great for teachers to punch in a students report and see if it is plagiarized.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
8. I used Google Books a lot
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

for genealogy research. Many old books are available for free and others you can find out if something relevant to you is in a book. It has been a valuable resource.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
10. I prefer Archive.org for old genealogies
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:02 PM
Oct 2015

Unlike Google Books it's easier to download a PDF image of the entire book, plus a searchable text version.

But watch out for some of those old genealogies - often they are not accurate especially the ones that claim linkages to royalty.

BumRushDaShow

(129,325 posts)
9. Google books has been very convenient
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:56 PM
Oct 2015

and I have actually searched for things, stumbled on their book snippets containing the search terms/topic (the relevant terms are highlighted in the snippet) and eventually bought some of those books (they display the book title/cover/author, etc., on a side panel). It has been a great resource to find books I was unaware of (in fact, 2 of the books I discovered, I ended up buying multiple copies of each to give as presents)!

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
12. excellent!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:06 PM
Oct 2015

fantastic news - and as they argue, it likely to pump up sales, much like Pandora did for CDs. I personally have bought dozens of CD's I never would have even known about thanks to that project.

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