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Judi Lynn

(160,592 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:05 PM Oct 2015

Hunter shoots biggest elephant killed in Africa for 30 years

Source: Independent

Hunter shoots biggest elephant killed in Africa for 30 years

German ‘paid £39,000’ for right to target one of Zimbabwe’s endangered bulls
Ian Johnston |
1 hours ago|


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A hunter has shot dead what is believed to be the biggest elephant killed for “sport” in Africa for 30 years, according to reports.

The animal, one of the largest elephants ever seen in Zimbabwe, was killed on 8 October in an area set aside for private hunting, which borders the Gonarezhou National Park, The Daily Telegraph reported.

A German hunter reportedly paid about £39,000 for a permit to shoot a large bull elephant and was led by an experienced local guide.

Organisers of the hunt declined to name the hunter, who went to Zimbabwe to shoot the so-called Big Five of targets: an elephant, a leopard, a lion, a buffalo and a rhinoceros.


Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/hunter-shoots-biggest-elephant-killed-in-africa-for-30-years-a6696151.html



"Big Five" hunters should get no running start at all in front of a guided missile.
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Hunter shoots biggest elephant killed in Africa for 30 years (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2015 OP
Yeah shenmue Oct 2015 #1
I really have no issue with hunting cape buffalo Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #2
cowards just want to have fun Skittles Oct 2015 #9
you nailed it november3rd Oct 2015 #59
They're the deadliest of the five Recursion Oct 2015 #34
Thanks for posting Judi Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #3
Gun culture of the world unite. nt onehandle Oct 2015 #4
I think one of the African nations should open a human hunting "playground"... mak3cats Oct 2015 #5
We have already been doing that all over the world since the beginning of history -- be it Cal33 Oct 2015 #46
You got that right. bluedigger Oct 2015 #6
That mindset is utterly incomprehensible to me. scarletwoman Oct 2015 #7
" " " " n/t MBS Oct 2015 #45
plus one Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #66
He must be so proud. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #67
COWARD Skittles Oct 2015 #8
I've got an idea of how to raise the money AND make it sporting without killing anything uppityperson Oct 2015 #10
rather like counting coup. I love the idea. niyad Oct 2015 #11
Exactly. You want to prove your courage? Here's how to. uppityperson Oct 2015 #24
what a sick, twisted, perverted asshole. may he be ian gibsoned. niyad Oct 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author niyad Oct 2015 #13
sick prick, and ITS NOT HUNTING DAMMIT restorefreedom Oct 2015 #14
Congratulations!!! hibbing Oct 2015 #15
The internet will find him. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #16
A missile would be too good for those lowlifes. forest444 Oct 2015 #17
He needs more time to enjoy the wildlife more closely in Africa instead of escaping. Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #26
Never trust a fart. Maynar Oct 2015 #32
Case in point: Chris Christie. forest444 Oct 2015 #36
That's really rude! Wow. Disgusting. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #38
That is so stupid I LOL. PufPuf23 Oct 2015 #48
Did the media create a copycat? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #18
another private ranch canned hunt "adjacent to a national park". wonder how they spit the 'fee'. Sunlei Oct 2015 #19
Idiot PatSeg Oct 2015 #20
50,000 a year? PatSeg Oct 2015 #21
lousy rotten FUCKER! lastlib Oct 2015 #22
It brings me great sorrow to kick and rec this thread. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #23
Posing with his kill: German hunter pays £39,000 to shoot largest elephant in Africa for 50 YEARS - Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #25
"but he said a prayer to the Great Spirit and he gave the meat to poor people and locals MisterP Oct 2015 #27
When stuff like this happens reminds me of George Carlin's iandhr Oct 2015 #28
Hunters are atrocious and have serious mental problems. Unless you need the food, Flaxbee Oct 2015 #29
It's a shame that these idiots need a gun to go into battle with an animal passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #30
Reminds me of a line in the movie I saw last night HeiressofBickworth Oct 2015 #31
WTF? avaistheone1 Oct 2015 #33
Biggest asshole in Africa in 30 years. eppur_se_muova Oct 2015 #35
Thrill killing despicable piece of shit asshole. Jack-o-Lantern Oct 2015 #37
Welcome to Mugabes Zimbabwe MFM008 Oct 2015 #39
Is Mugabe responsible for trophy hunting in the other African countries which allow it? Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #40
Or a no running start in front of a herd of angry elephants. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #41
The Zimbabwe elephant population is actually too large. Nitram Oct 2015 #42
WHY....................................Zimbabwe -----------------WHY turbinetree Oct 2015 #43
this should not be legal. MBS Oct 2015 #44
14 DAY ELEPHANT HUNTING PACKAGE oberliner Oct 2015 #47
"It is always a fair chase-both ways" oasis Oct 2015 #56
Shit - packman Oct 2015 #49
German elephant hunter will be named and shamed, vows Zimbabwe taskforce Eugene Oct 2015 #50
Once he's named, I hope the German public will take it from there Number9Dream Oct 2015 #61
In other news: another baby was tossed form a NY window. jonno99 Oct 2015 #51
Population of African Elephants ~ 500,000 and dropping 20% a decade n2doc Oct 2015 #52
Thanks for the needed perspective...nt jonno99 Oct 2015 #60
What prevents your posting in in LBN yourself? Please do follow up, teach DU a little perspective.nt Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #65
The evil that humans have wrought on this planet tabasco Oct 2015 #53
Spend a day at a factory farm oberliner Oct 2015 #54
I'll never understand the idiocy of receiving entertainment from killing sentient life. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #55
this just in olddots Oct 2015 #57
doesn't one need a penis to get an erection? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #63
MoFo! november3rd Oct 2015 #58
space doesn't actually end war or poaching, y'know ... MisterP Oct 2015 #62
This is not hunting it's gun porn for the fabulously wealthy. It's also species genocide Monk06 Oct 2015 #64
 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
59. you nailed it
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

Sport hunting is a crime.

Why doesn't the U.S. pay Zimbabwe to help us fly a bunch of drones over there to blow up hunting parties that threaten endangered species?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. They're the deadliest of the five
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:52 PM
Oct 2015

They can not just trample a lion to death, they can chase down a lion, outrun him, and trample him to death.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
5. I think one of the African nations should open a human hunting "playground"...
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:12 PM
Oct 2015

...if it could be made legal, can you imagine the numbers of rich, "my gun is longer than your gun" psychos who would pay to be able to kill another human being without any consequences? The one absolute provision would have to be that they shoot each other, not some hired prey. What a challenge!

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
46. We have already been doing that all over the world since the beginning of history -- be it
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:51 AM
Oct 2015

internationally, nationally or interpersonally. When has there ever been a lack of people
killing people?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
7. That mindset is utterly incomprehensible to me.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:38 PM
Oct 2015

I weep that I share a species with such sick, depraved minds as that...

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
10. I've got an idea of how to raise the money AND make it sporting without killing anything
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:46 PM
Oct 2015

Have a guide take a photo of you touching each of these animals, live. This would demonstrate your ability to not only track but to get really close. Much more sporting than simply shooting something with a powerful gun.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. sick prick, and ITS NOT HUNTING DAMMIT
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:55 PM
Oct 2015

it is staged slaughter for penis deficient indivduals.

sigh

thanks for posting judy needs to be seen

Judi Lynn

(160,592 posts)
26. He needs more time to enjoy the wildlife more closely in Africa instead of escaping.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:48 PM
Oct 2015

A lot of people with weapons chasing him around should work just fine. I'd love to see it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. another private ranch canned hunt "adjacent to a national park". wonder how they spit the 'fee'.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:16 PM
Oct 2015

Poor old male elephants can't even live out their natural life in peace, he's for sale to kill.

39000 EUR = 44688.89653 USD

39000 British Pound equals

60305.70 US Dollar

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
21. 50,000 a year?
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:27 PM
Oct 2015

"Poachers are thought to kill around 50,000 elephants a year in order to supply the illegal ivory trade, as well as providing bushmeat and ingredients for traditional Chinese medicine."

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/hunter-shoots-biggest-elephant-killed-in-africa-for-30-years-a6696151.html

Insane

lastlib

(23,266 posts)
22. lousy rotten FUCKER!
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:33 PM
Oct 2015

why is this sh1t even legal??!?

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Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
23. It brings me great sorrow to kick and rec this thread.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:39 PM
Oct 2015

I do so for visibility, but I HATE needing to do so.

Judi Lynn

(160,592 posts)
25. Posing with his kill: German hunter pays £39,000 to shoot largest elephant in Africa for 50 YEARS -
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:45 PM
Oct 2015

Posing with his kill: German hunter pays £39,000 to shoot largest elephant in Africa for 50 YEARS - just three months after Cecil the Lion was slain


  • A German hunter reportedly paid $60,000 for a permit to hunt the animal as part of an 21 day organised hunt
  • The elephant's tusks weighed 122 pounds and dragged along the ground
  • The elephant was not known to the park in Gonarezhou park in Zimbabwe
  • Conservationists think it came from the Kruger park in South Africa

  • By Tom Wyke for MailOnline
    Published: 15:14 EST, 15 October 2015 | Updated: 19:19 EST, 15 October 2015


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    The German hunter was assisted by a experienced hunter who acted as his guide on the 21 day hunting trip



    The animal was shot dead by a German hunter on October 8 in Gonarezhou National Park in south-east Zimbabwe
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    Less than three months after Cecil the Lion was shot dead, a German hunter has killed a large elephant with 122 pounds tusks in a game park in Zimbabwe.

    The elephant is thought to have been the biggest elephant shot in living memory when it was killed on October 8 in Gonarezhou National Park in south-east Zimbabwe.

    The majestic animal's tusks weighed 122 pounds and were so big that they dragged along the ground, according to Johnny Rodrigues Chairman for Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force.

    The hunter is believed to be a German national, who reportedly paid $60,000 (£39,000) for a hunting permit to shoot the colossal bull elephant as part of an organised hunt, according to The Telegraph.

    More:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3274724/Anger-biggest-elephant-shot-living-memory-killed-German-hunter-Zimbabwean-game-park.html#ixzz3oh7j56M8

    If only someone will recognize this piece of crap and publish his filthy name, so we all may properly salute him.

    MisterP

    (23,730 posts)
    27. "but he said a prayer to the Great Spirit and he gave the meat to poor people and locals
    Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:05 PM
    Oct 2015

    hate elephants and and and"

    --the usual logorrhea

    Flaxbee

    (13,661 posts)
    29. Hunters are atrocious and have serious mental problems. Unless you need the food,
    Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:12 PM
    Oct 2015

    or unless there is a scientific reason to "cull" a herd that can't sustain itself (which usually happens because idiot humans kill predators and allow for the proliferation of "prey" species) hunting is an abomination. Anyone who considers it "fun" to kill another living being is demented.

    passiveporcupine

    (8,175 posts)
    30. It's a shame that these idiots need a gun to go into battle with an animal
    Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:14 PM
    Oct 2015

    I"m starting to think it's time to bring back the Colosseum. If a man decides to go on a canned hunt like this, then turn-around is fair play. Let the animals fight it out with him *unarmed" in the colosseum while all the audience cheers on the animals.

    HeiressofBickworth

    (2,682 posts)
    31. Reminds me of a line in the movie I saw last night
    Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:24 PM
    Oct 2015

    This Changes Everything (Avi Lewis & Naomi Klein). Some right-wing fucker was attempting to explain the power of the free market. He said that it is market demand that increases supply. His example was (and I'm not shitting you) that if you want more ivory, you need to kill more elephants. The audience responded in unison -- and vomited.

    MFM008

    (19,818 posts)
    39. Welcome to Mugabes Zimbabwe
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:20 AM
    Oct 2015

    as long as the corruption remains the animals will die. Hes 91, he should die.

    Judi Lynn

    (160,592 posts)
    40. Is Mugabe responsible for trophy hunting in the other African countries which allow it?
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:05 AM
    Oct 2015

    Would you would approve of South Africa's trophy hunting, and the others'? That certainly can't be blamed on Mugabe.

    Nitram

    (22,845 posts)
    42. The Zimbabwe elephant population is actually too large.
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:22 AM
    Oct 2015

    In January, The Herald, one of Zimbabwe’s main daily newspapers, reported that there are 80,000 elephants in the country, more than the national game parks have the money or the ability to handle. Feeding these elephants uses up scarce resources, and Hwange National Park alone would spend up to $500,000 annually just for water for their elephants, said Geoffrey Matipano, the acting director of the National Parks and Wildlife Authority.
    http://passblue.com/2015/03/17/for-elephants-in-zimbabwe-a-deeply-troubling-present-and-future/

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    47. 14 DAY ELEPHANT HUNTING PACKAGE
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:52 AM
    Oct 2015

    14 DAY ELEPHANT HUNTING PACKAGE
    CODE: ZW041X1 HUNTER: $31 000PER OBSERVER: $5 360
    Our 14 Day Elephant Hunting Package will satisfy the most serious of hunters. With the exclusive opportunity to hunt the world's largest land mammal in an area where the wilderness is truly still wild, our Zimbabwe elephant hunting package is a once in a lifetime experience that may prove your most memorable hunt.

    While hunting has become quite a commercial endeavor elsewhere, the country of Zimbabwe still offers one of the most authentic African hunting experiences. The fenceless concession we use provides the wildlife with free roam and the hunter with a challenging adventure. It is always a fair chase - both ways!

    All our Zimbabwe hunting packages are fully inclusive. The packages begin and end at OR Tambo International Airport in South Africa. After overnighting at the Lombardy Hotel in Pretoria, you will fly to Bulawayo in Zimbabwe from OR Tambo and be transferred overland to the hunting concession. Upon the completion of your safari, you will visit the natural wonder of Victoria Falls before returning to South Africa.

    The area where we conduct our hunting safaris in Zimbabwe is located in the Gwayi valley halfway between Bulawayo and Victoria Falls. The terrain varies between mopane forest, sekelbos thickets and wetlands. Hwange National Park is only 50km away and ideal for observers or accompanying family members who desire a bit more luxury during their stay.

    If you do not wish to bring your own rifles, you are welcome to hunt with one of the rifles of your professional hunter. The only cost involved is the replacement of ammunition ($100).

    If you have not successfully taken your elephant trophy by the completion of your hunting package, you will be credited to the value of $16 000.

    http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/zimpackages/14dayelephant.html

     

    packman

    (16,296 posts)
    49. Shit -
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:03 AM
    Oct 2015

    (1) Money buys privilege

    (2) Assholes are always assholes

    (3) Hunting for no other reason than killing is a tell on the character of the killer

    (4) A country can sell its soul - both the country the killer came from and the country allowing this

    Disgusting piece of shit all the way around.

    Eugene

    (61,937 posts)
    50. German elephant hunter will be named and shamed, vows Zimbabwe taskforce
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:05 AM
    Oct 2015

    Source: The Guardian

    German elephant hunter will be named and shamed, vows Zimbabwe taskforce

    Peter Walker
    Friday 16 October 2015 13.44 BST

    A Zimbabwean conservation group has vowed to identify a German hunter who shot one of the largest elephants seen in the country, so the man can be publicly vilified like the killer of Cecil the lion.

    Johnny Rodrigues, chairman of the Zimbabwe conservation taskforce, confirmed that the man, as yet unnamed, had a permit when he shot the male elephant last week. The animal was unknown to Zimbabwean experts and is believed to have wandered across the border from South Africa, he said.

    Such old, large elephants were almost never sighted, Rodrigues said. “They’re very, very rare. His tusks weighed over 54kg (119lb) – that’s unheard of. You might have 10,000 or 15,000 elephants, but only one in that herd who’s so majestic and iconic.”

    The German hunter had paid a lot of money to go on a four-day hunt and had the correct licence and permit to shoot an elephant, Rodrigues said. He added that killing such an elephant was wrong and the hunter should experience similar treatment to Walter Palmer, the Minnesota dentist who faced public protests after he shot Cecil, one of Zimbabwe’s best-known lions, in July.

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    Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/german-elephant-hunter-named-shamed-vows-zimbabwe-conservation-group

    jonno99

    (2,620 posts)
    51. In other news: another baby was tossed form a NY window.
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:15 AM
    Oct 2015

    Should this story have it's own thread? Or is there only so much outrage to go around?
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20151016/us--baby_tossed_from_window-abd40ec9f7.html

    It's certainly ok to disagree with big game hunting; but a little perspective at such a time is often required - imho...

    n2doc

    (47,953 posts)
    52. Population of African Elephants ~ 500,000 and dropping 20% a decade
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:56 PM
    Oct 2015

    Population of humans- 7 billion+ and rising exponentially

    There is your perspective. All life killed intentionally for sport or stupidity is a bad, evil thing. But If you are so caught up in human babies dying, you might start with south Sudan, where 34 children died in a week.....

    https://in.news.yahoo.com/34-children-die-malnutrition-south-sudan-073802943.html

    Judi Lynn

    (160,592 posts)
    65. What prevents your posting in in LBN yourself? Please do follow up, teach DU a little perspective.nt
    Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:44 PM
    Oct 2015
     

    LanternWaste

    (37,748 posts)
    55. I'll never understand the idiocy of receiving entertainment from killing sentient life.
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:04 PM
    Oct 2015

    I'll never understand the idiocy of receiving entertainment from killing sentient life... but to be honest, I'm rather glad I'll never understand that particular idiocy.

    restorefreedom

    (12,655 posts)
    63. doesn't one need a penis to get an erection?
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:19 PM
    Oct 2015

    no way in hell he has one.

    but if he did, your timetable is spot on.

     

    november3rd

    (1,113 posts)
    58. MoFo!
    Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:45 PM
    Oct 2015

    How to end war:

    Unite in protecting the planet -- especially endangered species -- and space exploration.

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