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Omaha Steve

(99,757 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:52 AM Sep 2015

Clinton endorsement divides teachers union

Source: Politico

By ANNIE KARNI

Top brass of the 3 million-strong National Education Association, the country's largest union, are recommending an endorsement of Hillary Clinton, according to an email obtained by POLITICO -- a move that has many state leaders and rank-and-file members planning to protest the early endorsement.

The email, sent from the union's campaign office, states that the NEA PAC, the union’s political arm, is planning to hold an upcoming vote “recommending Hillary Clinton for the presidential primary.”

“After months of interactions with the three candidates who chose to participate in our process [Clinton, Martin O’Malley and Bernie Sanders], certain things became clear,” the email states. “Clinton is the best positioned candidate to win both the Democratic primary and general election. She has unmatched organizational strength, ground game, and fundraising ability to defeat the candidate of the Koch brothers.”

The email noted that while Clinton is the candidate the union believes is most likely to win, both Clinton and Sanders received “A” rankings on NEA’s congressional legislative scorecard, and O’Malley was voted NEA’s Governor of the Year. The email says the union hired a Republican consultant to reached out to Republican candidates, but none chose to participate in the endorsement process.

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-teachers-union-214190

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Clinton endorsement divides teachers union (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2015 OP
"I want it now!" Android3.14 Sep 2015 #1
wow that isn't sexist dsc Sep 2015 #3
Why thank you Android3.14 Sep 2015 #5
well lets see dsc Sep 2015 #6
Then, in the interest gender equality, may I present another metaphor for a self entitled person... Android3.14 Sep 2015 #8
There you go, Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #15
Don't worry, someone will be along in a while to say that this is sexist, too. dogknob Sep 2015 #20
For a bunch of educated people they do not appear to be able to read the writing on the wall. Ford_Prefect Sep 2015 #2
"fundraising ability to defeat the candidate of the Koch brothers." Last I checked... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #4
Rest assured, the Kochs did not drop out just because Scott Walker did. merrily Sep 2015 #13
This seems to be one of those revolving door pre-appointmentship deals. And what is the DhhD Sep 2015 #7
Sanders denied access to board which was provided to Clinton. Divernan Sep 2015 #9
So goddamned corrupt. stillwaiting Sep 2015 #10
A few quids here;a few quos there & bob's your uncle, leadership in Clinton's pocket. Divernan Sep 2015 #12
I just don't understand why anyone is endorsing a candidate this far out ripcord Sep 2015 #23
Another lie about Sanders. merrily Sep 2015 #14
Re Clintonistas: Put everything in writing; sent it registered mail, return receipt requested! Divernan Sep 2015 #16
Part II in which Sidney Blumenthal raises his nefarious head. Divernan Sep 2015 #17
Another lie. No surprise. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #27
Sounds to me that the NEA is in favor of privitizing our jwirr Sep 2015 #11
As an educator I'm just gob-smacked . . FairWinds Sep 2015 #18
The leaders of the NEA seem to have an agenda that does not include protecting public education, peacebird Sep 2015 #19
+1 Enthusiast Sep 2015 #25
The JEB?ster was my gubbernor d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #22
+1 Enthusiast Sep 2015 #26
+1 Enthusiast Sep 2015 #24
My comments to NEA Ned Flanders Sep 2015 #21
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. Why thank you
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:31 AM
Sep 2015

I didn't realize someone needed to point out that behaving like a snotty entitled 1-percenter impotently demanding people bow and scrape to their supposed superiority is something that crosses genders, but I'm glad you stepped in.


dsc

(52,168 posts)
6. well lets see
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:55 AM
Sep 2015

when Obama gets compared to blacks who are viewed negatively we call that racist but you feel free to compare Hillary, who it should be noted, isn't in charge of when this endorsement is issued, to a woman who is viewed unfavorably, for the unpardonable sin of seeking and apparently getting an endorsement and we aren't to dare call that sexist. All righty then.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
8. Then, in the interest gender equality, may I present another metaphor for a self entitled person...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

seeking power at the cost of regular folks.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
20. Don't worry, someone will be along in a while to say that this is sexist, too.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 01:32 PM
Sep 2015

There's always this, but I guess it would require too much explanation.

The whole thing is applicable, but I cued it to the payoff...

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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. "fundraising ability to defeat the candidate of the Koch brothers." Last I checked...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:29 AM
Sep 2015

Scott Walker dropped out of the race.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
7. This seems to be one of those revolving door pre-appointmentship deals. And what is the
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:05 AM
Sep 2015

difference between the Clinton campaign money machine and Koch backing?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. Sanders denied access to board which was provided to Clinton.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:36 AM
Sep 2015

Talk about a biased selection process, followed by blatant, lying denial of same by top union spokesperson!

When it comes to the national NEA endorsement, however, Sanders’ campaign told POLITICO it did not get the same consideration from union officials as Clinton.

“There was recently a phone interview that was arranged for Secretary Clinton with their board of directors,” said a Sanders campaign official. “That was never offered to us.” An NEA spokesman did not respond to a request for comment about the phone interview.

But the spokesman said that Clinton, Sanders and O’Malley have all met in person with NEA’s president. And on July 2, the NEA reached out to the three campaigns to invite them to participate in a tele-town hall with members. They said Sanders never responded. “After multiple attempts, the campaign failed to respond to our efforts to schedule a time and date for this tele-town hall during the back to school period. Sec. Clinton was the only campaign to respond,” the spokesman said. Sanders’ campaign refuted that claim.

"Our national field director, Phil Fiermonte, had conversations with the NEA's political director, Carrie Pugh, on more than one occasion and discussed possible dates for a tele-town hall with the senator," Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said. "To say the Sanders' campaign 'failed to respond' is simply not true. In fact, a request by the Sanders campaign to allow the senator the same opportunity as Mrs. Clinton to speak with the NEA's board of directors was denied."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-teachers-union-214190#ixzz3n8cqBW8Q

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
10. So goddamned corrupt.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:59 AM
Sep 2015

Infiltrating union leadership was clearly as important to industry as infiltrating the Democratic Party.

It's time to take the power back where we need to do so.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
12. A few quids here;a few quos there & bob's your uncle, leadership in Clinton's pocket.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:15 AM
Sep 2015

That old revolving door would be spinning at warp speed in a Clinton administration.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. Re Clintonistas: Put everything in writing; sent it registered mail, return receipt requested!
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:00 PM
Sep 2015

Or have video, like the sniper-free airport greeting in Bosnia. Here is a scathing analysis of that incident by Christopher Hitchens, in Salon:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2008/03/the_tall_tale_of_tuzla.html

The Tall Tale of Tuzla

Hillary Clinton's Bosnian misadventure should disqualify her from the presidency, but the airport landing is the least of it.(subheadline)

The punishment visited on Sen. Hillary Clinton for her flagrant, hysterical, repetitive, pathological lying about her visit to Bosnia should be much heavier than it has yet been and should be exacted for much more than just the lying itself. There are two kinds of deliberate and premeditated deceit, commonly known as suggestio falsi and suppressio veri. (Neither of them is covered by the additionally lying claim of having "misspoken.&quot The first involves what seems to be most obvious in the present case: the putting forward of a bogus or misleading account of events. But the second, and often the more serious, means that the liar in question has also attempted to bury or to obscure something that actually is true. Let us examine how Sen. Clinton has managed to commit both of these offenses to veracity and decency and how in doing so she has rivaled, if not indeed surpassed, the disbarred and perjured hack who is her husband and tutor.

I remember disembarking at the Sarajevo airport in the summer of 1992 after an agonizing flight on a U.N. relief plane that had had to "corkscrew" its downward approach in order to avoid Serbian flak and ground fire. As I hunched over to scuttle the distance to the terminal, a mortar shell fell as close to me as I ever want any mortar shell to fall. The vicious noise it made is with me still. And so is the shock I felt at seeing a civilized and multicultural European city bombarded round the clock by an ethno-religious militia under the command of fascistic barbarians. I didn't like the Clinton candidacy even then, but I have to report that many Bosnians were enthused by Bill Clinton's pledge, during that ghastly summer, to abandon the hypocritical and sordid neutrality of the George H.W. Bush/James Baker regime and to come to the defense of the victims of ethnic cleansing.

I am recalling these two things for a reason. First, and even though I admit that I did once later misidentify a building in Sarajevo from a set of photographs, I can tell you for an absolute certainty that it would be quite impossible to imagine that one had undergone that experience at the airport if one actually had not. Yet Sen. Clinton, given repeated chances to modify her absurd claim to have operated under fire while in the company of her then-16-year-old daughter and a USO entertainment troupe, kept up a stone-faced and self-loving insistence that, yes, she had exposed herself to sniper fire in the cause of gaining moral credit and, perhaps to be banked for the future, national-security "experience." This must mean either a) that she lies without conscience or reflection; or b) that she is subject to fantasies of an illusory past; or c) both of the above. Any of the foregoing would constitute a disqualification for the presidency of the United States.

Yet this is only to underline the YouTube version of events and the farcical or stupid or Howard Wolfson (take your pick) aspects of the story. But here is the historical rather than personal aspect, which is what you should keep your eye on. Note the date of Sen. Clinton's visit to Tuzla. She went there in March 1996. By that time, the critical and tragic phase of the Bosnia war was effectively over, as was the greater part of her husband's first term. What had happened in the interim? In particular, what had happened to the 1992 promise, four years earlier, that genocide in Bosnia would be opposed by a Clinton administration?
(continued below)

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
17. Part II in which Sidney Blumenthal raises his nefarious head.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:01 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 29, 2015, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)

In the event, President Bill Clinton had not found it convenient to keep this promise. Let me quote from Sally Bedell Smith's admirable book on the happy couple, For Love of Politics:

Taking the advice of Al Gore and National Security Advisor Tony Lake, Bill agreed to a proposal to bomb Serbian military positions while helping the Muslims acquire weapons to defend themselves—the fulfillment of a pledge he had made during the 1992 campaign. But instead of pushing European leaders, he directed Secretary of State Warren Christopher merely to consult with them. When they balked at the plan, Bill quickly retreated, creating a "perception of drift." The key factor in Bill's policy reversal was Hillary, who was said to have "deep misgivings" and viewed the situation as "a Vietnam that would compromise health-care reform." The United States took no further action in Bosnia, and the "ethnic cleansing" by the Serbs was to continue for four more years, resulting in the deaths of more than 250,000 people.

I can personally witness to the truth of this, too. I can remember, first, one of the Clintons' closest personal advisers—Sidney Blumenthal—referring with acid contempt to Warren Christopher as "a blend of Pontius Pilate with Ichabod Crane." I can remember, second, a meeting with Clinton's then-Secretary of Defense Les Aspin at the British Embassy. When I challenged him on the sellout of the Bosnians, he drew me aside and told me that he had asked the White House for permission to land his own plane at Sarajevo airport, if only as a gesture of reassurance that the United States had not forgotten its commitments. The response from the happy couple was unambiguous: He was to do no such thing, lest it distract attention from the first lady's health care "initiative."

It's hardly necessary for me to point out that the United States did not receive national health care in return for its acquiescence in the murder of tens of thousands of European civilians. But perhaps that is the least of it. Were I to be asked if Sen. Clinton has ever lost any sleep over those heaps of casualties, I have the distinct feeling that I could guess the answer. She has no tears for anyone but herself. In the end, and over her strenuous objections, the United States and its allies did rescue our honor and did put an end to Slobodan Milosevic and his state-supported terrorism. Yet instead of preserving a polite reticence about this, or at least an appropriate reserve, Sen. Clinton now has the obscene urge to claim the raped and slaughtered people of Bosnia as if their misery and death were somehow to be credited to her account! Words begin to fail one at this point. Is there no such thing as shame? Is there no decency at last? Let the memory of the truth, and the exposure of the lie, at least make us resolve that no Clinton ever sees the inside of the White House again.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Sounds to me that the NEA is in favor of privitizing our
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:07 AM
Sep 2015

school system.

Unmatched organizational skills - that is why she is dropping in the polls? Ground game - in a word that is why she is dropping in the polls - this is not a game. That is why Bernie is rising in the polls? Fundraising ability - it does not take much to sell out to the corporate donors.

I am glad to see that the rank and file are not happy and are going to protest. If this bunch of corporate leaning top leaders are an example of what our teachers across the country think then we are in big trouble when it comes to what they are teaching our children.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
18. As an educator I'm just gob-smacked . .
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:14 PM
Sep 2015

that the NEA would even THINK of endorsing HRC given her
support of charter schools.

From Education Week . . "Hillary Clinton has already mentioned
that she also supports pubic charter schools -- an issue that she
coincidentally aligns her beliefs with Jeb Bush."

It's like teachers endorsing the theft of their jobs.

[BTW, if it makes any difference, I'm, from Ohio - ground zero
for charter school corruption.]

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
19. The leaders of the NEA seem to have an agenda that does not include protecting public education,
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:47 PM
Sep 2015

Or those who teach there....

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
22. The JEB?ster was my gubbernor
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:27 PM
Sep 2015

and I can tell you first hand those charter schools suck ass! I wonder if the heads of the NEA took a deal. After all, there is no money in education unless you're a charter school...

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
21. My comments to NEA
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:39 PM
Sep 2015

I visited their website and used the "Contact Us" link to send in my comments:

"I was very disappointed to learn your organization is considering endorsing Hillary Clinton for president. She is a career politician, who will put her own interests above those of the nation. Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is what this nation so desperately needs. He will do what is right, and will not be bought by special interests. He has a long track record of representing The People, not The Wealthy, and any comparison of the two candidates should make it abundantly clear who is better for this nation. Please make the right choice. Our nation needs Bernie Sanders."

LULZ for those who are getting pissed about Bernie Sanders supporters storming websites. We are angry. We are excited about Bernie. We will not go quietly.

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