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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:17 AM Sep 2015

Carly Fiorina Jets to 2nd Place Behind Donald Trump (24-15%)

Last edited Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN/KTLA 1 hour ago

Carly Fiorina has rocketed into second place in the Republican presidential field on the heels another strong debate and Donald Trump has lost support, a new national CNN/ORC poll shows.The survey, conducted the three days after 23 million people tuned into Wednesday night’s GOP debate on CNN, shows that Trump is still the party’s front-runner with 24% support. That, though, is an 8 percentage point decrease from earlier in the month when a similar poll had him at 32%. Fiorina ranks second with 15% support — up from 3% in early September. She’s just ahead of Ben Carson’s 14%, though Carson’s support has also declined from 19% in the previous poll.

Driving Trump’s drop and Fiorina’s rise: A debate in which 31% of Republicans who watched said Trump was the loser, and 52% identified Fiorina as the winner. During the CNN debate, Fiorina clashed with Trump over his personal attacks and their business records and scored points for her condemnation of Planned Parenthood. The top three contenders underscore a key theme in the 2016 race: In a jam-packed GOP presidential field, the leading candidates are the only ones who have never held political office.

But one established politician has seen his standing rise after flashing foreign policy chops on the debate stage. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio — who 14% of Republicans identified as Wednesday’s winner, putting him second behind Fiorina — is now in fourth place with 11% support, up from 3% in a previous poll. In fifth place is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, at 9%. He’s followed by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 6% each, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul at 4%, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 3%, Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 2% and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum at 1%. Five other candidates received less than one-half of 1 percentage point support: former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former New York Gov. George Pataki and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Carson was a quiet presence in Wednesday’s debate, but he remains the most popular candidate in the GOP field, with 65% of Republican voters saying they view him favorably, compared to just 10% saying they have an unfavorable opinion of the retired neurosurgeon.

Rubio ranks second in the popularity contest, with 57% viewing him favorably and 16% unfavorably. He’s followed by Fiorina (54% favorable to 17% unfavorable), Huckabee (53% to 28% unfavorable), Cruz (52% to 22%) and Trump (52% to 40%). The biggest positive movement was in favor of Fiorina — whose favorability rating has climbed by 9 percentage points since August. And the biggest drop hit Trump, who shed 6 percentage points in that same period. But Trump still stands out on the issues. About 44% of likely GOP voters say they see Trump as the candidate who could best handle the economy — well ahead of his nearest competitors: Fiorina at 11%, Rubio at 10% and Bush at 8%.Trump also wins on immigration, with 47% saying he could best address the issue, ahead of second-place Rubio’s 15% and Bush’s 9%. He even edges Rubio, 22% to 17%, on who could best handle foreign policy

Read more: http://ktla.com/2015/09/20/carly-fiorina-jets-to-2nd-place-behind-donald-trump-in-republican-presidential-race/

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Carly Fiorina Jets to 2nd Place Behind Donald Trump (24-15%) (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2015 OP
Republicans love liars who have great track records of destroying everything they touch. onecaliberal Sep 2015 #1
LOL. "Jets" & "Rockets." The corporate/state media really wants a horse race to get that ad revenue. PSPS Sep 2015 #2
Carly knows a thing or two about buying yachts & jets after 30,000 workers were terminated big_dog Sep 2015 #5
My first thought was that it was a backhanded reference to the WestSeattle2 Sep 2015 #23
A win for democrats Geronimoe Sep 2015 #3
Come on, at least a dozen of the others would be just as easy! 7962 Sep 2015 #9
And the opposition to Carly... RealistComments Sep 2015 #32
Watch out for Rubio oberliner Sep 2015 #4
Can someone explain "context" to CNN Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #6
It's the economy Geronimoe Sep 2015 #7
It's a tough call, and it's all relative, but ... Newsjock Sep 2015 #8
Hello Folks ,The Donald Here ! Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #10
those Time cover pics are some of the most hilarious ever, I cannot get enough of them big_dog Sep 2015 #12
The Donald Here, Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #18
im surprised Trump didnt try and stuff the endangered bird it when Time put it in his office big_dog Sep 2015 #24
The Donald here Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #25
the red velvet furniture is a nice touch too-so classy! big_dog Sep 2015 #27
The Donald here Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #29
agree. Every once in awhile, Trump sounds like the Dem he used to be wordpix Sep 2015 #17
From what I have seen Old Codger Sep 2015 #11
love your post wordpix Sep 2015 #15
I've been watching the Sunday blah-blah-blah shows off and on today and I haven't seen Vinca Sep 2015 #13
The Rich are Entitled ReactFlux Sep 2015 #14
Failorina's big lie was a hit with the repukes! I would love Bernie or Biden to go up wordpix Sep 2015 #16
Was She Recently on "What Not To Wear"? NonMetro Sep 2015 #19
so. The media is pushing that, but the fact is that Trump is still leading in the field of bigots still_one Sep 2015 #20
Show us the video Geronimoe Sep 2015 #21
Their frontrunner has 24%? Cracklin Charlie Sep 2015 #22
I had an unfortunate experience with a Fiornia staffer in 2010. RandySF Sep 2015 #26
Telling a heinous lie about Democrats gave her a huge bump with Republicans? merrily Sep 2015 #28
Let's feed this headline into our iNews 5000 WiFi Headline Translator. longship Sep 2015 #30
An amusing "push" from CNN. sofa king Sep 2015 #31

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
2. LOL. "Jets" & "Rockets." The corporate/state media really wants a horse race to get that ad revenue.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:24 AM
Sep 2015
 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
3. A win for democrats
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:42 AM
Sep 2015

Carly would be the easiest to beat in the general. She has a record of failure.

Lucent went bankrupt. Fired at HP. Fired from McCain campaign. She hasn't worked for 11 years. She lost to Barbara Boxer in bid for Senate. At HP she sold to Iran, violating US sanctions. Her outsourcing US josb to Asia and India will not sit well with many voters. Her $100 million in salary, perks, and bonuses in four years, while destroying HP is not a record anyone can run on.

 

RealistComments

(20 posts)
32. And the opposition to Carly...
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:48 PM
Sep 2015

... would likely be Hillary Clinton who (along with her husband0 is documented to have received $140 million from corporations the last 7 years.

Be careful about what you wish for.

Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
8. It's a tough call, and it's all relative, but ...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:59 AM
Sep 2015

... I dare say that Mr. Trump would do less damage to America than would Ms. Fiorina. And that's saying something.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
10. Hello Folks ,The Donald Here !
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:18 PM
Sep 2015


I couldn't perfectly agree more ! At the face of it,she offers little more than nothing !

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
12. those Time cover pics are some of the most hilarious ever, I cannot get enough of them
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:02 PM
Sep 2015
?quality=65&strip=color&w=746

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
18. The Donald Here,
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:43 PM
Sep 2015


Yes ,sometimes too much is never enough ! What I can tell you is what it says here is more than even I myself believe. I mean it's just far too great, over and above fantastic. You might recall Big dog I told you Christie would fall somewhere between 1 % and 1.2 %. Thats what it says here since the 1st. debate ,actually prior to that but thats classified stuff in what it says here for my eyes only ! Well he did fall there and walked into the 2nd debate right there in that number ! Christie should be somewhere between 1/2 a point and less but I have use of him for now until I no longer have use of him.

And Jeb Bush, he will eventually fall to at or about 3% as I said, but that doesn't mean his numbers will hold there,- but he will will fall there. And the funny thing about it is ,he does it to himself ! Now when Jeb falls there the Bush battalion will step in and save fallen hide but he will sign himself over to their battalion and do and not do everything they say !
There is quite a bit about all that in what is says here !

Carly is flowering currently but I assure you in the tomorrows to come she will wither away same as she did twice in California !

As to the rest of them, they are all dumb dumbs !
It has to be me big dog ,I just don't see it any other way.
It says so here too by the way ! It also says a solid 47 % lead will eventually happen for the Trump camp ! I shouldn't really be speaking that far into it, but hay, it says so here so it must be ok !

By the way big dog, I am working up a T shirt idea ,how's this one, the republican nomination is not a free for all !
It's time to get rid of some of those dumb dumbs ,they take up to much of the air and they leave rest of it stuffy !
I hired an expert wordsmith to work it out in concept -he came back with this off the top- The republican nomination isn't a free for all- it's time to clear the air.

Great entertainment ahead folks, great entertainment ,stay tuned !



Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
25. The Donald here
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:56 PM
Sep 2015


Oh no, thats a very bad thing to say- no you got it wrong, it is Christie that needs a good stuffing ,he's a turkey !

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
27. the red velvet furniture is a nice touch too-so classy!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:44 PM
Sep 2015

worthy of a good chicken ranch in Nevada, possible t-shirt ideas so far.. ?v=1439657551

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
29. The Donald here
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:32 AM
Sep 2015


I like what it says. It says great thinking ,to make the country great again it takes great thinking .I think the concept has fantastic possibilities, I think this idea might just work it's way into something great. I see billboards great massive billboards.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
17. agree. Every once in awhile, Trump sounds like the Dem he used to be
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:23 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe he'd kick Congress' ass. Not that I'd vote for him, but he's the best of the clowns.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
11. From what I have seen
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:58 PM
Sep 2015

If I were to enter the race and stand at a podium and call Obama a bunch of names as has been done then kick a few latinos and maybe throw an anchor baby into a fire and declare that I am a young black man I would probably jump into the lead and maybe win the repug nomination..


P.S.I am actually an old fat white man...but the truth is pretty transient on the repug campaign trail..looks as if the bigger the lie the more love they get.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
13. I've been watching the Sunday blah-blah-blah shows off and on today and I haven't seen
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:08 PM
Sep 2015

one person mention Carley's GIANT lie about Planned Parenthood. IMHO, that was one of the nastiest attacks I've ever seen and I wish Planned Parenthood would sue her for making it.

 

ReactFlux

(62 posts)
14. The Rich are Entitled
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sep 2015

We need to prevent these entitled fools from buying the people's house.

Dark times in America.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
16. Failorina's big lie was a hit with the repukes! I would love Bernie or Biden to go up
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:21 PM
Sep 2015

against her but I think it will be The Donald.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
21. Show us the video
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:38 PM
Sep 2015

People should demand that she show us that video. If it existed, don't you think we all would have seen it on Fox News by now?

RandySF

(58,919 posts)
26. I had an unfortunate experience with a Fiornia staffer in 2010.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:18 PM
Sep 2015

Someone lived in my building in 2010 who worked for the Fiorina campaign who got locked out of his place and asked if he could use our phone. But over the course of his conversation, he started using the "n-word" and I promptly kicked him out.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. Telling a heinous lie about Democrats gave her a huge bump with Republicans?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:22 AM
Sep 2015

Imagine that.

Little known fact: Fiorina is actually a zombie who eats the brains of Republicans right after they vote. True story.

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. Let's feed this headline into our iNews 5000 WiFi Headline Translator.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:23 AM
Sep 2015

Fire up the iNews 5000 and feed it a headline:

Carly Fiorina Jets to 2nd Place Behind Donald Trump (24-15%)


Spring, sprong, bing, bong, boingggg, DING!

Translation: Carly Fiorina Battles Trump for Oblivion.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
31. An amusing "push" from CNN.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 09:07 AM
Sep 2015

CNN bent their own rules to get Fiorina into the adult swim debates, and has been studiously ignoring and downplaying her dishonest performance, and I assume has made sure to drop her name frequently in their own broadcast and print.

My guess is that this move is designed to generate more interest in CNN, by creating a more interesting narrative in the ongoing clown circus that is the Republican Presidential Herd.

And that's all fun and games for 2015, but the ramifications are as serious as the time we let some plutocrats get close enough to steal the whole thing, allow the worst terror attacks on the nation, lie to start a war, double-dunk the nation in recession while wages fell, and steal one-third of all American homes while reducing the life expectancy of most Americans.

So we can laugh now, but I don't have anything left to lose in 2017.

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