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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 01:52 PM Sep 2015

Dr. Ben Carson: Christians Can Refuse To Do Their Jobs Because 'This Is A Judeo-Christian Nation'

Source: Right Wing Watch 9/9/2015 1:15 pm

On Fox News, Dr. Ben Carson defended Rowan County, Kentucky, clerk Kim Davis’ decision to prevent her office from issuing marriage licenses because she has religious objections to gay marriage.

Ironically, Carson said that gays are trying to force their “way of life” on Davis: “I don’t actually believe that they have the right to force their way of life upon everybody else, nor would I want to force my way of life upon everybody else.” Of course, it is Davis who is using a public office to impose her religious views on others, and gay couples are only asking that she follow the law.

When the host asked Carson if he believes that a Muslim county clerk should have a right to “refuse a marriage license to Muslims who want to marry Christians,” the GOP presidential candidate said that Christians can cite their religious beliefs to refuse marriage licenses because “this is a Judeo-Christian nation in the sense that a lot of our values and principles are based on our Judeo-Christian faith."



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Dr. Ben Carson: Christians Can Refuse To Do Their Jobs Because 'This Is A Judeo-Christian Nation' (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2015 OP
Btw. With Evilhair running cover for him, this guy could very easily be our next president. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #1
Not gonna happen! ananda Sep 2015 #2
As long as gas doesn't go up much just before then. Else we might get to jtuck004 Sep 2015 #9
Or Vice President Biden FrodosPet Sep 2015 #25
I highly doubt that Politicalboi Sep 2015 #3
he's too soft spoken, the wingnuts will never let him win big_dog Sep 2015 #6
I actually saw this interview last night underpants Sep 2015 #7
He is 2nd behing Trump in many polls.--if Trump falters--he will be#1!! Unbelievable!! riversedge Sep 2015 #27
It's refreshing to hear one of them admit it TlalocW Sep 2015 #4
Dr. Ben is a blockhead! Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #5
It shouldn't matter if it's public or private passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #29
Get...Out...The...VOTE! SoapBox Sep 2015 #8
How is entering two names and certified issuing any different then every past day as clerk Person 2713 Sep 2015 #10
therefore it is also ok to discriminate against christians and people of a different race etc nt msongs Sep 2015 #11
If Carson talks on a radio station that broadcasts games where people touch pigskin on Sunday, jtuck004 Sep 2015 #12
I wish these numbnuts MurrayDelph Sep 2015 #13
But our laws are secular, Ben. Break the law, go to jail. Aristus Sep 2015 #14
Dr. Ben Carson: Christians Can Refuse To Do Their Jobs Because 'This Is A Judeo-Christian Nation' The CCC Sep 2015 #15
Ben ignores the Constitution. muntrv Sep 2015 #16
That would be a good question for the next debate LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2015 #17
good thing restorefreedom Sep 2015 #18
I'm betting he's saying this, even though he knows it's not true sakabatou Sep 2015 #19
Thank you for yor interest in the open position, Dr. Carson Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #20
never has , never will be a " christian nation". allan01 Sep 2015 #21
It has nothing to do with religion, but anyone can refuse to do their job as long as the individual 24601 Sep 2015 #22
Fool. n/t spiderpig Sep 2015 #23
Nope rockfordfile Sep 2015 #24
Unless you're a slave, of course you can refuse to do your job. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #26
I am led to believe that Dr. Carson is/was a brilliant neurosurgeon SwankyXomb Sep 2015 #28
So much for the saying "What do you think I am, a Neurosugoen?" smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #30
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. As long as gas doesn't go up much just before then. Else we might get to
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:21 PM
Sep 2015

eat those words, after what that will do to our food budgets. Note that gas went down this year, which helps the incumbent party. If it goes up much, especially not too long before Nov 2016, we could easily see a change. It's has worked that way for decades now.

I'm not sure Evilhair wants to be pres - his campaign is too loose, and he knows it. But he could easily play this, use his powers of buffoonery to continue to destroy any thoughts of compassion, fair play, judgement. If he drops out, he has been providing great cover for Carson, who could then be our second black president.

If The Hair plays his cards right, he will profit from all this and not have to pretend to be statesmanlike. He couldn't pull that off anyway, and he knows it. There isn't one of our enemies who wouldn't start making plans to take us out with bonehead at the helm, because they know he is spineless and his ego would get everyone here killed.

No one seemed to think that little two-bit clerk in Germany was gonna bring us WWII until it was too late, so I don't underestimate these people.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. I highly doubt that
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015

I have no intension of voting for him. He may be a brain surgeon, but he ain't got no brains.

underpants

(182,883 posts)
7. I actually saw this interview last night
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:17 PM
Sep 2015

He is beyond soft spoken. I think the plants in the he did the remote from fell asleep.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
4. It's refreshing to hear one of them admit it
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:03 PM
Sep 2015

Normally when someone talks about religious freedom or bringing prayer back to school, they try to gloss over that what they want only applies to Christianity (and in many cases, a certain kind of Christianity). Carson is kind of finally admitting what others have tried to be somewhat tight-lipped about because couching it in terms of a blanket description of religion can sometimes make it harder to fight against whatever they're proposing whereas taking a Christians Only bent is normally automatically illegal.

TlalocW

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
5. Dr. Ben is a blockhead!
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:06 PM
Sep 2015

We are talking about the government, which is by the US Constitution, secular.

Numbnuts:

“I don’t actually believe that they have the right to force their way of life upon everybody else, nor would I want to force my way of life upon everybody else.”


No, dunderhead, the US Supreme Court... SUPREME Court! The US Supreme Court is forcing it on you because you are a gay-hating, woman-hating, shameless, lying bastard!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
29. It shouldn't matter if it's public or private
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

If a christian has the right not to do what their job entails, then the employer has the right not to hire them in the first place, or to fire them after the fact. They have as much right to be able to hire someone who "will" do the job, as the employee has the right not to do that job. Nobody should be forced to hire or keep someone who won't do their job, just because they are Christian, or for any other reason. Unless, of course, they are trying to get them to do something illegal.

This nation is getting way too whacked out about religious stuff. I left religion when I realized it was crazy but it's been getting crazier ever since. Somehow, we need to end this religious stuff and become a secular nation again. But how do we do that?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. Get...Out...The...VOTE!
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:18 PM
Sep 2015

Let me remind EVERYONE of the crazy fucks that have been voted into offices all over America.

California voted (at least the majority of those that cast ballots) in the WORST Govenor ever...Schwartzenegger. Disaster!

Hell, they voted in Bush.

The only way to insure that we do not end up with crazy in the White House is to VOTE!

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
10. How is entering two names and certified issuing any different then every past day as clerk
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

What way of life is being forced on these paranoid bible freaks ?
Too bad they don't read the constitution just bible and church babble crap
It's a license not a judgement call folks

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
12. If Carson talks on a radio station that broadcasts games where people touch pigskin on Sunday,
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

can we destroy the station if we really believe Leviticus?


Wait. Is that pulled pork on their tailgate?




MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)
13. I wish these numbnuts
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:10 PM
Sep 2015

would stop lumping us "Judeos" in with them.

If they get their way, we're still on their chopping block, once they get rid of the other "undesirables."

The CCC

(463 posts)
15. Dr. Ben Carson: Christians Can Refuse To Do Their Jobs Because 'This Is A Judeo-Christian Nation'
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:20 PM
Sep 2015

Funny that isn't what the Constitution and the Treaty of Tripoli say.

US Constitution Art 6 "but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States".

Treaty of Tripoli Art. 11. "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;... ."

Mr. Carson has no intention of upholding his Oath of Office should he, in the highly unlikely event, be elected as President. Thus he is a liar from the beginning.

17. That would be a good question for the next debate
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

"How many of you support County Clerk Kim Davis's assertion that she doesn't have to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because it is against her religious beliefs?"

We know where Huckabee, Cruz and now Carson stand (agree), and how Jeb! and Trump view it (do your f*cking job!). It would be nice to get everyone on the record.

Follow up question: "What would you do if Congress passed a law that went against your religious beliefs? Would you enforce it?" I already know what Scott Walker would say, "I don't answer hypothetical questions. I'll tell you what I'll do once I'm sworn in as President" (don't hold your breath, Scotty).

24601

(3,962 posts)
22. It has nothing to do with religion, but anyone can refuse to do their job as long as the individual
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 04:44 PM
Sep 2015

is willing to accept the consequences.

For most people, that would mean being fired.

For a Soldier, under certain conditions, it could mean a firing squad.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Unless you're a slave, of course you can refuse to do your job.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:09 PM
Sep 2015

Of course, this is typically followed by 'I quit.' or 'You're fired.'

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
28. I am led to believe that Dr. Carson is/was a brilliant neurosurgeon
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:35 PM
Sep 2015

What happened? Did he experiment on himself?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. So much for the saying "What do you think I am, a Neurosugoen?"
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:17 PM
Sep 2015

I guess the Rocket Scientist option is still up for grabs, however.

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