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Omaha Steve

(99,772 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:14 AM Sep 2015

Judge lets Brady play, ruling against NFL in 'Deflategate' (UPDATE)

Source: AP

By LARRY NEUMEISTER and TOM HAYS

NEW YORK (AP) — A federal judge deflated "Deflategate" Thursday, erasing New England quarterback Tom Brady's four-game suspension for a controversy that the NFL claimed threatened football's integrity.

U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman said NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell went too far in affirming punishment of the Super Bowl winning quarterback. Brady has insisted he played no role in a conspiracy to deflate footballs below the allowable limit at last season's AFC championship game.

The written decision frees Brady to prepare for the Sept. 10 season opener against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

The ruling was a surprise to some legal experts who believed Berman was merely pressuring the league to settle when he criticized its handling of the investigation and discipline over the last eight months.

FULL story at link.



FILE - In this April 31, 2015, file photo, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady leaves Federal court in New York. Brady can suit up for his team's season opener after a judge erased his four-game suspension for "Deflategate." (AP Photo/Richard Drew, File)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/447fd7860e6b4d148130e7dce66c53c3/judge-lets-brady-play-ruling-against-nfl-deflategate



I will update ASAP!
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Judge lets Brady play, ruling against NFL in 'Deflategate' (UPDATE) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2015 OP
Goodell has to go now AngryAmish Sep 2015 #1
If Goodell has any integrity left he will resign. yellowcanine Sep 2015 #15
That's GREAT! Brady did nothing wrong, this is just a bunch of hot AIR because..... George II Sep 2015 #2
Well the NFL can't prove he did anything wrong, anyway. yellowcanine Sep 2015 #14
And you can? elias7 Sep 2015 #28
Uh - need to read more carefully what I said. yellowcanine Sep 2015 #29
Apologies elias7 Sep 2015 #31
Just gives me more reason to tune out Professional Sports liberal N proud Sep 2015 #3
Well, I hope you're liberal N proud of yourself! Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #7
Ridiculous. he should've had to sit at least 1 game. 7962 Sep 2015 #4
AAAAAAAWWWWWWWSSSSOOOMMMEEEE!!!!! asiliveandbreathe Sep 2015 #5
LMAO underpants Sep 2015 #6
They (the pats and brady) got away w/cheating Botany Sep 2015 #8
Booooooooo iandhr Sep 2015 #9
The Cheaters. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #27
The Cheatriots Dr. Strange Sep 2015 #30
Hey kids - when teacher tells you not to lie, hand him this and tell him you are gonna cheat jtuck004 Sep 2015 #10
Rather smug, grin reminds me of W after 2004 election. n/t gordianot Sep 2015 #11
Not often two goats make LBN. bluedigger Sep 2015 #12
W00t!!! meegbear Sep 2015 #13
Football owners always win. nt Stellar Sep 2015 #16
go Steelers n/t yodermon Sep 2015 #17
Who the hell cares. Daemonaquila Sep 2015 #18
Yeah, but he still cheated. Iggo Sep 2015 #19
What a waste of time and money. Agschmid Sep 2015 #20
There used to be this expression... malthaussen Sep 2015 #21
The Patriots are cheaters and they will get caught again. fbc Sep 2015 #22
Gee, I wonder who picked Brady in his football fantasy league!!!!! benld74 Sep 2015 #23
Brady Cheated, Attempted to cheat, or covered up the fact d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #24
if it was such a big deal then the NFL should have banned them from the Super Bowl Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #25
Goodell doesn't have the stones to do that d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #26
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
1. Goodell has to go now
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:18 AM
Sep 2015

OK, this is utterly knee jerk and I know nothing but the headline, but if the cba says the Commissioner has to decide discipline, and the only way to get an agreed upon in a cba discipline tossed is for arbitrary, capricious or unfair decision, then Godell's judgmenty and fairness is holed below the waterline. He can't go on.

yellowcanine

(35,702 posts)
15. If Goodell has any integrity left he will resign.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:09 AM
Sep 2015

Another seriously botched "investigation." It is beyond embarrassing. It is now officially a scandal in its own right.

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. That's GREAT! Brady did nothing wrong, this is just a bunch of hot AIR because.....
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:20 AM
Sep 2015

.....people around the league are just jealous.

There's going to be a big opening day ovation for him in Foxboro!!!!!!!!!

yellowcanine

(35,702 posts)
14. Well the NFL can't prove he did anything wrong, anyway.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:07 AM
Sep 2015

Which is why I suspect that the judge ruled the way he did.

But having said that, to ascribe this to jealousy around the league is a rationalization by Brady fans.

elias7

(4,029 posts)
28. And you can?
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:56 AM
Sep 2015

Why do you presume guilt? Did you hear the case? Did you know that 3 of 4 Indianapolis balls tested were also below cutoff psi? I have no dog in this fight, not a football fan, but those who call Brady a cheater and "know" he is guilty are guilty themselves of an ugly bias.

yellowcanine

(35,702 posts)
29. Uh - need to read more carefully what I said.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:00 AM
Sep 2015

I am not presuming guilt. I don't know whether he was guilty or not. I am disputing the notion that there was not anything there worth looking at as the poster implied by saying it was all about jealousy of Brady. The cell phone stuff does not look good but it is not proof. In any case, I think the NFL needs to change the way it investigates incidents and particularly how it handles appeals. They really need to hire an completely independent entity to investigate this stuff - or at least to handle appeals. Too many conflicts of interest the way things are now. You have the Commissioner hired by the owners doing the investigating and handling the appeals.

elias7

(4,029 posts)
31. Apologies
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 04:16 AM
Sep 2015

I didn't read your post closely enough, but rather lumped it in with some other comments in the thread that presumed guilt. I do agree that the appeals process does have inherent conflict of interest, and perhaps the initial investigations may as well, as the Public relations aspect of things provides an instant bias.

liberal N proud

(60,347 posts)
3. Just gives me more reason to tune out Professional Sports
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:20 AM
Sep 2015

Professional sports is a mirror of the US political system. A bunch of criminals beating up on each other cheating their way to victory, making millions from people who can not really afford it and convincing them to support the entire system and them.

I have not paid for a professional sports event since 1995. It was the era when all of them were having labor relations issues. I said at the time, that I would not give my money to any of them and I have not!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. Ridiculous. he should've had to sit at least 1 game.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:22 AM
Sep 2015

Hell, the falcons lost draft picks & a fine for playing crowd noise
The balls wouldnt have been deflated if Bray didnt like them that way. And the whole phone thing was enough for me.
Rooted for them in the Super Bowl, but no more.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. Hey kids - when teacher tells you not to lie, hand him this and tell him you are gonna cheat
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:39 AM
Sep 2015

your way to more money than he ever dreamed of.

Then laugh at him, Or her.

Think of all those tens of thousands of kids who get to learn what dishonor is. Not to young, ever, to learn that the adults around them will lie to get anything they want.

We really are so dumb we thought we were just teaching you English.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
18. Who the hell cares.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:27 AM
Sep 2015

It's a stupid game, bilking public coffers to pay for the excesses of billionaire owners. I'm tired of hearing that this is some kind of "scandal." It's no more a "scandal" than Kim Kardashian ripping her pants while out shopping. Continuing to discuss this nonsense is just feeding millionaire entertainers and billionaire owners - it's the equivalent of Pro Wrestling scripted drama intended to keep their idiot fans who think any of it is real polarized in the soap opera of it all.

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
21. There used to be this expression...
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:42 PM
Sep 2015

... "You wanna make a federal case out of it?" It indicated that one was blowing trivial issues out of all reasonable proportion.

Welcome to the 21st century.

-- Mal

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
24. Brady Cheated, Attempted to cheat, or covered up the fact
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

that he cheated. The fact that the NFL (once again) botched the investigation (the fact remains that 11 of 12 NFL balls were deflated signifying that SOMEONE cheated) means that the Patriots get away with another one! Goodell is an embarrasment of a commisioner. He really has to go!

BTW how many controversies does a team need in order to be deemed an instutution of deceitfulness? It runs deep in that team's beliefs at this point. But as they say the Superbowl must go on!

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