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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:09 PM Aug 2015

Owen Labrie Found Not Guilty of Felony Sexual Assault in Prep School Trial

Source: ABC News

Aug 28, 2015, 1:57 PM ET
By EMILY SHAPIRO



Owen Labrie was found not guilty of felony sexual assault in a case at St. Paul's School, a prestigious New Hampshire prep school.

The jury of nine men and three women delivered a not guilty verdict on the felony sexual assault charge on the second day of deliberations. He was found guilty of four misdemeanors for sexual assault and one felony related to a computer charge.

Labrie, now 19, was accused of raping a fellow student in May 2014 at the school in Concord, New Hampshire. He was charged with multiple felonies relating to the encounter and had entered a not-guilty plea.

The alleged victim, whose name is being withheld because of the nature of the crime, testified last week. "I was raped!" she said loudly amid tears. "I was violated in so many ways."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/prep-school-rape-trial-jury-reaches-verdict-owen/story?id=33381054



Based on the evidence I heard, I could not have found him guilty either...
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Owen Labrie Found Not Guilty of Felony Sexual Assault in Prep School Trial (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2015 OP
Guilty on four misdemeanors and a felony computer charge. TDale313 Aug 2015 #1
Why is that not the headline?? Strange way to report guilty verdicts on 4 sexual crimes! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #2
I've seen the headline the other way TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #24
I agree. Polly Hennessey Aug 2015 #3
Lots of conflicting evdence BdAzzSRT Aug 2015 #5
Guilty on 5 of 9 charges, but the headline he gets is 'not guilty' on one specific charge. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #4
He could get up to 11 years in prison. BlueEye Aug 2015 #7
ugh...if there was ever someone who "looked the part" Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #6
I think the jury did a good job. Chemisse Aug 2015 #8
According to the NY Times . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #10
That makes sense to me. Chemisse Aug 2015 #11
I found this paragraph from the Times article to be rather disturbing . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #12
That could have been a game changer if it explained her rather odd behavior afterwards. Chemisse Aug 2015 #13
...+1 840high Aug 2015 #14
There was some evidence of his DNA LiberalElite Aug 2015 #15
I didn't realize that. Chemisse Aug 2015 #19
Another one for the Affluenza diaries. forest444 Aug 2015 #9
Actually he isn't from a rich family FWIW LiberalElite Aug 2015 #16
I'm glad too - although absent his social status, this would have almost certainly been a felony. forest444 Aug 2015 #17
Reportedly, he is not from a rich family. Chemisse Aug 2015 #20
St. Paul's, Andover, Choate, in fact all the elite prep schools have large numbers cali Aug 2015 #21
I think the vibe of the school is rape culture olddots Aug 2015 #18
no it doesn't. cali Aug 2015 #22
But will still may serve time in jail and be registered as a sex offender for life (nt) question everything Aug 2015 #23

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. Guilty on four misdemeanors and a felony computer charge.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:16 PM
Aug 2015

Hoping for a long sentence on the other charges, but we'll see. And yeah, I think what happened to this girl was rape.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Why is that not the headline?? Strange way to report guilty verdicts on 4 sexual crimes!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:18 PM
Aug 2015

And one FELONY computer related crime!!??

I find ABC and the news aggregators guilty of felony crimes of misinformation.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
24. I've seen the headline the other way
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015

But only on Jezebel. But even though he was only found guilty of misdeamenors, he still gas to register as a sex offender and he will most likely still do time.

BdAzzSRT

(14 posts)
5. Lots of conflicting evdence
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:55 PM
Aug 2015

Based on what I've read, the rape charge was not proven.

However, I'm glad he was convicted of something...

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Guilty on 5 of 9 charges, but the headline he gets is 'not guilty' on one specific charge.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:38 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

The 'senior salute' sounds like a tradition at that 'prestigious' prep school that needs to end.

But hey, women lie, right? That's why he gets off on the felony charges. Because by default, he's more believable than she is.

I suppose by avoiding the felony sex charges, he gets to avoid being a registered sexual predator, or only has to be listed for some relatively short period. (Edit: Ah, apparently not - the computer felony charge WILL get him to have to register.)

BlueEye

(449 posts)
7. He could get up to 11 years in prison.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:11 PM
Aug 2015

Based on the maximum penalty for all five convictions, including the felony "online seduction of a minor" conviction.

In her testimony, the victim admitted that she consented to the meeting, and also to "kissing", but nothing else. Even more significantly, a 'close' female friend of the victim testified that the victim told her she was willing to engage in sexual activity with the defendant, albeit not intercourse (not sure how that isn't hearsay, but it was admitted). Under the circumstances (the ostensibly well-known 'senior salute'), those testimonies created substantial reasonable doubt that the sexual activity fully met the definition of rape, hence the verdict. I actually think the jury found correctly on those counts. Reasonable doubt = acquittal

And likewise, I'm happy he was convicted on the other charges, which seemed like a no-brainer. He knew what he was doing was wrong. But it's impossible to say for sure that she did not consent. Another female witness basically indicted her. Was she lying?

Good article here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/28/us-usa-crime-new-hampshire-idUSKCN0QX26R20150828

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
8. I think the jury did a good job.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:07 PM
Aug 2015

He said they didn't have sex. She said they did and that she didn't want it. I didn't hear anything about any physical evidence (sperm, injuries, etc).

Text messages didn't back up her story; friends' testimony didn't back up his.

It seems like they are about even, which means there is reasonable doubt on the rape charges. They found him guilty on the charges for which there was direct evidence, as far as i can tell.

So I think they did a pretty good job, and it looks like both sides are claiming a victory of some sort.

markpkessinger

(8,399 posts)
10. According to the NY Times . . .
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

. . . the jury rejected his claim that they didn't have sex. The question arose over whether or not it was consensual:

And after several hours of deliberations over two days, the jury appeared to reject Mr. Labrie’s insistence that he did not penetrate the girl in any way, but found that the state had not proved that what happened was against the girl’s expressed wishes.

The nine men and three women rejected the more serious accusations of aggravated sexual assault but convicted Mr. Labrie of three misdemeanors related to the girl’s age and involving penetration with his penis, mouth and finger.


See http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/29/us/st-pauls-school-rape-trial-owen-labrie.html

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
11. That makes sense to me.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:05 PM
Aug 2015

Any jury would have a tough time believing that the young man stopped in the middle of a sexual interlude, for some vague reason that did not involve the girl saying no.

The real question they had to grapple with, was if he had intercourse with her while knowing it was against her will.

markpkessinger

(8,399 posts)
12. I found this paragraph from the Times article to be rather disturbing . . .
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:33 PM
Aug 2015
But missing from the trial, experts said, was a broad discussion about the meaning of consent. The jury did not hear testimony about the definition of consent or about how rape victims, especially those suffering from rape trauma syndrome, typically behave: a government witness prepared to speak on those matters was stricken from the list after a motion by the defense.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
13. That could have been a game changer if it explained her rather odd behavior afterwards.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:46 PM
Aug 2015

I wonder what the argument was to have it stricken.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
9. Another one for the Affluenza diaries.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:38 PM
Aug 2015

By next year, there'll be enough material in those for another Hollywood series.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
17. I'm glad too - although absent his social status, this would have almost certainly been a felony.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:31 AM
Aug 2015

From the article:

The 159-year-old boarding school has long been a training ground for politicians, Nobel laureates, corporate executives and other members of the country’s elite. Alumni include Secretary of State John Kerry. Students pay $53,810 a year in tuition, room and board.


Please don't misunderstand. If I had means like those, I'd want to spend $53,810 a year in my kid's education too; it's a tough world, and if I could give my kid that kind of edge I certainly would (luckily I have none). But it shouldn't make the difference between a felony rape conviction, and a wrist-slap misdemeanor.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. St. Paul's, Andover, Choate, in fact all the elite prep schools have large numbers
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:06 PM
Aug 2015

of full ride scholarships. The all have endowments that put most colleges to shame.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
18. I think the vibe of the school is rape culture
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:14 AM
Aug 2015

a problem that doesn't go away till people get educated about what rape is about .The status quo in these preppy schools and collages remains repukian .

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