Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:26 PM Aug 2015

Black Lives Matter Boos Washington Mayor's Anti-Crime Plans

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Aug 27, 2015, 2:22 PM ET
By BEN NUCKOLS Associated Press
Associated Press

The boos began as soon as Washington's mayor said she was putting more police officers on the streets in neighborhoods affected by violent crime. They didn't let up for the next 18 minutes as Democrat Muriel Bowser laid out her plans to address an increase in homicides in the nation's capital.

Bowser was repeatedly heckled and interrupted by a few dozen protesters affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement during her address Thursday inside the sweltering gymnasium of a long-shuttered school in southeast Washington.

Shouting "Jobs, not jails!" and "More police is not the answer!," the protesters accused the mayor of failing to address the root causes of violence and advocating for policies that would do more harm than good.

Bowser, who is black, said she wanted "to make 'Black Lives Matter' more than just a hashtag.'" The hecklers said they didn't believe her.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/black-lives-matter-boos-washington-mayors-anti-crime-33361802

29 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Black Lives Matter Boos Washington Mayor's Anti-Crime Plans (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2015 OP
AS I and others have known, and this AGAIN proves, BLM has no target other than ALL randys1 Aug 2015 #1
...but all the "targets" you mention are Democrats. SoapBox Aug 2015 #3
Nope, wrong. Do some research, please randys1 Aug 2015 #4
Help out with what I'm supposed to "research"... SoapBox Aug 2015 #6
REsearch wht BLM is doing with other than Dems, please randys1 Aug 2015 #7
It was a local action Chitown Kev Aug 2015 #18
What should we do for them? Darb Aug 2015 #11
They are not afraid to heckle anyone, they are protesting all politicians and both parties randys1 Aug 2015 #16
Because BLM has been showing thier ass romanic Aug 2015 #20
thank god for the ignore button randys1 Aug 2015 #23
And im supposed to be bothered? romanic Aug 2015 #27
+1000 blackspade Aug 2015 #12
the status quo will not stand...are you ready for the alternative Supersedeas Aug 2015 #29
If the police dealt with violent crimes jwirr Aug 2015 #2
On the other hand, be a bank$ter that donates heavily to the Democrats and Republicans you jtuck004 Aug 2015 #5
Many police departments are funded by the tickets they write and the arrests they make. 4lbs Aug 2015 #8
No matter WHAT the dog does or doesnt do, they say "he alerted on the vehicle". nt 7962 Aug 2015 #14
I don't think either side is wrong here. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #9
Being anti-police violence is important but so small XemaSab Aug 2015 #21
blm protestors should provide more jobs and hire people - if that's what they really want instead of msongs Aug 2015 #10
Fine. then do the opposite and pull all the cops OUT of those areas. 7962 Aug 2015 #13
More police presence certainly pacified the McKinney, TX pool party. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #24
Proven by recent uneeded actions disrupting various events; 7962 Aug 2015 #28
Please.. Putting more Cops on the streets is a good idea. busterbrown Aug 2015 #15
Good! countryjake Aug 2015 #17
I get what BLM is going for romanic Aug 2015 #19
Ask the residents KinMd Aug 2015 #22
actually I agree with BLM on this issue but not their methods wordpix Aug 2015 #25
I thought talking economic issues was verboten. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #26

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. AS I and others have known, and this AGAIN proves, BLM has no target other than ALL
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:29 PM
Aug 2015

politicians and policies that are not part of the solution.

Whether that is a Bernie Sanders not responding completely enough, or Hillary not admitting her and her husbands past misdeeds, etc.

America WILL stop killing Black people or there will be chaos.

So BLM is doing a GREAT community service ESPECIALLY for white people, when you think about it.

They are forcing us to come to grips with the reality that the current situation will not stand, WILL not.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
3. ...but all the "targets" you mention are Democrats.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:37 PM
Aug 2015

Pukes control the senate.

Pukes control the House.

And there is even an African American in the White House.

When will they go after them?

(If I'm misunderstanding your point, please let me know...I'm not trying to be hostile but I personally don't like their methods)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
6. Help out with what I'm supposed to "research"...
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:42 PM
Aug 2015

And please read my edit...

BTW...does BLM VOTE? Does BLM work to get POC registered and to get them to the polls?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. REsearch wht BLM is doing with other than Dems, please
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:46 PM
Aug 2015

And are you saying that unless BLM does what YOU want them to do then they are somehow less credible?


I am assuming you are a POC, what do your relatives say about your opinion on BLM?

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
18. It was a local action
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:16 PM
Aug 2015

based on local issues; the primary ones mentioned at the link are policing and gentrification (or "negro removal" to use the nomenclature of The New Deal).

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
11. What should we do for them?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 03:23 PM
Aug 2015

And then consider that the people that they are heckling will try to do it, and the people that they are afraid to heckle will block any effort.

They are hurting their own cause more than you can imagine. I now live around DC, it is pathetic the amount of killings. Pathetic. I don't know what to do about it. What do you suggest, shout down Democrats?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
16. They are not afraid to heckle anyone, they are protesting all politicians and both parties
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

why is everyone here so dramatically misinformed when it comes to BLM?

romanic

(2,841 posts)
27. And im supposed to be bothered?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:17 PM
Aug 2015

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

Nope but it'll save us a lot of grief in the future.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. If the police dealt with violent crimes
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:33 PM
Aug 2015

it would be one thing. But what we see as reality is that it is petty crimes that they spend their time on. Have a tail light out - beware. Some friend wants to buy a couple of cigs - beware. Fail to meet the cops eyes - beware. Go to a swimming party you have been invited to - beware. Jaywalking - beware.

First they put more cops on the streets and then they give them quotas to keep and well you know the rest.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. On the other hand, be a bank$ter that donates heavily to the Democrats and Republicans you
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:42 PM
Aug 2015

can steal trillions of dollars and the administration will leave 100 million people in poverty or near poverty just to prop up your wealth.

Then you can sit around and talk about how racism is so, so hard on people's lives.

The details are in Timothy "Killer" Geithner's book Stress Test, and voters laugh at his face over the plan, here

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
8. Many police departments are funded by the tickets they write and the arrests they make.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:55 PM
Aug 2015

If you get pulled over for something innocuous like a broken tail light, or forgetting to signal when turning (even when no other car is around), the police officer tries to use that as a stepping stone for greater charges.

I guess the Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) are trained to do this.


LEO: "I pulled you over because you failed to signal when turning. Can I see your license, registration, and proof of insurance please?"

then...

LEO: "I smell the odor of (marijuana, alcohol, or something weird)."

You: "I don't smell anything officer."

LEO: "You seem a little nervous. Please step out of the car, walk to my vehicle, and put your hands behind your back."

You follow the officer's instructions. Then....

LEO: "I am putting you in handcuffs. You aren't under arrest... yet. This is just for my protection and yours."

Yeah, right, how is it for YOUR protection if YOU are in handcuffs? I actually heard that statement above on an episode of COPS where a LEO said that to a motorist he pulled over.

LEO: "Do you have any drugs, weapons or anything illegal in the car?"

You: "No sir."

LEO: "Do you give me consent to search your vehicle?"

You: "No sir."

LEO: "Ok wait here. Go ahead and have a seat in the back of my unit."

LEO calls dispatch and asks for a K-9 unit and a drug sniffing dog. Once it arrives it sniffs around the outside of the car, but the officer makes sure the car doors are open, so that any internal odors can be released outside.

If the dog sniffs anything weird, it barks and goes crazy. At that point,

LEO: "Our K-9 unit has detected a suspicious odor emanating from your vehicle. This gives us probable cause to search your vehicle."

At which point, they'll do a very thorough search. You are handcuffed, and sitting in the back of a police car. They already are 80% where they need to be....


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. I don't think either side is wrong here.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 03:04 PM
Aug 2015

BLM is anti-police violence, that's their agenda and they have every right to push it.

But, you can look at Baltimore and see what happens when cops decide to disappear themselves from violent neighborhoods--it's a green light for more killings.

As we can see from this story, (some white people will find this shocking) black folks disagree with each other on these issues from time to time.



XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
21. Being anti-police violence is important but so small
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:44 PM
Aug 2015

The system fails black people, especially black men, at every level.

Did you know that 43% of black boys in New York fail to graduate high school?

That's such a high number that you have to figure that it's not a bug, it's a feature.

msongs

(67,406 posts)
10. blm protestors should provide more jobs and hire people - if that's what they really want instead of
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

expecting other people to do those things. be the change you want to see and all that

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
13. Fine. then do the opposite and pull all the cops OUT of those areas.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 03:43 PM
Aug 2015

Lets see how well THAT "tactic" works. The mayor is trying to put forth some solutions, but gets booed for it. idiots.
MAybe they'll like it better with NO cops in their neighborhoods. We always hear that the "rich" neighborhoods get the most security, so why bitch about getting more to the poor areas? Because they're grandstanders.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. More police presence certainly pacified the McKinney, TX pool party.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:34 PM
Aug 2015

More police presence certainly pacified the McKinney, TX pool party.

"Because they're grandstanders..." Creative allegation wholly predicated on a dramatic lack of relevant knowledge re: BLM.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
28. Proven by recent uneeded actions disrupting various events;
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:47 PM
Aug 2015

winning them ZERO new supporters.
McKinney texas? How many people were killed there? None. Poor example.
How about Baltimore since the killing of Freddie Gray? Murders through the roof.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
15. Please.. Putting more Cops on the streets is a good idea.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 03:59 PM
Aug 2015

The freaking problem is that the majority of cops who are put on the street have no idea of what restraint means..

Poverty breeds crime.. What we need are cops who are specifically trained in appropriate restraint and aggressiveness.

In order for this to happen, a whole new type of Human Relation hiring policies must be reevaluated.. I think future cop applicants need to have a college degree as well as the physical abilities to pass all training tests. We need more smart cops on the streets. There are probably many who are currently serving in these ares.. We need to add to their ranks..

romanic

(2,841 posts)
19. I get what BLM is going for
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:54 PM
Aug 2015

But someone needs to explain to them that more police presence = less crime = more confidence in business for owners = jobs! Also I wish they would somebody speak instead of hollering and stomping their feet when they don't get they're way. Listen first then protest.

The problem isn't more police imo, it's more police that will actually focus on tackling violent crime vs tackling a black man on the street for jaywalking. I would also may sure to have more black officers patrolling black neighborhoods to encourage a "policing of our own" mentality.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
25. actually I agree with BLM on this issue but not their methods
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

when an elected official speaks and that is the agenda, BLM should wait its turn and make its points after the speech, or hold its own news conference or event. This shouting and not letting pols speak is just bad manners and turns people against what BLM has to say, which IMO here is correct. But people will not listen to the message if the method to get it across is loud shouting over the invited speaker. Muriel is elected by the people of DC. BLM has valid points to make but shouting/disrupting is not the way.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
26. I thought talking economic issues was verboten.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:00 PM
Aug 2015

>>>"Jobs, not jails!">>>>

Tough crowd.

Pretty hard to please.

In fact, *impossible* to please.

Maybe if they can figure out what they're talking about......?

You know: Politics is the art of the possible.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Black Lives Matter Boos W...