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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:08 AM Aug 2015

Biden More Competitive Than Clinton Against Leading Republicans: Poll

Source: Bloomberg

Here's one more reason to continue speculating about whether Vice President Joe Biden will enter the presidential race: he polls better nationally against the leading three Republican candidates than Hillary Clinton, and has a higher favorability rating, too.

According to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday, if Biden was the democratic candidate, he would beat Donald Trump by eight points (48 - 40 percent), former Florida Governor Jeb Bush by six points (45 - 39) and Senator Marco Rubio by three points (44 - 41). Clinton only beats Trump by four points (45 - 41), Bush by two points (42 - 40) and Rubio by one point (44 - 43).

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-27/biden-more-competitive-than-clinton-against-leading-republicans-poll

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Biden More Competitive Than Clinton Against Leading Republicans: Poll (Original Post) LiberalElite Aug 2015 OP
Ridiculous. Biden hasn't declared his candidacy and hence hasn't had his negatives driven up by Chakab Aug 2015 #1
Maybe if she hadn't ineptly bungled the response to the emil story Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #17
Yes. Tom28 Aug 2015 #22
Intelligent. Jumping into the race early gets your negatives driven up. L. Coyote Aug 2015 #27
Biden is our dark horse candidate randr Aug 2015 #2
He is insurance. Tom28 Aug 2015 #25
Yes, and welcome to DU, Tom28. JudyM Aug 2015 #33
betcha those numbers go up with Liz Warren as veep :) big_dog Aug 2015 #3
I'd hafta think about that one...tho Sanders/Warren sounds even better! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #9
Yea liberalmike27 Aug 2015 #21
Where's the Like button? L. Coyote Aug 2015 #28
Since you didn't mention it--Biden is also more competitive than Bernie WI_DEM Aug 2015 #4
Biden, after 8 years as VP is more known than Bernie at this moment LiberalElite Aug 2015 #5
Sorry, but if you are going to post an article with polls WI_DEM Aug 2015 #7
Bernie is doing surprisingly well for a guy who is not very well known. Tom28 Aug 2015 #32
Oh Please....... INdemo Aug 2015 #6
or maybe Biden wants to run Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #18
Yes he could actually want this INdemo Aug 2015 #35
No liberalmike27 Aug 2015 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #8
For the last month or more, Sanders has gotten MORE exposure than either, maybe both combined. George II Aug 2015 #14
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I think our illustrious media is demonstrating some sexist tendencies still_one Aug 2015 #10
/\ This /\ The Stranger Aug 2015 #12
by polling potential candidates? Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #19
So they're both potential winners. Metric System Aug 2015 #11
This coming from a Sanders supporter, I see it as another attempt to drag down Clinton. George II Aug 2015 #13
Run, Joe run! Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #15
Here's something interesting from that poll: George II Aug 2015 #16
It's a Go bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #24
Only because he has not declared oldandhappy Aug 2015 #26
Clinton was fantastically popular before she announced her candidacy nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #29
The Secretary of State position is largely seen as apolitical. Metric System Aug 2015 #30
Biden's gottan a lot of very (appropriately) sympathetic press as of late. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #31
She was fantastically popular until the email train wreck Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #34
not really much of a way to combat the drip drip drip geek tragedy Aug 2015 #36
If she can't poll any better than that old snore bread_and_roses Aug 2015 #37
Of course bluestateguy Aug 2015 #38
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Chakab

(1,727 posts)
1. Ridiculous. Biden hasn't declared his candidacy and hence hasn't had his negatives driven up by
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:12 AM
Aug 2015

incessant attacks.

I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the media's attempt to manufacture some sort of establishment threat to her is laughable.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
17. Maybe if she hadn't ineptly bungled the response to the emil story
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:22 AM
Aug 2015

and made herself look like she's hiding something, the issue would have gone away.

Her campaign is a train wreck and in need of total reorganization.

Where are the surrogates and the legendary Clinton rapid response ability.

They all seem to be asleep at the switch on this.

 

Tom28

(34 posts)
22. Yes.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:38 AM
Aug 2015

Hillary's campaign "needs improvement." She has the smartest political talent in the world, but they don't seem to be handling this right. Then again, I'm not sure how it could be handled.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
27. Intelligent. Jumping into the race early gets your negatives driven up.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:18 AM
Aug 2015

It was really smart of Biden to have Hillary go out there and take all the early heat. She's a great team player.

randr

(12,412 posts)
2. Biden is our dark horse candidate
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:21 AM
Aug 2015

An Ace up the sleeve so to speak.
The Democratic Convention will be an event to remember. Bernie and Hillary coming in with both barrels loaded. Progressive ideas will rule the slate and an undecided room of delegates will welcome the appearance of Biden to settle and unite the party.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
21. Yea
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:34 AM
Aug 2015

Sanders wins against those candidates too--and totally agree, Sanders/Warren, much, much better fit.

Plus Biden entering the race would compete with Hillary, and make it more likely Sanders would win more primaries. So yea, go for it Biden!! #FeeltheBern

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
4. Since you didn't mention it--Biden is also more competitive than Bernie
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:26 AM
Aug 2015

Matchups among all American voters show:



Biden tops Trump 48 - 40 percent. He beats Bush 45 - 39 percent and gets 44 percent to Rubio's 41 percent.
Clinton edges Trump 45 - 41 percent. She gets 42 percent to Bush's 40 percent and gets 44 percent to Rubio's 43 percent.
Sanders edges Trump 44 - 41 percent and edges Bush 43 - 39 percent. Rubio gets 41 percent to Sanders' 40 percent.



If Trump runs as a third party candidate, Clinton gets 40 percent, with 24 percent each for Bush and Trump.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
5. Biden, after 8 years as VP is more known than Bernie at this moment
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:41 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie has lots of time for people to get acquainted with him and then miracle-of-miracles (sarcasm) when people get to know Bernie they like him A LOT. Thanks for your concern though.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
7. Sorry, but if you are going to post an article with polls
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:50 AM
Aug 2015

It is fair to include all the candidates if they are polled and that includes Bernie. Then when you post another poll by the same organization down the road and Bernie is leading the republicans by more than Hillary or Biden you can point to a surge. By omitting him it makes it look like you don't want people to know how he is doing--at this time. After all Bernie is a declared candidate and Biden isn't.

 

Tom28

(34 posts)
32. Bernie is doing surprisingly well for a guy who is not very well known.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:14 PM
Aug 2015

He just needs more exposure.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
6. Oh Please.......
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:44 AM
Aug 2015

Is Debbie Wasserman Schultz behind this?
Could be... because her narrow minded thinking might be if Biden enters the race and runs to the left then it could slow the Sanders momentum, which seems to be a desperate ploy

I don't believe these polling results..period. Not this soon
But what the hell my dog Marley could poll higher than any of these Rrepuke Candidates. Really

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
35. Yes he could actually want this
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:30 PM
Aug 2015

however it means the money train might just change routes. I think its a DNC tactic to slow Bernie's momentum. Like I said if Biden a centralist runs to the left it could hurt Bernie it certainly will appear phony.

Hillary's fundraising will take a hit too.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
23. No
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:42 AM
Aug 2015

Biden running would hamper Hillary, far more than Sanders. At least that's my thinking.

We Sanders' supporters are far more loyal. Plus Biden is much more closely aligned with Clinton, remembering they've both had a (D) by their names. IF it's such a big deal with Bernie, it certainly is with them.

I've seen a lot of little editorial cartoons showing Hillary being irritated by the fact he's running. So even they think it's going to hurt her.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. This coming from a Sanders supporter, I see it as another attempt to drag down Clinton.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:17 AM
Aug 2015

As a Sanders supporter, why not talk about how Sanders stacks up against leading republicans?

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Here's something interesting from that poll:
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:21 AM
Aug 2015
"Eighty-three percent of Democrats view Biden favorably, compared to 76 percent and 54 percent who approve of Clinton and Vermont Senator Sanders, respectively.

Among all registered voters, Biden has a 48 percent favorability rating, while Clinton came in at 39 percent and Sanders at 32 percent."

bucolic_frolic

(43,168 posts)
24. It's a Go
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:47 AM
Aug 2015

Democrats are stronger with more voices

They're fending off the Imperialist Gang of 17

Joe Biden's known for gaffes and never really articulated
a lot as a national candidate, this is his chance

With thin ranks in the governor and state houses and many
Senate retirees, and House ranks quiet

Democrats are lucky they have a stable of former Presidents,
Veeps, progressive stars or great stature

The GOP can only rally Fundamentalists, their Bushes are worth
little on the campaign trail, and less to black and hispanic voters

Obama has rebuilt the Big Tent

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
31. Biden's gottan a lot of very (appropriately) sympathetic press as of late.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:59 AM
Aug 2015

That goes away the instant he declares and people view him as the same candidate who ended his campaign the night of the Iowa caucuses in 2008.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
34. She was fantastically popular until the email train wreck
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

Her team's clusterfuck handling of the fallout has done more damage than the "scandal" itself

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. not really much of a way to combat the drip drip drip
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:53 PM
Aug 2015

nothing she could have done ex post to deal with the headlines about investigations re: classified info, etc.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
38. Of course
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:24 PM
Aug 2015

Because he's not out there campaigning, not being attacked daily by Republicans and not taking the media's crap every day. So of course his numbers are high.

That all changes the day he should decide to run.

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