Clinton issues call to action on guns after Va. slayings

[riversedge]

Source: the hill.com




August 26, 2015, 12:35 pm
Clinton issues call to action on guns after Va. slayings

By Jesse Byrnes



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Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton on Wednesday called for action to end gun violence in the wake of a shooting that left two journalists dead in Virginia.

Clinton tweeted:


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Heartbroken and angry. We must act to stop gun violence, and we cannot wait any longer. Praying for the victims' families in Virginia. -H


Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, a fellow Democratic candidate, tweeted that the shooting was "senseless" and said his thoughts were with the local TV station.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252001-clinton-issues-call-to-action-on-guns-after-va-slayings

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Our 'leaders' in congress would prefer to put their heads in the sand.


Thank you Hillary

[riversedge]

1. Here is a short video-->Hillary speaking from IOWA about the shootings and gun violence

It seems she is speaking unscripted--sincere.




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"We have got to do something about gun violence in America."
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Hillary for Iowa ?@HillaryforIA 3h3 hours ago

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[Doctor_J]

2. anything more specific than "we must do something"?

[Snow Leopard]

43. yeah, no kidding

political opportunism at its finest. Set an example, tell your security detail not to carry.

[former9thward]

3. How does Clinton plan to stop "gun violence"?

As usual with Clinton she offers no specifics. What specific action does she propose that would have prevented the Virginia shooting?

[riversedge]

5. listen to her short video. she gave a few clues. This was unexpected

as you know. This horrible shooting just happened today.

[Gloria]

8. As usual, another jackass comment by someone

who is expecting Clinton to be 100X BETTER than the other people in the race!

I guess that's what it comes down to...a prejudicial standard from the "progressives" who sound as rigid as the right wing ...

Screw this crap!

[former9thward]

10. Clinaton loves to make general non-specific comments.

That way others project their own views on her and they think she is going to do what they want. I would like someone who favors "gun control" to say what specific law would have prevented the Virginia shooting.

[Gloria]

14. Name one other law which does the job 100%...

False standard.
Checking people's background for past violence or mental health issues before getting a gun makes sense...

[former9thward]

15. Clinton has not said that.

You are projecting. Did the Virginia shooter have issues that were documented?

[riversedge]

22. She is an advocate for stronger background checks for one thing. Listen

to her comments.

[former9thward]

31. The Virginia shooter bought his gun legally.

He went through background checks.

[LanternWaste]

36. Moving the goalposts...

Moving the goalposts...

[former9thward]

39. LOL

I asked what specific law would have prevented the Virginia shooting. The poster says "background check" He went through a background check. And then you say that is moving goalposts. Yeah, I have noticed bringing facts to a discussion will get that response from you.

[TeddyR]

4. Yeah

I too would like to see some specifics and not a bunch of platitudes. "Stop gun violence" and "fight the NRA" aren't particularly informative.

[riversedge]

7. Would you expect Bernie Sanders -or any of the candidates to give specifics

when they are just commenting on a horrible shooting that just happened??

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

18. Yes, because he didn't just make up his opinions today.

[riversedge]

19. You make no sense. Tell me what you mean by your comment

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

25. Bernie actually thinks about these things - he has opinions on what needs to be done.

All Hillary can say is "we should do something". Kind of hard to argue with such a non-specific statement. That's what she depends on. Never let them see you sweat!

[riversedge]

33. catch up with the news and listen to her speeches from yesterday and today

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

41. No thanks, I won't waste my time. I won't vote for another corporatists/bankster.

[riversedge]

42. If you will be lazy and not read her speeches -then at least stop misrepresenting her

record by saying she has none. It would be the honorable thing to do. Bernie would not appreciate your comments either. He does not diss on Hillary.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

44. No he doesn't diss Hillary. And I'm not running for President.

I would be happy to oblige you if you had posted a link of what you're referring to. I'm just not going to search around with the blind hope of finding what you want me to see/read. But, yeah, if you have a video link, I'd love to watch it.

[madokie]

6. Thank you Hillary

[HereSince1628]

9. At least be honest, we want control of what people can have guns.

Controlling guns is a euphemism that eliminates the people we really fear.

What we -must- admit is w want to control who can have guns but that identifying who should be kept from guns isn't simple.

It all seems quite easy post hoc; our vision looking back always seems to be 20/20.

But it's not nearly so easy prospectively. And security always comes at the cost of someone's liberty.

Sometimes the cost of liberty includes unjustified discrimination.

How do we avoid that while protecting others?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

20. You're right - we have a sick society, getting sicker by the minute thanks to RWNJ's

The RW fans the flames of hatred toward just about everyone except white republicans. The RW media acts as a concentrator and tells the RWNJs WHO is "the problem" and who to thus HATE.

People of all walks of like are under more pressure today than ever before in their lifetimes, and some people are not emotionally or intellectually capable of handling a society with so many lies and so much hatred. None of us are, but some people snap....

A background check is not going to tell you that someone is about to snap, especially if he/she has never seen a doctor about any mental issues.

The only real lasting solution is to bring our society back to logic, and reason. In order to do that, SOMETHING needs to be done about the loudest haters with the longest reach - FAUX News.

[HereSince1628]

34. What constitutes mental illness? The APA rejected Embitterment as an illness.

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And even if there were a diagnosis which dealt with disgruntled employees that 'go Postal', most Americans don't seek treatment for mental illness unless it is a disorder that significantly disrupts their daily activities.

People who go postal are generally pretty high functioning...until they go postal.

If we had universal health care that included mental health, and if Americans didn't avoid mental health care-because a mental illness label REALLY can ruin a persons life-we might actually move toward a system where an employer and their HR could help an employee get to treatment.

As it is 80% of persons with mental illness in the US do not seek help.

So, psychology has short-comings, healthcare funding has short-comings, and Americans come up short in help seeking for mental disorders

YET, pretty much everyone desires to make a mass-killer look 'not like me', including people with mental disorders and people who advocate for the mentally disordered.

America has a -cultural- problem with violence. IMO, it is absolutely no accident that the nation with the greatest problem with gun deaths is also the nation whose police shoot the most citizens and the nation with the largest military in the world.

These things are not independent.

They all are rooted in the way Americans learn to deal with adversity at a personal, social, and international levels. THAT is not a gun problem. THAT is not a mental illness problem.

THAT is a problem with the way Americans ARE.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

40. We all have mental illness. If you are "well-adjusted" you may be sicker than most.

You can't live long in a society like ours (there are no others) and not have your mind a bit twisted by the unending effects of the society, and the high-wire act of trying be a constructive part of it.

You are very well informed. You hit on the fact that because of stigma most people won't get help unless it affects their livelihood, or their very lives. To sum it all up, it's going to be hard to isolate these people before they exit reality. That's why I think you need to fix the society itself. Thanks to right-wing media whores, that will be difficult as well.

THAT is a problem with the way America IS.

[YOHABLO]

11. Prayers aren't gonna get it. Hillary Clinton is not going to stop this madness. Is all rhetoric.

This is just what a Presidential candidate is expected to say. And like fools we sit here and say ''yeah, yeah, yeah''.
Not one candidate on either side has said how they would put an end to this killing madness by police, and mentally crazed citizens. I hope someone during these so-called debates sticks it to them on this issue. What's the plan?

[awoke_in_2003]

12. If Sandy Hook didn't wake this country up...

nothing will. Violence is an innate trait in our society- it's in our DNA.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Prior to that it was the Columbine Massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

The Columbine High School massacre was a school shooting that occurred on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School in Columbine, Colorado,[2][3] an unincorporated area of Jefferson County in the state of Colorado. In addition to the shootings, the complex and highly planned attack involved a fire bomb to divert firefighters, propane tanks converted to bombs placed in the cafeteria, 99 explosive devices, and bombs rigged in cars. The perpetrators, two senior students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, murdered a total of 12 students and one teacher. They injured 21 additional people, with three others being injured while attempting to escape the school. The pair then committed suicide.[4][5]

[awoke_in_2003]

32. True...

I guess Sandy Hook just hit me harder. I had (at the time) grandkids in elementary school.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

16. Now that 2 white people are killed-"We must act to stop gun violence, and we cannot wait any longer"

[oberliner]

17. Hillary Clinton Calls for Action on Guns After Charleston Shooting

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton challenged the nation Thursday to take new actions to curb gun violence in her first reactions to the shooting inside a historically black Charleston, S.C., church that left nine dead.

“How many people do we need to see cut down before we act?” she asked, during a summit of elected and appointed Latino politicians meeting in Las Vegas.

http://time.com/3927143/charleston-church-shooting-hillary-clinton/

Guess you were out of town that week.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

23. When has she said "we can't wait any longer"??

ONLY after 2 white people were killed by a black man. Sorry if you don't like my comment. I notice these things...

[oberliner]

26. "How many people do we need to see cut down before we act?"

"How many innocent people in our country, from little children, to church members, to movie theater attendees, how many people do we need to see cut down before we act?" said Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner for the 2016 presidential nomination, at an unrelated event in Las Vegas.

"In order to make sense of it, we have to be honest. We have to face hard truths about race, violence, guns and division," she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/politics/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-charleston-gun-reform/

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

27. I didn't think so.

[oberliner]

28. You see a distinction between these two statements?

"We can't wait any longer" and "How many people do we see cut down before we act?"

They seem to be expressing the same sentiment - you disagree?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

29. One is just a question, one is a definitive statement.

This is a bit nitpicky, so let's move on. I had a small point to make, but the more it gets talked about the bigger it gets and that was not my intention.

[oberliner]

30. Fair enough

Let's hope we actually do see some more aggressive action on gun control finally - I think on that we can certainly agree.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

45. Absolutely!

[riversedge]

38. She keeps pounding the message wherever she goes.

[FLPanhandle]

21. Stupid but predictable comment

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

24. As long as we agree that the comment was stupid, but I am a friggin genius!

[riversedge]

35. More from Hillary....

Wednesday, August 26, 2015



Wednesday, August 26, 2015
Hillary Clinton, Scott Walker offer different outlooks on shooting tragedy

http://political-heat.blogspot.com/2015/08/hillary-clinton-scott-walker-offer.html

......................Less than an hour after he made the tweet above, Scott Walker took the time to troll Clinton on Twitter. What did Hillary Clinton do with the rest of her day?

She renewed her pledge from earlier in the day in a speech on the campaign trail, coming out strongly for balancing gun rights with reasonable laws that can work to prevent future tragedies.

Kind of tells you little a bit about their priorities, don’t you think?


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Here is the article that the last part of above is linked to:



http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-pedges-take-gun-violence-n416521?cid=sm_twitter_feed_politics
Hillary Clinton Pledges to Take on Gun Violence

Aug 26 2015, 3:48 pm ET

by Andrew Rafferty

Hillary Clinton said mass shootings are "stalking our country" and pledged to take on the issue of gun control Wednesday after a reporter and cameraman were fatally shot on live television in Virginia.

"We have got to do something about gun violence in America. And I will take it on," Clinton told reporters after a campaign stop in Iowa.

Clinton and many of her other 2016 presidential opponents took to Twitter to express sympathy ............But the Democratic presidential frontrunner also added that the country "cannot wait any longer" to stop gun violence.

"I want to reiterate how important it is to not let yet another terrible instance go by without trying to do something more to prevent this incredible killing that is stalking our country," Clinton said.................

"There is so much evidence that if guns were not so readily available, if we had universal background checks...maybe we could prevent this kind of carnage," Clinton., ...................


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And a tweet:

Sarah Wood ?@SarahWoodwriter 12h12 hours ago

Not Afraid To Take On The Gun Lobby, Hillary Pledges To Tackle Gun Violence (VIDEO) http://goo.gl/GjJ7gK #gunsense

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/26/not-afraid-to-take-on-the-gun-lobby-hillary-pledges-to-tackle-gun-violence-video/

[Eleanors38]

37. She knows what resulted from the last calls for gun bans/controls...

she's not going there.

The present group of controller/ban "activists" have poisoned the well for ANY kind of discussion. And those actions continue right here on DU. She knows better.

[Doctor_J]

46. so her bold, forceful pronouncement was actually

completely void of content. That's what I thought when I read the headline

[Eleanors38]

47. You can get only so close to a trapped Lynx.

[Doctor_J]

48. The op said "Clinton issues call to action". What action?