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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:26 PM Aug 2015

Ashley Madison Faces $578 Million Class Action Lawsuit

Source: Time

Two Canadian law firms filed a $578 million class-action lawsuit against the companies that run extramarital-affairs website Ashley Madison over a recent hack that exposed the personal information of about 39 million users.

Charney Lawyers and Sutts, Strosberg LLP—two Canadian law firms—filed the suit on Thursday on behalf of Canadians whose personal information was breached in a company hack. The Toronto-based Avid Dating Life and Avid Life Media, which run the company, are named in the suit.

The lawsuit’s class-action status remains to be certified by the court.

“Numerous former users of AshleyMadison.com have approached the law firms to inquire about their privacy rights under Canadian law,” the firms said in a statement. “They are outraged that AshleyMadison.com failed to protect its users’ information. In many cases, the users paid an additional fee for the website to remove all of their user data, only to discover that the information was left intact and exposed.”

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Read more: http://time.com/4007374/ashley-madison-578-million-lawsuit-canada/

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Ashley Madison Faces $578 Million Class Action Lawsuit (Original Post) bananas Aug 2015 OP
AP: Ashley Madison faces $578M Canadian class-action lawsuit bananas Aug 2015 #1
'Security Was An Afterthought,' Hacked Ashley Madison Emails Show PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #2
How many married men will join this lawsuit? Sam_Fields Aug 2015 #3
Attempted cheating. From what I read something like 90 to 95% of the sites members were men cstanleytech Aug 2015 #5
Most sites like this are mostly men, that's why they're the only ones who have to pay. PSPS Aug 2015 #13
It would probably be academic at that point anyway thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #11
The spouse would get half the settlement (eventually), in a divorce daleo Aug 2015 #17
Interesting. Who is to blame, the hackers, or the site for not providing adequate protections still_one Aug 2015 #4
The crime is the fault of the person who committed it. C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Aug 2015 #6
If someone breaks into your home and steals from you because you have poor locks... herding cats Aug 2015 #7
I think it also involves if this is considered prostitution, and is prostitution legal in the local still_one Aug 2015 #12
There is no "adequate protection". former9thward Aug 2015 #14
That is what I was thinking still_one Aug 2015 #15
If you want to cheat TeddyR Aug 2015 #8
If the contract stipulates a high expectation of security daleo Aug 2015 #18
Hey, will Josh Duggar join this lawsuit? Joe Bacon Aug 2015 #9
If Target and others get sued for stuff like this... thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #10
It's certainly becoming a tough old world... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #16
Can't help but notice chapdrum Aug 2015 #19

bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. AP: Ashley Madison faces $578M Canadian class-action lawsuit
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:28 PM
Aug 2015
http://abc7chicago.com/news/ashley-madison-faces-%24578m-class-action-lawsuit/953173/

Ashley Madison faces $578M Canadian class-action lawsuit
Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:07AM

TORONTO -- Two Canadian law firms have filed a $578 million class-action lawsuit against the companies that run Ashley Madison after a hacker group's data breach exposed some 39 million memberships in the adultery website earlier this week.

Charney Lawyers and Sutts, Strosberg LLP, both of Ontario, said Friday that they filed the lawsuit on behalf of Canadians who subscribed to Ashley Madison and whose personal information was disclosed to the public. The website, with its slogan "Life is short. Have an affair," is marketed to facilitate extramarital relationships.

The lawsuit, filed Thursday in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, targets Avid Dating Life Inc. and Avid Life Media Inc., the Toronto-based companies that run AshleyMadison.com. Its class-action status "still needs to be certified by the court," the statement says.

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Sam_Fields

(305 posts)
3. How many married men will join this lawsuit?
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:51 PM
Aug 2015

I would like to be a fly on the wall when a husband tried to explain to his wife why he joined a lawsuit that outed him for cheating.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
5. Attempted cheating. From what I read something like 90 to 95% of the sites members were men
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:57 PM
Aug 2015

so how many of them managed to use the site to cheat is probably pretty low.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
13. Most sites like this are mostly men, that's why they're the only ones who have to pay.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:05 AM
Aug 2015

AM doesn't charge women anything to use the service, most of whom are prostitutes. Men buy "credits" to use the site -- between $50 and $350. And, with their "affair guarantee," AM is just an online pimp.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
11. It would probably be academic at that point anyway
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:19 PM
Aug 2015

Whatever the wife is going to do at that point, she's already in the process of doing. This would probably be for those who get exposed and have to deal with the shitstorm that follows and want to take their frustrations out on someone else.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
17. The spouse would get half the settlement (eventually), in a divorce
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:05 PM
Aug 2015

So, if things have gone that far, both partners would want a piece of the legal action.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
4. Interesting. Who is to blame, the hackers, or the site for not providing adequate protections
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:57 PM
Aug 2015

I don't think this is that straight forward

What has been occurring when sites like Target and other stores or even the social security administration are hacked. Is it the fault of the site, the hacker, or both

C_eh_N_eh_D_eh

(2,204 posts)
6. The crime is the fault of the person who committed it.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:12 PM
Aug 2015

But if the victim wasn't taking responsible measures to protect their clients' information in the first place, then they're liable for that. The specifics depends on what their terms and conditions of service say.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
7. If someone breaks into your home and steals from you because you have poor locks...
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:23 PM
Aug 2015

Is it your fault, or the fault of the burglar? That part is easy to understand.

The biggest questions here is were there adequate "locks" provided by this company to keep your personal information safe within a reasonable doubt? Also, was data harvested after clients paid extra to have it removed?

still_one

(92,204 posts)
12. I think it also involves if this is considered prostitution, and is prostitution legal in the local
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:19 PM
Aug 2015

where they solicited this service?

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
14. There is no "adequate protection".
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:20 AM
Aug 2015

The IRS has been hacked. The U.S. government personnel site has been hacked. Anything can be hacked.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
8. If you want to cheat
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:42 PM
Aug 2015

Then don't sue the website that facilitated your cheating. This strikes me as a lawsuit that is driven by a plaintiffs' law firm.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
18. If the contract stipulates a high expectation of security
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

Then, they are in breach of contract.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
10. If Target and others get sued for stuff like this...
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:17 PM
Aug 2015

...then you knew that a lawsuit over this drama was inevitable. The lawsuit has to deal with making a reasonable effort to maintain security of highly private data, and it seems fairly clear that AM had trouble in this regard. I think the lawsuits have a legitimate basis and AM will probably end up having to declare bankruptcy.

They can try and rebuild her, but I seriously doubt it'll ever be what it used to be. I think that this hacking will forever be seared into the consciousness of everyone who's even remotely entertaining the idea of two-timing. I just wonder what effect this will have on other sites like, say, Adult Friendfinder or that sort of thing. Basically a legit hookup site but most people wouldn't want their true identity and saucy emails leaked to the public.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. It's certainly becoming a tough old world...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

It's certainly becoming a tough old world for those poor, put-upon little fellas who want to cheat on their spouses.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
19. Can't help but notice
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:43 PM
Aug 2015

that the site has about 38,000,000 users/clients. These could be just hits, or in fact actual clients.
And monogamy within marriage is enforced by adultery laws.
That's a heck of a lot of folk who evidently find monogamy less than salubrious.

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