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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:50 PM Aug 2015

Harry Reid endorses Iran deal, giving boost to Obama’s supporters

Last edited Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid gave a forceful endorsement Sunday to the nuclear deal with Iran, a key boost that provides continued momentum for preventing Congress from blocking President Obama’s pact.

The Nevada Democrat said the deal, which lifts economic sanctions against the rogue nation for pledges to limit its nuclear program, is the “best way” to curtail Iran’s military ambitions, and he pledged to round up more support to thwart its opponents.

“I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure the deal stands,” he said in a telephone interview with The Washington Post from his home in Henderson, Nev., where he has been calling friends to tell them of his decision.

The retiring Democratic leader becomes the 27th Senate Democrat to publicly endorse the plan, while just two — including Reid’s friend and likely successor, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) — have come out against it.


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/harry-reid-endorses-iran-deal-giving-boost-to-obamas-supporters/2015/08/23/8fb89a40-49c0-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html



Sen. Harry Reid
I strongly support the historic agreement with Iran and will do everything in my power to ensure that it stands.
https://twitter.com/SenatorReid/status/635537098968313857

Sam Stein
Reid’s office confirms he will be whipping support for the Iran deal in the coming days/weeks
https://twitter.com/samsteinhp



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Harry Reid endorses Iran deal, giving boost to Obama’s supporters (Original Post) cal04 Aug 2015 OP
Good Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #1
House is locked down and the fascists are now struggling to get 60 in the Senate. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #2
AIPAC has the House of Reps Wellstone ruled Aug 2015 #3
Pelosi said they had the votes in the House to prevent a veto over ride still_one Aug 2015 #8
Obama may not even have to veto their little resolution bluestateguy Aug 2015 #4
The Republicans will be crushed when that happens...more crushing to come. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #15
That's "57Y" who want war, who always want war. Huddie94 Aug 2015 #32
Good on Harry. zentrum Aug 2015 #5
Great news - I hope this leads to good announcements from the other Democrats karynnj Aug 2015 #6
I've emailed and called my Democratic Senator, Benett, several times mountain grammy Aug 2015 #7
What most people don't realize..... markj757 Aug 2015 #9
Fully agree. But we are winning on this but haven't won yet. Public polling opposes the deal Tom Rinaldo Aug 2015 #19
Exactly to both you and the post you responded to karynnj Aug 2015 #22
Hopefully Reid's endorsement will get Chuckie to reconsider d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #10
Actually what's even better..... markj757 Aug 2015 #11
That's incorrect right now. Tom Rinaldo Aug 2015 #17
I didn't think about that one. d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #20
The Washington Post is keeping an ongoing Whip Tally Tom Rinaldo Aug 2015 #12
Wyden is leaning No? Why? What Party does he belong to? It is not Likud, is it?? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #14
Here's the quote they have from Wyden Tom Rinaldo Aug 2015 #16
Is Wyden also an armchair nuclear physicist? Why is he voting against the constituency that elected Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #18
Rand Wyden: good on NSA, bad on Iran and TPP. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #21
Thanks for letting us know about Wyden davidpdx Aug 2015 #26
Incorrect headline. The failure of the GOP to block the Iran deal boosts the supporters of PEACE. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #13
How do we stop Iran humbled_opinion Aug 2015 #23
The point is to prevent them from developing nukes geek tragedy Aug 2015 #25
It is a nightmare humbled_opinion Aug 2015 #27
you seem awfully conversant in bullshit rightwing talking points geek tragedy Aug 2015 #28
What about the other nations who are more than ready for this to be over? Going back to the.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #30
The deal is terrible by all accounts humbled_opinion Aug 2015 #31
If your representatives are not on board, call them tomorrow!! n/t eridani Aug 2015 #24
I'm delighted about this. BlueMTexpat Aug 2015 #29

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. House is locked down and the fascists are now struggling to get 60 in the Senate.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:55 PM
Aug 2015

The opinion and weight of the entire world versus the rouge GOP and Israel can not be denied.

Loved how Britain just opened an embassy in Tehran...a big, big fuck you to the traitors of the world.

The world is with Obama.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/the-iran-debate-moves-on/399713/

Partial list:

— More than 100 former U.S. ambassadors, career and political alike, and from both parties, who signed a similar public letter endorsing the deal. It begins, “The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) with Iran stands as a landmark agreement in deterring the proliferation of nuclear weapons.”

— More than 60 American “national-security leaders”—politicians, military officers, strategists, Republicans and Democrats—who issued their own public letter urging Congress to approve the deal. E.g., “We congratulate President Obama and all the negotiators for a landmark agreement unprecedented in its importance for preventing the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran.” Here are a few Republicans who signed this letter: former Special Trade Representative Carla Hills; former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill; former Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum. Here are a few Democrats: former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright; former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell; former Defense Secretary William Perry. I’m resisting saying: But what do any of them know, compared with Mike Huckabee?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. AIPAC has the House of Reps
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:16 PM
Aug 2015

sewed up. And the Brits opened their Embassy in Iran today. Goes to show,there is no cure for the Stupid amongst the Republican Party Members. Never has our Government been so compromised by so few since the late 1800's and early 1900's.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
4. Obama may not even have to veto their little resolution
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:18 PM
Aug 2015

I suspect Joe Manchin will be the only other No vote.

That would make the vote 57Y-43N, and if the cloture votes go the same way, it won't get 60 and won't pass.

 

Huddie94

(25 posts)
32. That's "57Y" who want war, who always want war.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:39 AM
Aug 2015

And despite all the billions of budget dollars for war and millions of bribe dollars for war, there's still "43N" lined up to stop them.

That's hopeful.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. Great news - I hope this leads to good announcements from the other Democrats
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:05 PM
Aug 2015

It would be great if the resolution of disapproval could fail to even pass the Congress. Of course, the important thing is simply to be able to sustain a veto if needed.

Good For Reid!

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
7. I've emailed and called my Democratic Senator, Benett, several times
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:24 PM
Aug 2015

urging him to support the deal. He's still undecided. The GOP prick who is my other Senator answered my email with a big "fuck you."

 

markj757

(194 posts)
9. What most people don't realize.....
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:20 PM
Aug 2015

What most people don't realize about why Israel, Republicans, and Dems like Schumer don't like the Iran deal, it's not because they fear that it won't work, what they truly fear is that it will. And it will change the balance of power in the middle east for decades to come. And Israel, will simply not be able to maintain its conventional weapons qualitative military edge, regardless of the aid we continue to send them. That's why they truly fear it!!! And they know the only way to change that future now that the rest of the world is united in deal, is for the US to be in a constant state of confrontation with Iran that leads to military strikes, and their wet dream of an outcome, some type of ground war. The Prez knows it, and the world knows it, which is why this deal is one of the greatest things this Prez has done in his two terms in office. Because it will save thousands, and maybe hundreds of thousands of lives, by avoiding military confrontation with a country, that maybe on the verge of moderation, and taking its rightful place in the community of nations.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
19. Fully agree. But we are winning on this but haven't won yet. Public polling opposes the deal
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:40 PM
Aug 2015

40 million is being spend on ads against it. We have not yet locked down all the votes we will need to guarantee this deal can't be killed. Given the stakes at risk, even if the odds strongly favor Obama winning on this, we can not afford to get complacent until all the dust finally settles.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
22. Exactly to both you and the post you responded to
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 09:27 PM
Aug 2015

This really is the most important vote that any one of the people will ever cast. The IWR really did not determine if Iraq would be invaded - at worse it allows the Republicans to claim the Democrats deserve the same amount of blame.

 

markj757

(194 posts)
11. Actually what's even better.....
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

Actually what's even better is that every other Senator supports the deal, and Chuckie is left with only an indicted Senator standing next to him. That has to make a bold statement about whether he truly deserves to lead Dems in the Senate. It may not be enough to change the outcome, but its make him more vulnerable than he would be otherwise.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
17. That's incorrect right now.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:31 PM
Aug 2015

The Washington Post count has 8 Democrats undecided, one leaning No, and two only hesitantly leaning yes. We are not home free yet.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
12. The Washington Post is keeping an ongoing Whip Tally
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:10 PM
Aug 2015

Last updated on the 20th, everY Senator is included broken down by Yes, leaning Yes, No, leaning No, or Undecided - and it includes quotes from each of their current positions:

Leaning Yes but hesitant includes:
Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) & Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.)

Purely undecided is a big group at 8, including:

Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), Sen Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.),
Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.), Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.): Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.),
Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), and Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.).

LEANING NO INCLUDES Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/14/whip-count-where-the-senate-stands-on-the-iran-deal/

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
16. Here's the quote they have from Wyden
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

" I was skeptical that Iran’s leaders would agree to dismantle their nuclear weapons program and I have questions about whether this agreement accomplishes that, particularly in light of Iran’s history on this issue."

Wyden is the ONLY Democrat they list as leaning No, though some of the undecided really worry me.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
18. Is Wyden also an armchair nuclear physicist? Why is he voting against the constituency that elected
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:32 PM
Aug 2015

him and for the Party pledging it's allegiance to a foreign power and a foreign President rather than his own leader??

Not to mention voting against the weight of opinion of the entire world....game changer for me on Wyden.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
26. Thanks for letting us know about Wyden
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:17 AM
Aug 2015

I'm an Oregonian and will be writing him often from now until the vote.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Incorrect headline. The failure of the GOP to block the Iran deal boosts the supporters of PEACE.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:21 PM
Aug 2015

And logic.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
23. How do we stop Iran
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 09:44 PM
Aug 2015

From using the $150 billion that will be returned to them when the sanctions are lifted, from funding terror ops? The future politics of this is horrifying. In fact this deal may actually be the catalyst to start war between Israel and Iran...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. The point is to prevent them from developing nukes
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:54 PM
Aug 2015

These are nuclear sanctions, not "stop antagonizing Israel" sanctions.

They have a lot of need to spend that money at home.

Iran and Israel have been in proxy war for years now.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
27. It is a nightmare
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:11 AM
Aug 2015

Effectively giving stimulus to terror nations.... tighten the sanctions if they get a nuke then let Israel deal with it if they get a nuke and use it than effectively they have committed national suicide, NK has nukes we aren't dropping sanctions on them... I just don't get it this has potentially devastating political consequences any terror attack will now be called funded by Obama Iran deal.... I wish there was other ways.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. you seem awfully conversant in bullshit rightwing talking points
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:15 AM
Aug 2015

and ignorant of basic facts:

NK has nukes we aren't dropping sanctions on them

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
30. What about the other nations who are more than ready for this to be over? Going back to the....
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

sanctions table after these long & arduous talks is probably not an option for the nations who have spent the last two years on these negotiations. As has been pointed out repeatedly by the administration, these talks were purely about Iran's nuclear ambitions. Just because these talks didn't include everything on yours & Netanyahu's bucket lists, doesn't mean this isn't a damn good deal.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
31. The deal is terrible by all accounts
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:00 PM
Aug 2015

Even the Presidents own matrix prior to negotiating is not being met with this deal, or so it is said, but I guess it's true we must pass it first in order to see what is really in it..... So much faith to give to a nation that is a lying cheating, terrorist enabling, death to Israel and death to America chanting regime.... I am sure I would have hedged my bets on this, but the President seems to think this is the right balance. History will judge him for it, because it is not going to be stopped.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
29. I'm delighted about this.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 02:08 PM
Aug 2015

But I fervently hope that Reid will "unendorse" Schumer for the position of Dem leader if Schumer sticks to his AIPAC-sanctioned course.

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