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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:17 PM Aug 2015

U.S. pedestrians into Mexico now need passport at Tijuana border crossing

Source: Associated Press

Walking into Mexico at the nation's busiest border crossing with the United States is no longer an uninterrupted stroll for foreigners.

Starting late Wednesday, pedestrians going to Tijuana from San Diego at the San Ysidro crossing must choose between a line for Mexicans who get waved through, and a line for foreigners who must show a passport, fill out a form and -- if staying more than a week -- pay 322 pesos, or roughly $20, for a six-month permit.

... Travelers have long followed similar protocol at Mexican airports, but the new border procedure marks a big change at land crossings that weren't designed to question everyone. Pedestrians and motorists have generally entered Mexico unencumbered along the 1,954-mile border with the United States.

... Previous efforts to question more foreigners entering Mexico met resistance in Tijuana, whose economy partly relies on Americans who visit restaurants, beaches, doctors and dentists. Lines to enter the United States at San Ysidro have exceeded four hours.

Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_28672691/u-s-pedestrians-into-mexico-now-need-passport

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U.S. pedestrians into Mexico now need passport at Tijuana border crossing (Original Post) Newsjock Aug 2015 OP
Is this really new? I crossed the border at Matamoros (across from Brownsville Texas)..... George II Aug 2015 #1
Yes Brother Buzz Aug 2015 #6
Which means it was easier to get into Mexico than it was to Canada... Historic NY Aug 2015 #2
But do you have to fill out a form to get to Canada? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #17
I last went to Tijuana from San Diego in 2011 and a passport was required then Gigabear Aug 2015 #3
I've crossed the border several times on foot at Tijuana aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #4
I lived in San Diego during the 1970s... KansDem Aug 2015 #10
Thank You, Mr. Trump! staggerleem Aug 2015 #5
We used to cross only with a driver's license... Chakaconcarne Aug 2015 #7
DHS is now charging citizens to cross the border via "permits". dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #8
you mean a passport? Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #9
No, I mean the various cards under their "Trusted Traveler Program" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #13
Its for the convenience I guess... Historic NY Aug 2015 #14
Thanks, tRump! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #11
They should start requiring visas too MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #12
FYI: The border crossing in Tecate is another option. It's a nice drive, but Zorra Aug 2015 #15
Mexican officials stopping tourists may be new left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #16
I've gone to Mexico every year since 2009, and never been stopped Zorra Aug 2015 #18
I've gone to Mexico every year since 2009, and never been stopped left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #19
Expect Mexico to charge for a day-permit to off-set the Trump entry fee to build NCjack Aug 2015 #20

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Is this really new? I crossed the border at Matamoros (across from Brownsville Texas).....
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:24 PM
Aug 2015

....a couple of times maybe ten years ago. I had to fill out a form, get a "permit", and pay about $15 at the time.

Maybe so many people crossed at Tijuana they never bothered before.

Brother Buzz

(36,466 posts)
6. Yes
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:48 PM
Aug 2015

Walking through the portal into Tijuana was totally open, and often not even manned. Interesting, I flew in from La Paz, Baja California to Tijuana and had to show papers to leave the airport.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
17. But do you have to fill out a form to get to Canada?
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 02:27 PM
Aug 2015

All I have to do is answer a couple of questions. in addition to the passport or enhanced D.L.

Where are you going? somewhereville.
What are you doing there? dinner.
Are you bringing anything in? beer.
What's the beer for? Dinner.
Welcome to Canada, eh.

No form, no entry fee, just a fee for the bridge (Detroit to Windsor)

 

Gigabear

(58 posts)
3. I last went to Tijuana from San Diego in 2011 and a passport was required then
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:36 PM
Aug 2015

I think the only thing that is new is the fee for those who are staying for more than a week.

*Edited to add the passport was required to reenter the US, not to enter Mexico.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
4. I've crossed the border several times on foot at Tijuana
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:41 PM
Aug 2015

The last time was maybe 15 years ago. I remember seeing what looked like Mexican customs agents in a booth but they didn't detain you and only looked at you.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
10. I lived in San Diego during the 1970s...
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:10 PM
Aug 2015

It wasn't uncommon for me and my friends to suddenly decide to go to Tijuana for a few beers.

"I remember seeing what looked like Mexican customs agents in a booth but they didn't detain you and only looked at you."--There was never a problem.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. DHS is now charging citizens to cross the border via "permits".
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:01 PM
Aug 2015

I read a long web page by DHS that outlined the various ways you could apply for and get "permits" to come and go across both borders.
Fees were high, permits had to be renewed every couple years.
A border tax, in other words.
Plus to get a permit, much like getting one of those "expedited" TSA lines, you had to tell them everything about you.

The net is getting tighter.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
9. you mean a passport?
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:07 PM
Aug 2015

Also they are valid for 10 years. Not exactly a heavy burden. Cost averages out to less than 6 dollars a year.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. No, I mean the various cards under their "Trusted Traveler Program"
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:29 PM
Aug 2015
CBP's Trusted Traveler Programs provide expedited travel for pre-approved, low risk travelers through dedicated lanes and kiosks.

http://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
12. They should start requiring visas too
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015

And raise the price to make it smart. Maybe if these rich repigs had to pay an extra thousand bucks for their all inclusive pampering they would shut their pie holes about a wall.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
15. FYI: The border crossing in Tecate is another option. It's a nice drive, but
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

it's about an hour drive from Chula Vista.

If your destination is Ensenada or points further south, you can bypass the whole Tijuana spiderweb by taking Mexican highway 3 directly from Tecate to Ensenada. Tecate is a charming little city and the drive from Tecate to Ensenada becomes "La Ruta del Vino", loosely "the route through wine country".

I lived in Mexico for 8 years, in Baja, Oaxaca, and Chiapas, and have lived down there on and off since 1985. Cabo San Lucas was still in transition from a fishing village to and international tourist high rise hellhole in 1985.

Baja was wide open back in the day, the personal freedom was comparable to how the western US was in the 1960's. Many of the years I lived down in Mexico I was "undocumented". It's extremely difficult to pull that off these days.

This lockdown, spy on everyone everywhere modern world is a total bummer.

"Your papers, please!"

Too many people, too many rules, too little space.

Sorry, nostalgia rambling...now get off my lawn.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. Mexican officials stopping tourists may be new
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

I've crossed into Mexico from El Paso and San Ysidro numerous times 1970s --> 2001 without being stopped or paying any fees,
using just a driver's license for return into the USA (on foot or in a car).

But Americans on foot or in a car have been required to have a passport to enter/return from Mexico since 2009:

"passport requirements for travelers land crossing borders with Mexico and Canada.
If you are crossing by land, you will need a passport beginning Jan1, 2009"

Traveling by air or sea - requirements began in 2007.

http://mexicolesstraveled.com/passport.htm

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. I've gone to Mexico every year since 2009, and never been stopped
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:44 PM
Aug 2015

going through the border going into Mexico. I never cross into Mexico through the Tijuana border xing.

Returning to the US is another story. I have had my passport checked every time I have entered the US from Mexico since 2001. About one third of the time they send me into secondary. Most of the time they don't even search my vehicle in secondary, they just make me get out of my vehicle and hang out for awhile. I think they just observe my behavior with cameras and can tell I'm not nervous, just bored, and slightly annoyed. I'm not white, or Latina, so I may be getting profiled.

There is a "border zone" in Mexico of 20km to 30km for which you don't need a passport or Tourist Card if you enter by land and stay in the border zone less than 72 hours. (Except for Tijuana, where you need a passport to enter Mexico at the xing now, with this new rule).

As of March 1, 2010, all U.S. citizens – including children -- must present a valid passport, book or card, for travel beyond the “border zone” into the interior of Mexico. Entry by any means, for example by plane or car, is included in this requirement. The “border zone” is generally defined as an area between 20 to 30 kilometers of the border with the U.S., depending on the location. Stays of less than 72 hours within the border zone do not require a visa or tourist card.

http://mexico.usembassy.gov/eng/eacs_sheet.html


Question: Do I need a passport to travel to Mexico?

A passport or other WHTI-compliant travel document is necessary for U.S. and Canadian citizens traveling to Mexico. You may not be asked to present your passport if entering Mexico by land, but you will surely need to present one upon your return to the United States.

http://gomexico.about.com/od/entryrequirements/f/need_passport.htm

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
19. I've gone to Mexico every year since 2009, and never been stopped
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:46 PM
Aug 2015

Not going in, no.
But apparently now, maybe they don't like Trump's border comments.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
20. Expect Mexico to charge for a day-permit to off-set the Trump entry fee to build
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

the fence. Trump is stupid if he thinks Mexican officials are too stupid to counter his game.

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