Labour leadership contest: Party aides fear 'purge' if Jeremy Corbyn is elected
Source: The Independent
Dozens of Labour staff members and Shadow Cabinet aides could be dismissed within hours of Jeremy Corbyn winning the partys leadership, it has emerged.
The Independent understands that large numbers of Labour staff members are on contracts that expire the day after the new leader is elected. This means Mr Corbyn and his new shadow cabinet team will have a completely free hand at choosing who works for the party, with little or no legal obligation to existing staff.
Labour aides, who have worked for the party for the past five years, fear those around the new leader will use the opportunity to purge party HQ of those considered to be on the right, and replace them with people whose views are more in tune with the new leader. Other staff members intend to leave of their own volition and are understood to be already sending out their CVs in anticipation of a Corbyn victory.
It is not a case of having a contract that gives you certain rights. It ends with the leadership election and thats it. Then, unless we get re-employed, were out and there is nothing we can do about it.
Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leadership-contest-party-aids-fear-purge-if-jeremy-corbyn-is-elected-10458320.html
Posted for the Schadenfreude...
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)A lot of these people are the ones who will be actively campaigning to get rid of Corbyn from day 1.
Also, there is the whole matter of whether or not the Labour party is too centrally controlled.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Yet the most hilarious aspect of this fiasco is that the Blairites actually think that they have resonance with the public and those voting in the leadership contest. Both party members and the public disowned Tony Blair and his ilk years ago, and they abandoned his politics then, too. Ed Miliband lost in May because he was seen as too embedded within the Labour establishment and his politics too similar to that that it produces. Every leadership candidate except Corbyn is viewed upon in the same light as Miliband, hence why Jeremy has went from rebellious outsider to leadership favourite. People now want socialism back in the political mainstream.
Labour didnt lose in May because they were too left-wing, they lost because they offered nothing new and refused to oppose the myth that they caused the financial crisis. The same could be said in 2010. The only candidate that is offering something new in this leadership contest is Jeremy Corbyn, and he is - by no coincidence - the only candidate to have inspired people. Blairites ought to take notice, for it is not socialism that the electorate is exhausted with, it is Blairism.
https://medium.com/@curran_98/jeremy-corbyn-started-off-at-100-1-to-win-the-labour-leadership-contest-before-being-only-minutes-11e6b21d5ecd
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)And the result has been continuous decline since Labour's second landslide victory in 2001. Made worse by the control freakery of Labour's Blairite leadership.
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)It also emerged that Liz Kendall urged Yvette Cooper to stand down because Andy Burnham is the only candidate who can win - but Miss Cooper refused.
The claims lay bare the desperation by the Labour hierarchy to try to stop Mr Corbyn from succeeding Ed Miliband as leader in less than four weeks time.
Warpy
(111,282 posts)Getting rid of Blair's people sounds like a good idea to me, they can always go back to the Tories. If they go off in a huff, you won't have to bring out the crowbars and dynamite.
Now if we could only do a similar thing here in the US.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)even worse than the Blairites.
However, I think all this talk of 'purges' is baseless paranoia. If Corbyn gets the leadership, and wishes to stay more than a few months, he will have to negotiate with all wings of the party, and and give a few jobs all round.
Despite the media stereotype that everyone on the left is like Stalin, Corbyn is as far as I can gather a nice, not particularly tough, individual who doesn't really want power all that much. My worries about him are quite the opposite of the stereotype - that he might not be able to control party infighting and rebellions sufficiently; not that he'd go around purging everyone.
Warpy
(111,282 posts)but I'm reading things from across an ocean and 2/3 of a continent, so what do I know?
I do think a few of them will go off in a huff and rejoin the Tories. Most will stay, grumbling about the good old days when they were on top. I hope Corbyn is the peacemaker you say he is, or that he's got adequate staff to do it for him if he's too much of a Milquetoast.
I hope Corbyn wins!
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)...a lot of people (unsurprisingly Corbyn supporters) are having their votes for the Labour leadership rejected by Labour and are going onto social media to complain about the letters they've received from Labour telling them that We have reasons to believe you do not support the aims and values of the Labour party.
If one of the mainstream candidates does win, there will be major questions about the way this vote has been handled by Labour. And there are many complaints about the system used to elect Labour leaders as it is anyway.
Which leaves Labour looking not only divided, but incompetent.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)Canvassed (and voted) for his local Labour candidate in May, but also supported Caroline Lucas in the neighbouring constituency, so they rejected him: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/08/13/mark-steel-labour-jeremy-corbyn_n_7982648.html . He obviously does support Labour when they have the best candidate for him, and so that's the kind of elector they need to attract.
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)Even some full members who were full members before the general election have had their Labour leadership votes rejected after they have voted, receiving letters and e-mails stating that It has come to our attention that you don't support the values of the Labour Party. All the people complaining about being purged are vocal Corbyn supporters as it happens.
Which makes a leadership contest that's already descended into open civil war and farce now look incredibly murky. I'm very glad that I haven't made any attempt to sign up as a registered supporter. Even though I don't shout about who I vote for from the treetops and have signed a Labour candidates nomination papers in the past, I very much doubt I'd be accepted.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)This is looking like a disaster. If you want to show yourselves unfit to be a government, a good way to start is showing yourselves unable to run an internal election. Falkirk looked bad enough, but this is, as you say, a farce.
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)...that Ed Milibands reforms, made in reaction to what happened in Falkirk have been an unmitigated disaster.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/LabourPurge?src=hash
But then again I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised, given how closed the local Labour club where I live is to outsiders.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)... of Trotsky getting whacked with an ice axe."
Dark humour, but brilliant.
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)Supporters who joined the party in recent months - as £3 affiliates or fully fledged members - have been written to by the party telling them they will not be allowed to vote in September's election.
The Labour Party has said they have a robust system to prevent "fraudulent or malicious applications" and all applications to join the Labour Party are verified those who are identified as being candidates, members or supporters of another political party will be denied a vote.
Furious would-be voters, including the Have I Got News For You writer Peter Sinclair, have taken to Twitter to express their fury. The hashtag #LabourPurge was trending on Twitter on Thursday morning.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It's not as if whoever they opposed being selected as the Labour candidate was inherently superior to whomever they supported.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)With claims and counterclaims about what was allowed. People ended up resigning; the candidate that the local Unite members seems to prefer withdrew. They had one set of rules for how to choose a candidate, and when one section thought it was going against them, had them overruled. But that was just in one constituency; this is nationwide.
candelista
(1,986 posts)...if they think you're going to vote the wrong way? That's a great little system--for the leadership. Someone should mention this idea to the DNC.
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)Ostensibly it's to weed out people from rival parties who've paid the £3 fee to vote in the contest. A number of Tories have attempted to join up and vote for Corbyn as they think he's totally unelectable and will hand the Tories a huge landslide victory.
But the purge has clearly gone much further than that, and looks eerily like an attempt to stack the ballot against Corbyn by the ruling Blairite faction, with a good dose of petty vindictiveness for good measure.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/labour-purging-supporters-jeremy-corbyn
The spirit of the rule is being twisted for the sake of political power. Can this possibly work?
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)It's difficult now to argue against the assertion that Labour is incompetent. Which is a total disaster as we do need a stronger Labour party and a much stronger opposition to the Tories.
Never mind the whole debate about whether or not Labour needs to move left or right. That matters far less in terms of electability then Labours current issues with infighting and cocking things up.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)of course it was Cegelis, Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich, Buono, Lutrin, and now Sykes, Weiland, Davis, Grimes that were eased out by deck-stacking and other party-lever shenanigans
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Not having your contract renewed is not the same thing as being lined up and shot, for God's sakes.
There's a bitter irony here as well:
Most of these people cheered Tony Blair on when he pissed on the unions and pushed for "labour market flexibility" i.e., making it easy for employers to get rid of people without cause-the ultimate betrayal of Labour's historic roleas thhe defender of the rights of working people). Yet they are now acting as if they, and they alone, are owed jobs for life.
Elitist arrogance at its worst.
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)Nikki Hollis, who joined the party last month, said: I got a call from Labour HQ asking if Id ever been to a farmers market and, if so, did I buy a particular grain that is grown in the Andes.
I said no I hadnt as Im on a low income and farmers markets are designed to take advantage of simpering, middle class fucknuts with more money than sense. That did not go down well.
A senior Labour source said: Were just trying to take our party back from working class people and their big, greasy hands.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)are having a field day with the Blairites...... funny stuff
T_i_B
(14,740 posts)There are very real concerns that genuine Labour supporters have infiltrated the partys membership, said Liz Kendall earlier. We spent the best part of the last twenty years trying to get rid of these ghastly people with their beards, dungarees and Billy Bragg albums and replace them with pleasant looking young people in nice Next suits, and now theyre back.
Liz Kendall would like to see the vetting process for new Labour party members changed.
I think we should be asking all new members if they would vote for Jeremy Corbyn. If they answer yes then I think its clear that theyre Labour supporters and therefore not the sort of people we want in the modern Labour party.