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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:30 PM Aug 2015

Colorado Court Rules Against Baker Who Refused to Serve Same-Sex Couples

Source: New York Times

A state appeals court in Colorado ruled Thursday that a baker could not cite religious beliefs in refusing to make wedding cakes for same-sex couples.

The decision is the latest in a series of similar rulings across the country that have been cheered by civil rights groups but attacked by conservative Christians as assaults on religious liberty.

Whether photographers, florists, bakers and other vendors who are Christians should have a right to refuse services for same-sex marriages has emerged as a major cultural and legal battle, one that has intensified since the Supreme Court decision in June establishing same-sex marriage as a constitutional right.


In the Colorado case, “the court squarely said that this is discrimination based on sexual orientation and it’s not to be tolerated, even if it’s motivated by faith,” said Louise Melling, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, which represented the gay couple. “Religious liberty gives you the right to your beliefs but not the right to harm others.”

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/us/colorado-court-rules-against-baker-who-refused-to-serve-same-sex-couples.html?_r=0

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Colorado Court Rules Against Baker Who Refused to Serve Same-Sex Couples (Original Post) jpak Aug 2015 OP
Good-This idiot does not have the right to discriminate Gothmog Aug 2015 #1
Colorado Court Rules "Let Them Eat Cake!" nt Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #2
Here come the false analogies. HassleCat Aug 2015 #3
If a Jewish deli sulphurdunn Aug 2015 #14
Remember when people railed about "mixed marriage"? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #4
that opens up some long forgotten memories rurallib Aug 2015 #7
I knew someone who's mother disapproved of his girl because she wasn't Greek. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #8
Me too. But at least the Catholics and Protestants one was mutual to both sides. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #16
I attended a wedding once where the grandmother decided to have a "spell".... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #19
Guess what folks? Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2015 #5
If some folks sulphurdunn Aug 2015 #15
Go Canada OnlinePoker Aug 2015 #20
Good! nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #6
Good, though I bet that there will be an appeal. sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #9
One's personal biases should never affect one's profession or vocation cosmicone Aug 2015 #10
Good. I'm tired of these fuckers equating their business with their Faith. Volaris Aug 2015 #11
The Claim of Religious Liberty RancidCrabtree Aug 2015 #12
They may be required to make the cake but would one really Purveyor Aug 2015 #13
great news. riversedge Aug 2015 #17
Excellent! Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #18
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
3. Here come the false analogies.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:40 PM
Aug 2015

"They'll force Jewish delis to serve bacon." "They'll force my church to perform gay weddings." No, they will not. Any more than they will force Republicans to think.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
14. If a Jewish deli
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:03 PM
Aug 2015

served bacon to Gentiles but refused to serve it to Jews, there would be a problem. If churches charged a fee for weddings on tax exempt property and excluded gays, there would be a problem. If Republicans could think, there would be no problem.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. Remember when people railed about "mixed marriage"?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:18 PM
Aug 2015

I'm old enough to remember when that included Catholic and Protestant.

rurallib

(62,431 posts)
7. that opens up some long forgotten memories
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:37 PM
Aug 2015

I had one of those and both sets of parents worked on us until we finally split. Then they couldn't understand why.

didn't mean a dig at you at all. I had pretty much forgotten all about the constant picking etc.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
16. Me too. But at least the Catholics and Protestants one was mutual to both sides.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:37 PM
Aug 2015

Well I'm not sure, probably not all Protestant sects but many.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. I attended a wedding once where the grandmother decided to have a "spell"....
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:08 PM
Aug 2015

It was a white bride and a Latino groom.

My talking "paramedic" caused mass panic that her faking it would be exposed.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
5. Guess what folks?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:34 PM
Aug 2015

The money in a gay person's hand is green and spends just as well as the money in a straight person's hand.
I know this for a fact.


 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
15. If some folks
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:13 PM
Aug 2015

had their way, gay people would be required to use rainbow colored money, and it would be discounted.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
9. Good, though I bet that there will be an appeal.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:54 PM
Aug 2015

As I see it if you are open to the public as a store,
you cannot choose customers, but you can choose
what you want to sell.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
10. One's personal biases should never affect one's profession or vocation
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:02 PM
Aug 2015

I despise terrorists ... but if one came in my ER wounded or sick, I'd do everything possible to save the mofo's life and make him/her comfortable. The person's terrorism is for other people so empowered to deal with - not my job.

Volaris

(10,273 posts)
11. Good. I'm tired of these fuckers equating their business with their Faith.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

If its a for-profit business, then you'll take the profit from whoever walks through the door.
If there are things more IMPORTANT than profit (not likely if your a Republican) then every thin dime u make had better be given away to charity, because you're a Not For Profit Organization.
If you think you should be able to have your cake and it too, then the rest of us can TAX YOUR CHURCH.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN INFRIGEMTNT OF YOUR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY, YOU FUCKHEADS!!!

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
13. They may be required to make the cake but would one really
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:40 PM
Aug 2015

want to eat it? I wouldn't for the same reason I never send anything back at a restaurant.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
18. Excellent!
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:52 PM
Aug 2015

Although I would be ok with an exemption for a business as long as they were required to post some sort of "I am a bigot who refuses to serve xxx" sign up- so I know where to never spend my money.

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