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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:21 AM Aug 2015

UPDATED: Fetal Tissue Research Critic Ben Carson Conducted Fetal Tissue Research

Last edited Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: TPM

Before GOP 2016er Ben Carson was slamming fetal tissue research, the neurosurgeon was conducting studies on fetal tissues himself.

According to a blog post by OB/GYN Jen Gunter that was highlighted by Buzzfeed, Carson participated in a 1992 study that relied on "two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Gunter, also a well known science writer, posted a picture of the study bearing Carson's name on her blog.

After an anti-abortion group began releasing last month "sting" videos claiming to show that Planned Parenthood was profiting off the sale of fetal tissues to researchers, Carson came out against the practice.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-fetal-tissue-research



Ben Carson’s outrageous Planned Parenthood hypocrisy — has performed research on aborted fetal brain tissue

Carson told Fox News that fetuses were human at 17 weeks -- the same age as those he performed research on

SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN


Not even a full day after GOP presidential hopeful Ben Carson told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that the abortion industrial complex known as Planned Parenthood was designed to collect fetal tissue and control the black population, BuzzFeed’s Virginia Hughes reports that Carson and his colleagues at Johns Hopkins actually used fetal tissue in a 1992 study about the development of the brain’s ventricles.

As Dr. Jen Gunter noted on her blog, Carson has repeatedly claimed that there’s no research that “can’t be done without fetal tissue,” and that the promise of fetal tissue research has been exaggerated, while the results have “very much under-delivered.”

On “The Kelly File” last month, Carson spoke of the humanity of fetuses at 17 weeks, saying “you’ve got a nice little nose and little fingers and hands and the heart’s beating. It can respond to environmental stimulus. How can you believe that that’s just an irrelevant mass of cells? That’s what they want you to believe, when in fact it is a human being.”

That he specified the 17th week of gestation in his conversation with Kelly is significant, given that in his 1992 study — Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation — the brain and nasal cavity tissues were “obtained from two fetuses aborted at the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

As Dr. Gunter pointed out, this fact might be inconvenient for Ben Carson the fringe Republican presidential candidate, but it was de rigueur for Ben Carson the celebrated Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon.

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http://www.salon.com/2015/08/13/gop_presidential_candidate_ben_carson_performed_research_on_aborted_fetal_brain_tissue/
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UPDATED: Fetal Tissue Research Critic Ben Carson Conducted Fetal Tissue Research (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2015 OP
He was for it then against it, he evolved his position, didn't know it - somethings got to stick. marble falls Aug 2015 #1
Another lying republican hypocrite. Imagine that. tabasco Aug 2015 #2
You don't say shenmue Aug 2015 #13
So stealing that ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #17
Well, he did take the... trusty elf Aug 2015 #3
Hyp, Hyp, Hooray!! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #5
There is no 'practice' as the whole story is a complete lie. blackspade Aug 2015 #4
Control freaks like the right wing follow the "do as I say, Jamastiene Aug 2015 #6
Well, it appears to work. As long as the followers won't use that lump at the top of the brainstem. erronis Aug 2015 #11
Then he should be brought up on murder charges - according to Ben Carson! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #7
Hmm, who wouldda thunk? City Lights Aug 2015 #8
Little doubt that he'll say our knowledge of fetal development has evolved since '92 JudyM Aug 2015 #9
They always do what they profess to hate. It's the republican way. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #10
Oh but he repented. Old Union Guy Aug 2015 #12
Don't be so short-sighted angrychair Aug 2015 #14
doesn't really matter, though. He doesn't have a shot in hell of the GOP nomination Roland99 Aug 2015 #15
I feel like posting this on Facebook ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #16
KnR Hekate Aug 2015 #18
Pukes and Baggers will ignore this... SoapBox Aug 2015 #19
Duh!!! lark Aug 2015 #20
And... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #21
This like that the rotting garbage calling the watery shit "smelly." Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #22
The hypocrisy of the GOP is staggering. nt valerief Aug 2015 #23

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
4. There is no 'practice' as the whole story is a complete lie.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:37 AM
Aug 2015

There is no 'profit' or 'sale' of fetuses.

The M$M reporting on this has been a fucking joke.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
6. Control freaks like the right wing follow the "do as I say,
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:50 AM
Aug 2015

not as I do" rule that lets them do whatever they want while telling everyone else not to do the same thing.

erronis

(15,306 posts)
11. Well, it appears to work. As long as the followers won't use that lump at the top of the brainstem.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
7. Then he should be brought up on murder charges - according to Ben Carson!
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:01 AM
Aug 2015

Here is what he did in 1992:

"Carson participated in a 1992 study that relied on "two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”


And here is what he said in July, 2015:

“At 17 weeks, you’ve got a nice little nose and little fingers and hands and the heart’s beating It can respond to environmental stimulus," Carson said on Fox News, as Buzzfeed noted. "How can you believe that that’s just an irrelevant mass of cells? That’s what they want you to believe, when in fact it is a human being."


So in his own words, he complicit in the murder of a human being in 1992.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
9. Little doubt that he'll say our knowledge of fetal development has evolved since '92
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:20 AM
Aug 2015

and that he'd never do that now.

angrychair

(8,717 posts)
14. Don't be so short-sighted
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:20 PM
Aug 2015

As a doctor, in general, and his specific specialization, he has directly benefited from this type of research field.

If we are going to start splitting hairs on what is and is not ethical medical research than we just as well go back to blood-letting and trepanning.
Medical research has had to do everything from steal bodies from morgues to inject people with diseases, on purpose, to help find cures.
Yes, there are limits, like when Quakers Oats and MIT did a study that involved giving radation-spiked oatmeal to handicap and mentally ill children: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1997-12-31/news/1997365029_1_quaker-oats-mit-researchers

Medical research can be an ugly thing, like sausage, don't ask unless you really want to know the answer.

ismnotwasm

(41,995 posts)
16. I feel like posting this on Facebook
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:36 PM
Aug 2015

I try to stay mostly out of politics in Facebook, but this needs to go far and wide. Fucked up hypocrite.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
19. Pukes and Baggers will ignore this...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:42 PM
Aug 2015

Because, well, they are Pukes and Baggers, plus HYPOCRISY is their middle name.

lark

(23,123 posts)
20. Duh!!!
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:58 PM
Aug 2015

Come on folks, we know that every time Repugs open their mouths, lies come out. it's just what they always do. No surprise at all. Hypocrites r US should be their dba.

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