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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:22 PM Aug 2015

In Nevada, Jeb Bush rally interrupted by Black Lives Matter demonstrators

Source: Los Angeles Times

NORTH LAS VEGAS -- A Jeb Bush town hall Wednesday ended on a testy note, as Black Lives Matter protesters clashed with the presidential candidates' supporters after he faced a series of challenging questions.

Bush, responding to a woman's query about the disproportionate number of minorities killed by police and their treatment in the criminal justice system, said there was no question that racism still existed in the United States and that leaders needed to engage in communities that felt disenfranchised. He then turned to his education record as Florida's governor, raising achievement scores among minority youth.

“I have a record of empowering people in communities that” were told “they had no chance,” Bush said, ending the town hall. He did not deliver a closing statement, as he typically does, and quickly made his way to an exit, greeting supporters along the way.

Behind him, a few dozen protesters raised their fists and began chanting “Black Lives Matter!” A handful of Bush supporters turned toward them and chanted “All Lives Matter!” and “White Lives Matter!” Two women -- a protester and a Bush supporter -- stood a few feet from the candidate with their middle fingers extended in each other's faces.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-08122015-htmlstory.html

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In Nevada, Jeb Bush rally interrupted by Black Lives Matter demonstrators (Original Post) Newsjock Aug 2015 OP
Cannot stand Jeb but.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #1
I was thinking the same thing..... secondwind Aug 2015 #2
Why this has and is getting OLD... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #5
It needs to start with slavery, the Civil War (inluding the Dixie rag), Separate but Equal.... marble falls Aug 2015 #38
Some folks said the same thing about the Selma protestors and MLK once ago, didn't they? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #11
Yes, indeedy. If these troublesome young protesters would just wait in line, MADem Aug 2015 #15
It is like black folk have to ask permission to protest where white folk happen to be. And it is Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #16
"How DARE you!! Get OFF!! GET OFF!!! Shut UP!!!! What NERVE~!!!!" MADem Aug 2015 #19
just to clarify restorefreedom Aug 2015 #40
I get what you are saying....he's calling for revolution! MADem Aug 2015 #44
hey i think there might be an op on the occupy ltr restorefreedom Aug 2015 #45
No what is "Funny Stuff" FRED LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #17
Honestly, I have zero care who you are, but your posts really do highlight why we need BLK. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #41
Yes it is. 840high Aug 2015 #20
Unbelievable! WTH would you be against protesting Republicans? brush Aug 2015 #39
hmmm. From a POC in the article: uhnope Aug 2015 #3
Welcome to Bernie's World, Jebbie. SoapBox Aug 2015 #4
I think that the protesters may have gotten off lucky. They could have gotten torn to pieces by jwirr Aug 2015 #6
bwahhhhhahhh- ruffburr Aug 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #8
No, not at all. Any violence by the racists will be met with peace. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #13
Sure it will, as you can tell I lack the faith you obviously have in humans to behave as well AuntPatsy Aug 2015 #22
And I hope whatever hope you have is a little more optimistic and fact based. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #43
A few tweets.. riversedge Aug 2015 #9
This is what heroes look like, not remaining silent in the face of of xenophobia and hate and lies. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #14
We should also point out that they not all black... giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #51
Hillary's campaign responded to Jeb and voting rights... riversedge Aug 2015 #10
BLM and Clinton protested Jeb's pandering to Iowa and NH GOP voter-idiots...it is a good thing. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #12
Did they get onstage and start screaming right in front of Jeb? glinda Aug 2015 #21
Jeb is paying big $$$ for a security detail BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #24
Did not know that. Do not believe Bernie had any in Seattle nor any provided there possibly... glinda Aug 2015 #48
I hate to say but if Bernie is going to run as a "real" candidate BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #49
The "protest candidate" thing is not from his campaign but from opponents attempting to demean him. glinda Aug 2015 #50
Once a candidate is within 120 days of the general election BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #52
Funny stuff..still no idea what BLM want? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #42
Mmmmmmm.... alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #18
WTF is with the poor Jeb style comments? joshcryer Aug 2015 #23
I know! Chemisse Aug 2015 #26
I know, right? joshcryer Aug 2015 #29
Amazing, isn't it? mcar Aug 2015 #36
A common quote is "well behaved women rarely make history." DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #25
They might not make history (which, after all, is typically journalism writ big, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #27
let this protest offer a model for future protests by BLM and others magical thyme Aug 2015 #28
They might have been aiming at a different audience. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #31
+ 1 nt riderinthestorm Aug 2015 #35
Happy to see it has branched out dembotoz Aug 2015 #32
Well, that's more like it, BLM. DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #33
Exactly^^^ demwing Aug 2015 #34
I've been all over the place fredamae Aug 2015 #37
Subverting democracy by shouting down your opposition... This won't end well Taitertots Aug 2015 #46
I agree. I hope this doesn't become a "thing". Throd Aug 2015 #47

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
5. Why this has and is getting OLD...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:35 PM
Aug 2015

Shades of Brown People (Except of a Very Few Actual Very Dark Brown) Lives have matter since we're taken in chains and by force from the Motherland of Africa, stripped of our heritage, threw on boats, made to lay in human waste, tossed off the boat if we're sick or died in the sea and sold like animals into slavery.

Let's start with that! Until we are starting with this historical fact and move forward to the violence onto our community by ALL PEOPLE (Caucasian and Otherwise) including Shades of Brown People on other Shades of Brown People sadly.....this 15 minutes of attention seeking interrupting BS is NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM!

marble falls

(57,124 posts)
38. It needs to start with slavery, the Civil War (inluding the Dixie rag), Separate but Equal....
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:16 AM
Aug 2015

Segregation of the Armed Forces, night riders, the KKK, the burning out of entire black communities all over the country in the '20s, .........

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. Some folks said the same thing about the Selma protestors and MLK once ago, didn't they?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:25 AM
Aug 2015

Growing tired of protests by liberal black protestors...all two to date...that is funny stuff.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. Yes, indeedy. If these troublesome young protesters would just wait in line,
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:32 AM
Aug 2015

why, the good people in charge will get to them....eventually.

Didn't Bernie Sanders call for a revolution? Why are people complaining when these young people fire up a few demands for one?

smh!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. It is like black folk have to ask permission to protest where white folk happen to be. And it is
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:33 AM
Aug 2015

shocking to find out permission is not needed.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. "How DARE you!! Get OFF!! GET OFF!!! Shut UP!!!! What NERVE~!!!!"
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:49 AM
Aug 2015


I have to admit, I find the reactions to these protesters a bit funny--the absolute OUTRAGE that someone would interrupt a favorite, like they're farting before the king!

Maybe now people will start to realize that #BLM really DON'T give a hoot about electoral politics--they just want the issues at the forefront of the national debate, they want the issues included in political platforms, and they're going to keep calling attention to the dead kids being murdered by law enforcement and yay-hoos with guns and attitudes until the conversation comes around to these concerns. If they want them to "GET OFF!" and "SHUT UP!!!" they'd do well to give them what they want--a national conversation and concrete plans of action.

Is there video of this event? I'd love to see it...!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
40. just to clarify
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:47 AM
Aug 2015

you did 't say this, but some might. bernie was not one of the ones who complained about the protest, even at his own event. he continued to highlight his position on racial and economic equality.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
17. No what is "Funny Stuff" FRED
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:37 AM
Aug 2015

Is you Trolling each post I make. Except it isn't. The facts are REAL and you are not worth the time.

brush

(53,794 posts)
39. Unbelievable! WTH would you be against protesting Republicans?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:35 AM
Aug 2015

One of the big complaints about the Sanders protests was that they should have been protesting against the Republicans.

Well now they are and it's getting old to you?

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
3. hmmm. From a POC in the article:
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:29 PM
Aug 2015
“We may have our gripes but there are other ways to deal with them,” he said. “I'm not a fan of the president, but he is the president, I would never do to him what these folks did to Jeb. There are better ways to affect change then yell at a town hall.”

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. I think that the protesters may have gotten off lucky. They could have gotten torn to pieces by
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:41 PM
Aug 2015

a R crowd. This crowd probably had some real white supremacists in it.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
7. bwahhhhhahhh-
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:44 PM
Aug 2015

I can't stop laughing , Jeb exists stage right two pissed off women flipping each other off, White Republicans crying White lives matter, Really? And some people have the nerve to say Bernie didn't handle this situation well? Really? Seems to me that Bernie's actions and progressive people's understanding of the reasons for BLM actions diffused the situation to some degree, Above by far the Jeb and friends kerffuflle. Lmao

Response to Newsjock (Original post)

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
22. Sure it will, as you can tell I lack the faith you obviously have in humans to behave as well
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 01:12 AM
Aug 2015

human....

But honestly I hope I'm wrong and your faith in this peaceful outcome is not misplaced....

riversedge

(70,256 posts)
9. A few tweets..
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:03 AM
Aug 2015



Seema MehtaVerified account
?@LATSeema

Competing chants of "Black Lives Matter!" and a few "White Lives Matter" and "All Lives Matter"


........................

LasVegasSun ?@LasVegasSun 50m50 minutes ago

In North Las Vegas, Jeb Bush challenged by Black Lives Matter activists http://bit.ly/1IIGGNU

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. This is what heroes look like, not remaining silent in the face of of xenophobia and hate and lies.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:31 AM
Aug 2015

No more political business as usual.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
51. We should also point out that they not all black...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

Psst you want to know why? Bc, the BLM movement encompasses everyone with brown skin. If you ain’t white you might as well be black.

riversedge

(70,256 posts)
10. Hillary's campaign responded to Jeb and voting rights...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:07 AM
Aug 2015


http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/aug/12/north-las-vegas-jeb-bush-challenged-black-lives-ma/

....Bush's appearance at Pearson Community Center in North Las Vegas, where he addressed a crowd of about 150 people, didn't go unnoticed by Clinton's campaign, which sent out a statement criticizing Bush for curtailing early voting rights in Florida.

"It is ironic that Jeb Bush chose to host a town hall at an early vote polling place as he shut down similar locations in Florida," the statement said. "As governor, Jeb Bush signed into law legislation limiting early voting hours and eliminating sites like Pearson as early vote sites because they did not meet overly restrictive location requirements."

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. BLM and Clinton protested Jeb's pandering to Iowa and NH GOP voter-idiots...it is a good thing.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

And if BLM field operatives are co-ordinating against the GOP, the true enemy of us all, after their vigorous and productive private meeting, that also is a good thing.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
21. Did they get onstage and start screaming right in front of Jeb?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:57 AM
Aug 2015

Just wondering.Or were they off of the stage altogether?

BumRushDaShow

(129,179 posts)
49. I hate to say but if Bernie is going to run as a "real" candidate
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:21 PM
Aug 2015

as opposed to a "protest candidate" attempting to get the voice of the left into the national narrative, then he is going to have to hitch up his pants and get some (sad to say) "professionals" in there. He still has some time but time is marching on and the debates will be coming up in another couple months.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
50. The "protest candidate" thing is not from his campaign but from opponents attempting to demean him.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:29 PM
Aug 2015

I do agree he needs to figure out how to get some Security detail though as he is a "real" candidate.

BumRushDaShow

(129,179 posts)
52. Once a candidate is within 120 days of the general election
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:48 PM
Aug 2015

I believe they will automatically get Secret Service protection (if they request it).

mcar

(42,337 posts)
36. Amazing, isn't it?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:58 AM
Aug 2015

Now Jeb and his supporters' feelings are more important than BLM. This after many on this board complained that BLM wasn't protesting Republican candidates.

Now they are and it's "how rude!" Sometimes I think the world has started spinning in reverse.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
25. A common quote is "well behaved women rarely make history."
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:40 AM
Aug 2015

It could also be said that well behaved people of all sorts do not either, because those people can be safely ignored, and the forces in power know it.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
30. They might not make history (which, after all, is typically journalism writ big,
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:09 AM
Aug 2015

with 'if it bleeds it leads' talking about revolutions, assassinations, wars) but they do actually create change. The world is full of people who have made enormous changes peacefully and quietly, disrupting the status quo while not even being noticed by those in ''power".

Response to Newsjock (Original post)

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
28. let this protest offer a model for future protests by BLM and others
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:55 AM
Aug 2015

They allowed Bush to speak, versus grabbing the microphone and shutting down the event.
They chanted "Black Lives Matter," versus screaming "You're a White Supremacist"
They protested somebody whose policies need to be stopped and reversed.
They got their message across in a way that the audience could potentially be open to.



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
31. They might have been aiming at a different audience.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:13 AM
Aug 2015

It was suggested to me that the actual audience for the Seattle protest was not the same audience that was AT the Seattle event, that the target audience for the performance in Seattle was folks out on social media who would enjoy seeing the 'liberal crowd' being called white supremacists. Which casts that protest in a different light, since the effectiveness would not be judged by how the audience present responded, but by how the online audience reacted. At the Bush protest, the intended audience might actually have been the audience present.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
32. Happy to see it has branched out
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:20 AM
Aug 2015

Generally supportive but the Bernie and O'Malley protests gave me pause
More supportive again

DinahMoeHum

(21,797 posts)
33. Well, that's more like it, BLM.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:26 AM
Aug 2015

Get in EVERY FUCKING CANDIDATE'S face and rant, OK? That's all I want.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
34. Exactly^^^
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:39 AM
Aug 2015

Let's encourage BLM protestors to engage all candidates (and double up on the Republicans!)

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
37. I've been all over the place
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:08 AM
Aug 2015

in thinking about this movement.
I have been shocked. I have "heard" the urgency in the protesters voices. I have been humbled by what I Did not know was-nay; Is happening. I am learning. I was indignant over the way the protesters treated Bernie, O'Malley et al.
I have listened to others criticisms and have voiced my own.
I was wrong.
In my opinion:
Tell me how anyone, but especially Black Lives....is Supposed to get Anyone to LISTEN when an entire race(s) of People have been Brutalized, Oppressed and all that Ignored, told to wait-we care..but not Now, when the laws rules and policies of a Nation are designed to create division, poverty and constant crises? What the hell right do WE have to criticize when I'd be willing to bet if the Shoe was on the Other foot (white privilege) we would likely do the Same thing?
Democracy IS Noisy. It can and Must be Disruptive at times when ALL else is Failed. When people are made uncomfortable...I know I Listen.
Sometimes we, ourselves are oblivious to all that going on all around us.
Do I like it? It doesn't Matter. This isn't about My likes/dislikes. This is a response to Hundreds of Years of Systemic, Legalized Murder, Torture and Oppression of Our Fellow Americans. Our friends. Our families. I am deeply troubled it Had to come to this..over and over and over again throughout our history. Because it is a signal, we Never learn from our own terrible errors.
It's time we grow up. Our help is needed. Can we please respond with understanding and less judgment?

There is a solution. We all work together. Together we Stand because Black. Lives. Matter. As much as yours and mine.
I support this movement as contentious as it is.

Imo-We must Stop shaking our heads, stop being so damned judgmental and grab a sign, don a t-shirt, pick up the phone, get involved in your town/city government..make sure policies, laws, rules treat all equally. Work toward police and justice reform from the bottom up. Become a part of the solution and Recognize when we are being Intentionally Divided for Political gain. Remember always: Many Hands Make a Light Load.
Nicole Sandler replayed this yesterday on Radio Or Not:...Rev. Dr. William Barber addressing Our Moral Crises-circa 2009 says it like it Is. Please listen to the Whole speech:
http://bluenationreview.com/americas-moral-crisis-rev-dr-william-barbers-epic-speech-aft-convention/

#BlackLivesMatter
#WeStandTogether

Thank you for being patient as I evolve. I'm trying hard to learn and it's a hard lesson when one begins to "feel the knowing" of the horrors with-in our Own country. But, all that doesn't matter and is nothing compared to Living this everyday with no relief in sight. How Loud will WE force them to get Before WE Listen?
My words this morning may reflect I have a good way to go yet-they may be a measurement of the distance I have to go in learning and understanding. I'm trying. I am working hard.
#RiseUp

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
46. Subverting democracy by shouting down your opposition... This won't end well
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:18 PM
Aug 2015

When you accept subversion of democracy/free speech as a valid political tactic, then you're going to have to deal with other people doing it back to you.

Are they going to complain when Jeb's supporters storm their meetings and shout down their leaders? Is that a valid "protest" tactic now?

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